I wouldn't be interested in Forsling. If his career progression goes very well he could one day end up being similar to Larsen. I'd prefer a D prospect with decent size and a first or second round pick for the pair
- CanuckDon

There continues to be a love affair with prospects that Vancouver lets go, which is odd because there hasnt been many that really panned out elsewhere. Grabner, Weise, McCabe are the only names that come to mind for me most recently (though I could be missing some, someone will name them for me). But I am on board with not getting Forsling back, I havent missed him, his progression hasnt been lights out and I would rather Subban be our smallish offensive PP guy of the future

We have Subban too as an undersized dman with potential...

Would like a d prospect that is closer to NHL ready or NHL ready... but starting not to feel too choosy.
- hillbillydeluxe

Exactly. We have two smallish skilled D men coming up with Larsen and Subban. Time for some big guys that have an all around game.

The Hamhuis and Vrbata is cycling through the blackhawks thread now and most of them are really interested and would love to make that deal. The consensus being TT + for Vrbata and Hamhuis. What do you all think about that? I would be extremly happy with a return starting with TT and a Defenseman prospect?
- Codes1087

They seemed interested in Hamhuis but less interested in Vrbata. How would they make the cap work if they are taking on$9M plus?

The Hamhuis and Vrbata is cycling through the blackhawks thread now and most of them are really interested and would love to make that deal. The consensus being TT + for Vrbata and Hamhuis. What do you all think about that? I would be extremly happy with a return starting with TT and a Defenseman prospect?
- Codes1087

Must be on the wrong Blackhawks thread.

This move sounds like a last resort, type of deal.

And in no way is TT being moved for rental, let alone TT+.

Something along the lines of a mid-level prospect and a mid/late round pick is what would be sent.

There continues to be a love affair with prospects that Vancouver lets go, which is odd because there hasnt been many that really panned out elsewhere. Grabner, Weise, McCabe are the only names that come to mind for me most recently (though I could be missing some, someone will name them for me). But I am on board with not getting Forsling back, I havent missed him, his progression hasnt been lights out and I would rather Subban be our smallish offensive PP guy of the future
- WhiteLie

Never get the urge to knock boots with an old gf?

They seemed interested in Hamhuis but less interested in Vrbata. How would they make the cap work if they are taking on$9M plus?
- Canada Cup

Bickell would be heading your way

Per non-VAN exec: Sense is Hamhuis aware of situation. VAN to approach when/if something's close for blessing. Interest from 3-4 teams high

— David Pagnotta (@TheFourthPeriod) February 25, 2016

There continues to be a love affair with prospects that Vancouver lets go, which is odd because there hasnt been many that really panned out elsewhere. Grabner, Weise, McCabe are the only names that come to mind for me most recently (though I could be missing some, someone will name them for me). But I am on board with not getting Forsling back, I havent missed him, his progression hasnt been lights out and I would rather Subban be our smallish offensive PP guy of the future
- WhiteLie

I find it fascinating. The same posters that constantly call Benning a useless idiot are in love with his draft picks. If he is willing to immediately dump Forsling he obviously wasn't high on him. Who else likely knows more about the player than the team that followed him overseas and drafted him? He had a great junior tournament and they leveraged that to trade for a more ready prospect. Clearly the prospect didn't workout but it was a sound strategy

Bickell would be heading your way
- TommyHawk

With????

Must be on the wrong Blackhawks thread.

This move sounds like a last resort, type of deal.

And in no way is TT being moved for rental, let alone TT+.

Something along the lines of a mid-level prospect and a mid/late round pick is what would be sent.
- TommyHawk

I had seen 2 or 3 different posts regarding TT + for a package of Vrbata and Hamhuis. I am not thinking that it was going to happen, but I certainly didn't propose TT in trade talks. I would agree that generally Hamhuis was more sought after in your thread but Vrbata was tossed arounda s well as a depth guy for playoffs. Either way, I don't know if Benning does anything if it involves Bickell as he is trying to clear a ton of space this summer.

https://twitter.com/glovesaveluongo/status/702524132781486080
- VANTEL

wow

BTW - loving the avatar
- Codes1087

Thanks. Was doing some reading about the movie. It could have been even better if the studio hadn't pulled $7m from the budget at the last minute. That's why he kept forgetting his goodie bag of guns.

Is Bobby Mac trolling?


- 1979AD

Blob putting in some OT with the knife and fork?

Never get the urge to knock boots with an old gf?
- hillbillydeluxe

Keeping tabs is one thing, but Vancouver is almost at hoarding levels with the prospects despite a pretty awful track record of drafting. Maybe everyone is playing the odds that we are owed by the hockey gods to strike gold from here on out

Thanks. Was doing some reading about the movie. It could have been even better if the studio hadn't pulled $7m from the budget at the last minute. That's why he kept forgetting his goodie bag of guns.
- PetrolSexual

Have you not seen it yet?!?!?! I love some of the backstories behind the movie. Didn't realize it was supposed to be made 10 years ago

I find it fascinating. The same posters that constantly call Benning a useless idiot are in love with his draft picks. If he is willing to immediately dump Forsling he obviously wasn't high on him. Who else likely knows more about the player than the team that followed him overseas and drafted him? He had a great junior tournament and they leveraged that to trade for a more ready prospect. Clearly the prospect didn't workout but it was a sound strategy
- CanuckDon

