You send us TT+ and we will take Bickell off your hands.
- Retinalz

Bowman's a freaking idiot. Now that this has leaked out, it's going to raise the value of Hamhuis and Vrbata

Bowman's a freaking idiot. Now that this has leaked out, it's going to raise the value of Hamhuis and Vrbata
- bazz

OMG Bowmans an idiot, did he really leak this out, did Boob McKenzie report this on twitter, facebook ,reddit, TSN, did he inform 29 other teams, did he leave bickells name off the list...OMFG, the hawks site must be in turmoil, calling for him to be fired immediately....(frank) the sky it's falling all over again

You are absolutely correct, that is more fascinating. It's like he can only evaluate kids from age 15-18 and is a clueless moron as soon as a prospect hits 19. How can people be so stupid?
- CanuckDon

Can you provide some evidence that JB is a good evaluator of any level of talent?

When you look at his record as a hockey executive his trade record is much better than his draft record before he became a canuck:

http://www.nucksmisconduc...es-as-an-assistant-and-gm

I find it funny that the Bruins have traded away all draft picks attributed to JB:

"Under his tenure the Bruins have drafted Milan Lucic, Brad Marchand, Joe Colbourne, Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton."

All but Marchand is still with the bruins. Weird.

Can you provide some evidence that JB is a good evaluator of any level of talent?

When you look at his record as a hockey executive his trade record is much better than his draft record before he became a canuck:

http://www.nucksmisconduc...es-as-an-assistant-and-gm

I find it funny that the Bruins have traded away all draft picks attributed to JB:

"Under his tenure the Bruins have drafted Milan Lucic, Brad Marchand, Joe Colbourne, Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton."

All but Marchand is still with the bruins. Weird.
- bloatedmosquito

I dont think he has a batting average that is outstanding (all drafting is taking your best guess), but we were mainly commenting on the narrative around here from JB's critics that they all acknowledge he can draft well and they still want him around as a scout but he's not allowed to make any trades since he gives away great prospects for junk

Bowman's a freaking idiot. Now that this has leaked out, it's going to raise the value of Hamhuis and Vrbata
- bazz

I am pretty sure Benning sent a text to Farjan of TSN and said "hey, I will give you a Timmies Gift Card if you post on social media that Stan is interested in Radim and Hammer. Plzzzz?"

OMG Bowmans an idiot, did he really leak this out, did Boob McKenzie report this on twitter, facebook ,reddit, TSN, did he inform 29 other teams, did he leave bickells name off the list...OMFG, the hawks site must be in turmoil, calling for him to be fired immediately....(frank) the sky it's falling all over again
- Makita

Flagged for undo hysteria.

Can you provide some evidence that JB is a good evaluator of any level of talent?

When you look at his record as a hockey executive his trade record is much better than his draft record before he became a canuck:

http://www.nucksmisconduc...es-as-an-assistant-and-gm

I find it funny that the Bruins have traded away all draft picks attributed to JB:

"Under his tenure the Bruins have drafted Milan Lucic, Brad Marchand, Joe Colbourne, Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton."

All but Marchand is still with the bruins. Weird.
- bloatedmosquito

JB is slowly trading away all draft picks attributed to MG.

OMG Bowmans an idiot, did he really leak this out, did Boob McKenzie report this on twitter, facebook ,reddit, TSN, did he inform 29 other teams, did he leave bickells name off the list...OMFG, the hawks site must be in turmoil, calling for him to be fired immediately....(frank) the sky it's falling all over again
- Makita

I think people were more stunned that JB hung one of these outside Roger's Arena.



If a player clears waivers earlier in the season why would that player's value increase now towards the end of the season? If anything it reeked of desperation.

Can you provide some evidence that JB is a good evaluator of any level of talent?

When you look at his record as a hockey executive his trade record is much better than his draft record before he became a canuck:

http://www.nucksmisconduc...es-as-an-assistant-and-gm

I find it funny that the Bruins have traded away all draft picks attributed to JB:

"Under his tenure the Bruins have drafted Milan Lucic, Brad Marchand, Joe Colbourne, Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton."

All but Marchand is still with the bruins. Weird.
- bloatedmosquito

Asset management.

OMG Bowmans an idiot, did he really leak this out, did Boob McKenzie report this on twitter, facebook ,reddit, TSN, did he inform 29 other teams, did he leave bickells name off the list...OMFG, the hawks site must be in turmoil, calling for him to be fired immediately....(frank) the sky it's falling all over again
- Makita[/quote]
lol

JB is slowly trading away all draft picks attributed to MG.
- Codes1087

Just like the Bruins are doing with his and Chiarelli's picks. It's just weird. It seems to be the typical MO for new management. Sometimes, I think we underestimate the egos involved in pro hockey leadership.

Sedin-Sedin-Hansen
Baertschi-Horvat-Virtanen
Etem-Granlund-Vey
Burrows-McCann-Dorsett

Hutton-Tanev
Sbisa-Biega
Hamhuis-Bartkowski

— Vancouver Canucks (@VanCanucks) February 25, 2016

Surprising they'd move Vey considering Willie's undying love for him?

http://www.vancitybuzz.co...nucks-trade-deadline-nhl/

Brock Boeser turns 19 today - just saying @ BBoeser16

I think people were more stunned that JB hung one of these outside Roger's Arena.



