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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
So if Stall goes for 2 2nd's and a prospect, what does Boedker go for? Staal is a far superior player. My guess is 2nd + prospect.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
Read the post correctly I said 5 years from now. Who is that third rounder You don't know idiots You don't know There are exceptions to all the rules If you go by percentages that third rounder will be insignificant in 5 years. He will be called Mr. Irrelevant
- holeinone

well I know what I read. I also see you say that their 3rd rounders WILL FOR SURE not be any good players. the point I tried and other people tried to make was the you can never know. it is not like 3rd rounders give nhl players OFTEN no but it happens. and to strenghthen your point look at the oilers picks that have been 3rd round or lower last 10 years. they all suck
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
And don't forget that all time great No 1 overall Pick Marc Andre Fleury Number One over all Do you think he has lived up to his ranking I don't think so
- holeinone


Eric Johnson was a 1st overall, he hasn't lived up to his expectations, same with Yak. He has about 100 its in 4 NHL seasons. Mean while Datsyuk was 171st overall. I think the draft is a crapshoot and a lot depends on how well a team can develop players.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
Good points. Until I see what other D go for (beyond Weber types) I can't say whether this was a good deal of not. If Russell for example goes for a 1st, this was a great deal.

And we have no idea what we're going to get. Edmonton fans hated him, but Pittsburgh fans have given up on Malkin and Crosby at times. I mean, Johnston's negligence made Crosby mortal, I have no doubt that Edmonton's circus can ruin a player pretty quickly, too.

I mean, Jeff Petry was a -47 his last two years in Edmonton, and he's been fine for the Canadiens.

- hardnosed


Have to agree. If he doesn't work out, we can let him go this offseason. Worth a shot IMO.
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
Here is the bottom line If you get drafted by a crap team, you will likely turn into who drafted you. Yes there are exceptions but look around and see who struggles. Teams with no leadership are a disaster for young players
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
So if Stall goes for 2 2nd's and a prospect, what does Boedker go for? Staal is a far superior player. My guess is 2nd + prospect.
- sammy87


Staal is completely washed up

He needs 1st line and PP minutes just to put up the dismal numbers he does now
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Feb 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
Staal is completely washed up

He needs 1st line and PP minutes just to put up the dismal numbers he does now

- TheGame316


Staal and Nash could be a nice duo for the Rangers.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
Staal and Nash could be a nice duo for the Rangers.
- stackthepads



High cost underperforming postseason guys
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 28 @ 4:48 PM ET
And don't forget that all time great No 1 overall Pick Marc Andre Fleury Number One over all Do you think he has lived up to his ranking I don't think so
- holeinone


Top 20 in all time wins and will most likely finish in the top 10...looks like the Penguins did already with that pick
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 28 @ 4:49 PM ET
Here is the bottom line If you get drafted by a crap team, you will likely turn into who drafted you. Yes there are exceptions but look around and see who struggles. Teams with no leadership are a disaster for young players
- holeinone

Can you just stop being wrong...for once?
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 28 @ 4:51 PM ET
Here is the bottom line If you get drafted by a crap team, you will likely turn into who drafted you. Yes there are exceptions but look around and see who struggles. Teams with no leadership are a disaster for young players
- holeinone



Yes, because Sid, Toews, Doughty, Kane, etc. who were drafted by crap teams at the time all turned out rotten.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
Yes, because Sid, Toews, Doughty, Kane, etc. who were drafted by crap teams at the time all turned out rotten.
- smellmyfinger



Yep!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 28 @ 5:19 PM ET
There's been alot of great players drafted through the years outside the first or second round, no doubt. Compared to the amount of players that have been drafted in the 3rd round and never even sniffed the NHL though, the amount of impactfull NHLrs is very small. RW has had blogs about the chances of players drafted in each round actually making it to the NHL. Very small % of 3rd rounders make it. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over using a 3rd to obtain a player that has the potential to be solid contributer this year and perhaps future years. If he busts the Pens haven't given up much to find out.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 5:21 PM ET
It's believed Boston's last offer on Eriksson was 4 yrs, $5.25 mil per. Could be a year or two and just under $1 mil per yr light.

holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
[quote=willi]
How many cups for the First overall pick as a Goalie One Not good enough
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Feb 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
Unloading Cole and Bonino would be such an easy call if not for the injuries to Fehr and Lovejoy. That would make things much more interesting tomorrow. As it stands, moving Plotnikov (they're holding him out of practice today and the skate tomorrow) is about the only move I see them making.
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 5:37 PM ET
Can you just stop being wrong...for once?
- Reverend Killtaker

You should know that I am never wrong
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 5:38 PM ET
There's been alot of great players drafted through the years outside the first or second round, no doubt. Compared to the amount of players that have been drafted in the 3rd round and never even sniffed the NHL though, the amount of impactfull NHLrs is very small. RW has had blogs about the chances of players drafted in each round actually making it to the NHL. Very small % of 3rd rounders make it. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over using a 3rd to obtain a player that has the potential to be solid contributer this year and perhaps future years. If he busts the Pens haven't given up much to find out.
- MattStrat

Finally a common sense person on this board Must not be a Liberal
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 5:39 PM ET
Yep!
- Guile

Leadership is the key Read the post idiot
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
Yes, because Sid, Toews, Doughty, Kane, etc. who were drafted by crap teams at the time all turned out rotten.
- smellmyfinger

Leadership is the Key Idiot
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Feb 28 @ 5:49 PM ET
Leadership is the Key Idiot
- holeinone



Eh there hun....calm down.....we all like to agree with each other and pat each other on the back in this blog.

Your really messing wit da MOJO of this board guy.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Feb 28 @ 6:13 PM ET
For the people female doging about the 3rd round pick and giving examples...for every 3 round pick that makes the NHL, there are what? 5 that don't....I just don't understand the complaining. I will hold off on my judgement till the off season to see what happens.
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Feb 28 @ 6:31 PM ET
Montoya hurt in today's game for Florida. Panthers may need a backup for Luongo... Possible Zatkoff destination??
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 28 @ 6:36 PM ET
Deal DONE: NY Rangers get Eric Stall (50% retained) for 2 2nd round picks and prospect sarella
- martox


I'm sure Jordan is thrilled the only reason he wanted to go to Carolina is gone now.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
You should read the Oilers blog. It called Schultz' time in Edmonton a "long nightmare." Mind you, this is one of the worst sports franchises in NA that was terrible well before Schultz arrived.
- jfkst1


Exactly.
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