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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
The other 2 aren't going anywhere. So mcginn is, and I'm fine with that.
- Mentalorgasm5


Hope you like losing then.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
Almost half his goals are on the PP, which a contender won't put him on. The other half is probably Eichel.
- Sabresfan-365


I think McGinn is perfect for a playoff team. You need those gritty guys to bang in the corners and create havoc for the goalie in front.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:28 PM ET
Well none if Murray thinks it's okay to ice a team full of career 3rd liners on bad contracts
- bluengold12



I just don't get why you're so against getting a 3rd round pick for him?
I'm sure we'd all like more,
But Murray will get the best deal he can.
He can't force a team to pay what we want.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 27 @ 3:28 PM ET
Hope you like losing then.
- bluengold12


This
bflodukes
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Feb 27 @ 3:29 PM ET
McGinn to Nashville me thinks
- Stripes77

Tampa or Dallas??!!
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
http://www.wgr550.com/pages/22446944.php?contentType=4&contentId=18390478
- sbroads24

Imo hes a bottom 6 player that has inflated numbers from playing on a top line/pp.
You're seeing the better players moved first
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Plug the phone in, Darcy!...sorry, force of habit.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Imo hes a bottom 6 player that has inflated numbers from playing on a top line/pp.
You're seeing the better players moved first

- yen6d1


Yeah McGinn's a bum, he stinks!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
This
- gerbe75pts



Gionta is here for only 1 more year, and probably on our 4th line
Moulson had a tough deal to move...
Tbd how that's gonna play out, but it will

We don't need to get all up in arms about this stuff

Look at Chicago...
They have the Bickell contract, still pay Toews & Kane top $$$, remain a top Cup contender...
AND
Still managed to add Ladd at the deadline!

We'll be just fine guys
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
I just don't get why you're so against getting a 3rd round pick for him?
I'm sure we'd all like more,
But Murray will get the best deal he can.
He can't force a team to pay what we want.

- jdfitz77


Because I don't want another Daniel Catenacci or Justin Kea.

A guy who will spend three more (frank)ing years in junior then struggle to make the amerks line up let alone Buffalo's and then maybe someday after being in Rochester for three years play five games in Buffalo. 2nd round and 3rd round there's a huge drop off in talent. I don't feel like waiting six years to see if the return on McGinn pays off. I'd rather get a C level prospect who has two years development over some six year question mark
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
Hope you like losing then.
- bluengold12

I wish McGinn would be the difference in winning or losing. If all three of those 3rd liners on our team next year at those prices, we will be losing, it's why it's kind of crucial we don't resign and overpay McGinn.

Sometimes I feel people on this board confuse effort with skill.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
Travis Yost โ€@travisyost 39s39 seconds ago
Buffalo bas been offering Jamie McGinn around at a third-round pick price to a few teams. Could change but that's likely landing spot.

- chilliard77


So teams are basically balking at the 3rd? Fine.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:33 PM ET
Gionta is here for only 1 more year, and probably on our 4th line
Moulson had a tough deal to move...
Tbd how that's gonna play out, but it will

We don't need to get all up in arms about this stuff

Look at Chicago...
They have the Bickell contract, still pay Toews & Kane top $$$, remain a top Cup contender...
AND
Still managed to add Ladd at the deadline!

We'll be just fine guys

- jdfitz77


They also have a couple elite defenders and three elite lines. Not Larsson Foligno and Girgensons.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:33 PM ET
Because I don't want another Daniel Catenacci or Justin Kea.

A guy who will spend three more (frank)ing years in junior then struggle to make the amerks line up let alone Buffalo's and then maybe someday after being in Rochester for three years play five games in Buffalo. 2nd round and 3rd round there's a huge drop off in talent. I don't feel like waiting six years to see if the return on McGinn pays off. I'd rather get a C level prospect who has two years development over some six year question mark

- bluengold12


Depends on where you place the value of moving him. Personally don't care what the return for him is, the real asset is not adding to an already way overpriced bottom 6.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:33 PM ET
So teams are basically balking at the 3rd? Fine.
- mhp


Apparently he's worth less than Mike Weber...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
Because I don't want another Daniel Catenacci or Justin Kea.

A guy who will spend three more (frank)ing years in junior then struggle to make the amerks line up let alone Buffalo's and then maybe someday after being in Rochester for three years play five games in Buffalo. 2nd round and 3rd round there's a huge drop off in talent. I don't feel like waiting six years to see if the return on McGinn pays off. I'd rather get a C level prospect who has two years development over some six year question mark

- bluengold12


Those late 2nd rounders and 3rd rounders are what makes your team down the road when you have your top 6 set.

You keep them for cheap before they become to expensive and then trade them. It's the Chicago method.

With ROR, Eichel, Reinhart, Risto, hopefully a top 3 pick this year and wishful thinking Stamkos Murray needs to load up on those picks to round this roster out.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Harvey Fialkov โ€@hfialkov ยท 2m2 minutes ago

Im hearing Panthers got Purcell and Kindl too #unofficial

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Apparently he's worth less than Mike Weber...
- bluengold12


Eh that draft pick is years away though

Edit: Hatty #2 of the day
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Depends on where you place the value of moving him. Personally don't care what the return for him is, the real asset is not adding to an already way overpriced bottom 6.
- Sabresfan-365


I see it as why settle for a 3rd round pick which means he's worth the same as Mike (frank)ing Weber when you can ask for some guy whose on the final year of his junior career or in the ahl and still trying to find his footing.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
Travis Yost โ€@travisyost 38s39 seconds ago
Teddy Purcell to FLA for I believe a third round pick.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
Because I don't want another Daniel Catenacci or Justin Kea.

A guy who will spend three more (frank)ing years in junior then struggle to make the amerks line up let alone Buffalo's and then maybe someday after being in Rochester for three years play five games in Buffalo. 2nd round and 3rd round there's a huge drop off in talent. I don't feel like waiting six years to see if the return on McGinn pays off. I'd rather get a C level prospect who has two years development over some six year question mark

- bluengold12



Of course we'd all rather have a higher pick...
But Murray will get what he can get

And a 3rd is WAY better than nothing
Tons & tons of quality players picked after the 2nd round

Even if we have to "wait 6 years"
We have SO MANY other prospects that will be coming up in that time
And only a couple open roster spots

It's really not that big of a deal if we take a 3rd in 2017
Fits the timeline better actually, giving us future depth
We have lots of depth coming over the next couple years
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
EK says Hartnell to Nashville
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
I see it as why settle for a 3rd round pick which means he's worth the same as Mike (frank)ing Weber when you can ask for some guy whose on the final year of his junior career or in the ahl and still trying to find his footing.
- bluengold12


Perhaps people aren't too keen to move on from them. As stripes said, having those guys constantly flow through the system to replace older players is what keeps cap strapped contenders contending for so long.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 27 @ 3:38 PM ET
They also have a couple elite defenders and three elite lines. Not Larsson Foligno and Girgensons.
- bluengold12



Quick, who's on the Hawks 3rd line...
Without looking

FAR from elite

And the above guys u mentioned are all young & likely to get better
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:40 PM ET
Apparently he's worth less than Mike Weber...
- bluengold12


That trade still amazes me. A 3rd for Weber?
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