I find it more fascinating that the consensus is that JB can draft really well. It is his strongest suit, but suddenly after the player is drafted, his evaluating skills go to poop and doesnt know what he's giving away and getting

I had seen 2 or 3 different posts regarding TT + for a package of Vrbata and Hamhuis. I am not thinking that it was going to happen, but I certainly didn't propose TT in trade talks. I would agree that generally Hamhuis was more sought after in your thread but Vrbata was tossed arounda s well as a depth guy for playoffs. Either way, I don't know if Benning does anything if it involves Bickell as he is trying to clear a ton of space this summer.
- Codes1087

There's no other way for the 'Hawks to take on BOTH Vrbata and Hamhuis without Bickell going the other way. $9.5 million is a HUGE cap figure to absorb, and right now the 'Hawks have $4.5 million (and will be a little over $6 million once Kruger is LTIR'd). The math wouldn't work out. Hamhuis is the more intriguing option of the two, and perhaps a deal gets done for him. HIGHLY doubt both Vrbata and Hamhuis are going to Chicago WITHOUT Bickell going the other way. It's just not fiscally possible.

Keeping tabs is one thing, but Vancouver is almost at hoarding levels with the prospects despite a pretty awful track record of drafting. Maybe everyone is playing the odds that we are owed by the hockey gods to strike gold from here on out
- WhiteLie

I think we all get soo bent out of shape regarding the trading of prospects because the Gillis era was sooo terrible at drafting OR traded away picks that its finally getting exciting to know that a former pro scout is leading the charge. Suddenly the fanbase is fascinated and interested in who is being picked and keeps tabs on their progress. I wasn't half as interested in the Gillis era because they were all borderline terrible and didn't pan out. Again, I am not upset at all over the Shink trade, I think with all the negatives surrounding his game, I think this is a great move. I just wish we gave him more of a shot at the NHL level to see what he had before shipping him off.

Have you not seen it yet?!?!?! I love some of the backstories behind the movie. Didn't realize it was supposed to be made 10 years ago
- Codes1087

I've totally seen it... fighting the urge to go see it again. I'm glad they waited to make it, they timing was perfect.

Keeping tabs is one thing, but Vancouver is almost at hoarding levels with the prospects despite a pretty awful track record of drafting. Maybe everyone is playing the odds that we are owed by the hockey gods to strike gold from here on out
- WhiteLie

Been buying lotto picks for years, one of these days...

I think we all get soo bent out of shape regarding the trading of prospects because the Gillis era was sooo terrible at drafting OR traded away picks that its finally getting exciting to know that a former pro scout is leading the charge. Suddenly the fanbase is fascinated and interested in who is being picked and keeps tabs on their progress. I wasn't half as interested in the Gillis era because they were all borderline terrible and didn't pan out. Again, I am not upset at all over the Shink trade, I think with all the negatives surrounding his game, I think this is a great move. I just wish we gave him more of a shot at the NHL level to see what he had before shipping him off.
- Codes1087

I agree, plus the game is more accessible for the lower levels so its easier to monitor. So far JB has been cleaning out previous regime's picks and replacing them with guys of his own, which I think the fan base should have more excitement about.
I do think he is selling high on Shink, he slipped in the draft and still has holes in his game at the AHL level. Although they wont ever admit it, I hope in house they decided to not call him up to protect his deficiencies from being exposed at the NHL level and showing how much more work he has to go. (wouldnt that be something if it were true... )

There's no other way for the 'Hawks to take on BOTH Vrbata and Hamhuis without Bickell going the other way. $9.5 million is a HUGE cap figure to absorb, and right now the 'Hawks have $4.5 million (and will be a little over $6 million once Kruger is LTIR'd). The math wouldn't work out. Hamhuis is the more intriguing option of the two, and perhaps a deal gets done for him. HIGHLY doubt both Vrbata and Hamhuis are going to Chicago WITHOUT Bickell going the other way. It's just not fiscally possible.
- TommyHawk

IF Bickell was coming the other way, then TT would be a good starting point in a return. You honestly think two UFA's (rentals) for Bickell would be fair trade? If not TT, then the late 1st and 2nd. Why would we trade Hamhuis (could fetch a 1st) and Vrbata (either a 2nd or a 3rd) to CHI in exchange for bickell when they could fetch those picks alone elsewhere?

Been buying lotto picks for years, one of these days...
- hillbillydeluxe

I think 2014 was Vancouver's winning ticket, 2 NHLers so far and another likely with Demko and possibly Tree. I doubt we see another draft year like that for Vancouver in a while

There's no other way for the 'Hawks to take on BOTH Vrbata and Hamhuis without Bickell going the other way. $9.5 million is a HUGE cap figure to absorb, and right now the 'Hawks have $4.5 million (and will be a little over $6 million once Kruger is LTIR'd). The math wouldn't work out. Hamhuis is the more intriguing option of the two, and perhaps a deal gets done for him. HIGHLY doubt both Vrbata and Hamhuis are going to Chicago WITHOUT Bickell going the other way. It's just not fiscally possible.
- TommyHawk

How about
Hammer 50 percent retained 2.25m
Vrabata 50 percent retained 2.5m
Total 4.75m

For a first,second and Forsling

- golfingsince

I found this quite funny...