If a player clears waivers earlier in the season why would that player's value increase now towards the end of the season? If anything it reeked of desperation.
- bloatedmosquito

Not to me, It's a business process, just because they cleared waivers, should he just forget and ignore that he has them on the payroll.
The way I interpret things is a media person contacted the canucks..inquired if there were anyone available...a list of names was provided. the list was promptly broadcast that these specific players are DEFINITELY available.

I would have done the same thing, these guys are available give me a call and we will discuss any and all options. Desperation my not so much...hyperbole by fans most definitely.

Asset management.
- Marwood

True if it produced results but I think Boston's recent moves have been scrutinized as much as Vancouver’s recent moves.

I agree asset management is really important (knowing when it's time to trade the vets) but they traded away youth for immediate returns, not thinking of the future.

Can you imagine what this board would look like if JB traded a Seguin for an Eriksson?

True if it produced results but I think Boston's recent moves have been scrutinized as much as Vancouver’s recent moves.

I agree asset management is really important (knowing when it's time to trade the vets) but they traded away youth for immediate returns, not thinking of the future.

Can you imagine what this board would look like if JB traded a Seguin for an Eriksson?
- bloatedmosquito

I think Seabass was uber pissed after last season or the season before and decided to clean house. I remember it being perceived as an over-reaction by some, at the time. But you are right in they have received as much scrutiny as us.

Not to me, It's a business process, just because they cleared waivers, should he just forget and ignore that he has them on the payroll.
The way I interpret things is a media person contacted the canucks..inquired if there were anyone available...a list of names was provided. the list was promptly broadcast that these specific players are DEFINITELY available.

I would have done the same thing, these guys are available give me a call and we will discuss any and all options. Desperation my not so much...hyperbole by fans most definitely.
- Makita

I could understand if there were some names on that list that were a surprise but those names made public were obviously available and other GMs already know these players could be had for very little.

Maybe not desperate, but definitely redundant.

I could understand if there were some names on that list that were a surprise but those names made public were obviously available and other GMs already know these players could be had for very little.

Maybe not desperate, but definitely redundant.
- bloatedmosquito

It might of been leaked to try an appease the hysterical fanbase that change is afoot.

True if it produced results but I think Boston's recent moves have been scrutinized as much as Vancouver’s recent moves.

I agree asset management is really important (knowing when it's time to trade the vets) but they traded away youth for immediate returns, not thinking of the future.

Can you imagine what this board would look like if JB traded a Seguin for an Eriksson?
- bloatedmosquito

Probably go batpoop crazy....what would the oilers blog look like if it was Peter Chiarelli, the GM that made that trade, not JB and yes we have all seen the video of JB talking but he was 1 of several individuals in the room providing information to PC

I could understand if there were some names on that list that were a surprise but those names made public were obviously available and other GMs already know these players could be had for very little.

Maybe not desperate, but definitely redundant.
- bloatedmosquito

JPat saying Cracknell could be a good pickup for a playoff team. Now we hear, he's scratched for tonight. Oh man, I so damn excited. Come on, Benning. Do this. And anything less than a 2nd and you're an idiot.

JPat saying Cracknell could be a good pickup for a playoff team. Now we hear, he's scratched for tonight. Oh man, I so damn excited. Come on, Benning. Do this. And anything less than a 2nd and you're an idiot.
- bazz

For Cracknell? I have no words....

True if it produced results but I think Boston's recent moves have been scrutinized as much as Vancouver’s recent moves.

I agree asset management is really important (knowing when it's time to trade the vets) but they traded away youth for immediate returns, not thinking of the future.

Can you imagine what this board would look like if JB traded a Seguin for an Eriksson?
- bloatedmosquito

Frankly (not commenting on this particular poster or post), I think some folks need to read a book about managing a hockey team. Hell - Theo Fleury's autobiography even.

Managing players in real life is not the same as doing so in a video game. Analytics has done an excellent job try to account for bias in evaluation, but it doesn't account for evaluation technics that you need in order to coach and manage players. The only thing that helps with those is, y'know, experience doing them.

I didn't like the Sbisa signing until I started to see how bad the market for defensemen is and how horrible our defensmen are. I couldn't figure out the Sutter for Bonino/Clenndenning trade...until I saw Clenndenning get traded AGAIN for what? the 4th time in 2 years?

The Kassian trade seemed nuts, until it didn't.

And though we likely won't ever find out what was going on with Shinkiruk, Benning told us all we need to know: "We tried to get a defenseman for him and this was the best we could get." Ie. We tried to trade this guy and took what we could get.

Why? Did he tell the coach to go f* himself? Was using and introducing teammates to coke? Was he scoring like mad by having no defensive game? Who knows...not us.

Time will tell on Benning for sure. But here's the thing: Gillis pulled off some great moves in his tenure, but he a) messed up one of the best goalie situations with the Luongo contract and b) he didn't stock the team well with prospects.

Benning hasn't crapped the bed with signings IMHO and our prospect pool has definitely increased. He promised rebuilding on the fly and that's what we've gotten.

For Cracknell? I have no words....
- Codes1087

Sorry, forgot to add the necessary emoticons to indicate true feeling. Here we go:

Hamhuis is on TSN 1040 right now. Sounds super depressed at all this trade chatter regarding his name

Hamhuis on leaving, then returning: That's one of the options. And a very interesting one. We've loved Vancouver and would welcome more

— TSN Radio Vancouver (@TSN1040) February 25, 2016