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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
I wouldnt be mentioning him if I didnt think he would be good here.
Again, players who cant reach contract due to demands are worth less.

and the TON is what Im meaning by it gets crazy for payment at TDL. What players go for at this time ...it wont be even close to that come summer.

Im making no claim to his value, more wondering what it would be. What should his value be?

- SMBDragon


I would say probably close to but more than Dougie Hamilton's value, prior to his season in Calgary
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:21 PM ET
he's an RFA, so I think it is almost the same.
- neem55

Maybe a conditional situation....like IF hes resigned the return is more. Trades like that happen every year at this time and leading to the draft.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:22 PM ET
Furthermore, I'd argue that the fact that Benning had to issue a league wide notice of eviction demonstrates the little to negative value those players hold

If there was even a semblance of interest that strategy would not have been implemented

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
Furthermore, I'd argue that the fact that Benning had to issue a league wide notice of eviction demonstrates the little to negative value those players hold

If there was even a semblance of interest that strategy would not have been implemented


- Whiskey-Tango


Meh, normally I would say the same, but really, what difference does it make. I think it is just a sign that he is willing to take what most teams are willing to offer. That is all.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
I would say probably close to but more than Dougie Hamilton's value, prior to his season in Calgary
- WhiteLie


OK so pretty much everyone feels its more than a 2nd. You may all be right

Honestly there was some hoping itd be less than a 1st given the RFA and contract squabble
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
I would say probably close to but more than Dougie Hamilton's value, prior to his season in Calgary
- WhiteLie


I don't know about that, Hamilton is 6 '5 and had a pretty big year for boston. vatenen is more one-dimensional, although Hamilton has not looked great this year in Calgary. Much to my surprise/enjoyment
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
Meh, normally I would say the same, but really, what difference does it make. I think it is just a sign that he is willing to take what most teams are willing to offer. That is all.
- Codes1087


Pretty much.
It's like an unofficial waiver wire approach.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:25 PM ET
I lol'd as well, cannot fathom who would want any of this junk
- Crazybagoham


Especially when each and everyone of them has passed or would pass through waivers
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:25 PM ET
OK so pretty much everyone feels its more than a 2nd. You may all be right

Honestly there was some hoping itd be less than a 1st given the RFA and contract squabble

- SMBDragon


1st and a C level prospect would probably get them listening.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:31 PM ET
I don't know about that, Hamilton is 6 '5 and had a pretty big year for boston. vatenen is more one-dimensional, although Hamilton has not looked great this year in Calgary. Much to my surprise/enjoyment
- neem55


I personally like Vatanen better, for a guy thats 6'-5" I dont think Hamilton is as imposing or physical as he should be. I think value-wise they are close, Vatenen is really gifted offensively and not poor defensively, while Hamilton generally is solid in all aspects. But yes, his season this year has definitely been surprising. I was watching one of the last Van-Cal games and I didnt hear his name until the 3rd and had completely forgotten he was on the team
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
1st and a C level prospect would probably get them listening.
- Codes1087

wow...that much.

So you know, My knowledge is more in strategy and systems used by a team. totally shows why some teams win and others lose a series. Or even seasons. ...makes me laugh when I hear statements hear like 'they just had more heart' when the results were apparent early on with tactical play.

Im not so much on trade values or Draft position, not my forte.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 24 @ 6:36 PM ET
OK so pretty much everyone feels its more than a 2nd. You may all be right

Honestly there was some hoping itd be less than a 1st given the RFA and contract squabble

- SMBDragon

Hamilton was in a contract squabble as well and got a 1st and two 2nds.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:37 PM ET
1st and a C level prospect would probably get them listening.
- Codes1087

think maybe Id rather have them draft the D then and see in UFA. Maybe in summer offer sheet someone from a team pressed to the cap unless theyre of the big compensation variety. No point overpaying when theres no playoffs.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
I personally like Vatanen better, for a guy thats 6'-5" I dont think Hamilton is as imposing or physical as he should be. I think value-wise they are close, Vatenen is really gifted offensively and not poor defensively, while Hamilton generally is solid in all aspects. But yes, his season this year has definitely been surprising. I was watching one of the last Van-Cal games and I didnt hear his name until the 3rd and had completely forgotten he was on the team
- WhiteLie


That's fair. Hamilton showed a lot of upside on offense how he was in Boston last year (he cracked 40 points I think). That size/reach you can't teach although I agree he's not very physical for that size.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
Hamilton was in a contract squabble as well and got a 1st and two 2nds.
- A_SteamingLombardi

But he was also hyped as the hot commodity at that time too.

Like I said sometimes prices get stupidly inflated at certain times of year.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
I'd much rather have Theodore before Vatanen.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 24 @ 6:44 PM ET
think maybe Id rather have them draft the D then and see in UFA. Maybe in summer offer sheet someone from a team pressed to the cap unless theyre of the big compensation variety. No point overpaying when theres no playoffs.
- SMBDragon


Big NO from me on offer sheets. Too expensive at this point in the rebuild.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:45 PM ET
I'd much rather have Theodore before Vatanen.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Definitely
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:45 PM ET
Is that Linden poster one of Nuckers alternate accounts. He has only shown up when Phucker joins. I think he is Phucker uncensored
- CanuckDon

If you are referring to me then I can assure you I have nothing to do with that phucker.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
I'd much rather have Theodore before Vatanen.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Agreed. I think Ana would as well.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
Big NO from me on offer sheets. Too expensive at this point in the rebuild.
- dbot

depends on the player / team / contract. If you get a team that is cash strapped....

otherwise I agree with that
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
Big NO from me on offer sheets. Too expensive at this point in the rebuild.
- dbot


IF you're going to offer sheet someone then save up and take a run at Connor.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:47 PM ET
Big NO from me on offer sheets. Too expensive at this point in the rebuild.
- dbot


When was the last offer sheet?? Years ago...they aren't an option anymore with the heightened value of draft picks
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:49 PM ET
If you are referring to me then I can assure you I have nothing to do with that phucker.
- Linden_4_Capt


Def. not you...the odd little guy with the bag on his head
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:49 PM ET
When was the last offer sheet?? Years ago...they aren't an option anymore with the heightened value of draft picks
- CanuckDon


ROR.
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