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holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:38 PM ET
Edmonton fans thought he sucked ... everyone who has watched him play thinks he sucks. We essentially gave up a third round pick for a crappy Dman who is a pending RFA that we really can't afford to resign based on his QO. I would rather have my third round pick back.
- Oneonta Penguin

If I recall, we got a third rounder for letting Shero to to NJ That is how much a 3rd rounder is worth
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:39 PM ET
Negative. I'm liberal. Canadian liberal. It's Trudeau.
- MattStrat

Most liberals do not have any common sense but maybe in Canada they do although I doubt it Liberals are liberals where ever they are
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:42 PM ET
the Pensblog actually had an interesting way of looking at this trade. About 20% of 3rd round picks play over 100 NHL games. So we're essentially saying, does Schultz have a greater than 20% chance of being useful? And, of course, we dont have to wait 3 years to find out.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Exactly my point and probably not 3 years more like 5
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
Exactly my point and probably not 3 years more like 5
- holeinone


I think 200 NHL games is a better measure and that is less than 12% of 3rd rounders. Less than 200 NHL games isn't a useful player IMO.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
1 out of every 5 players drafted in the third round MAKE the NHL let alone turn out to be great... The pick should be a late 3rd, hopefully the last in the round, and it's a small price for a possible starter. Give him a few games before ruling it a bad trade.
- hipcheck_goalie



He isn't a starter. He is an 8th Dman type.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 28 @ 9:06 PM ET
No trades tonight for pens per yohe
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
if theres ever a time for Eklund to be wrong..

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 45s46 seconds ago
Flyers may have interest in Jordan Staal. Stay tuned.

I would puke!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
if theres ever a time for Eklund to be wrong..

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 45s46 seconds ago
Flyers may have interest in Jordan Staal. Stay tuned.

I would puke!

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I hope they trade all their futures they've been drafting/developing for him. Staal is not even close to playing up to his contract so this would be a stupid trade for Filthy. Then again, considering the source (Eklund) I doubt it is credible.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
if theres ever a time for Eklund to be wrong..

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 45s46 seconds ago
Flyers may have interest in Jordan Staal. Stay tuned.

I would puke!

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Careful. May want to get a bucket.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 28 @ 9:25 PM ET
Versteeg to law for prospect and 5th
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:33 PM ET
Versteeg to law for prospect and 5th
- nh4442


From what I can tell, it is a good- not great- prospect. Decent return for Carolina. Pens couldn't match that.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 28 @ 9:42 PM ET
From what I can tell, it is a good- not great- prospect. Decent return for Carolina. Pens couldn't match that.
- jfkst1

Come on 4th and.... Um ... And..... Zlobin?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Talking about Staals, who would have ever thought that Brian Dumoulin would currently be the most impactful piece of the Jordan Staal trade.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Talking about Staals, who would have ever thought that Brian Dumoulin would currently be the most impactful piece of the Jordan Staal trade.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


That's why you get throw ins whenever possible. It's just grabbing another lottery ticket like an extra draft pick. Dupuis was another one.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
Talking about Staals, who would have ever thought that Brian Dumoulin would currently be the most impactful piece of the Jordan Staal trade.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yup
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Feb 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
Thought it was ruopp Sutter and 1st
- nh4442


It was Sutter, Dumo and the pick that got us Pouliot.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
It was Sutter, Dumo and the pick that got us Pouliot.
- mmonana120

Yup
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
I hope they trade all their futures they've been drafting/developing for him. Staal is not even close to playing up to his contract so this would be a stupid trade for Filthy. Then again, considering the source (Eklund) I doubt it is credible.
- jfkst1


Makes no sense like most of Ek's "rumors". Staal is having a nice year. His impact can't always be judged on points. However, yes he's over-paid. Contract is long too. 6 more years....ouch.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:20 PM ET
I hope they trade all their futures they've been drafting/developing for him. Staal is not even close to playing up to his contract so this would be a stupid trade for Filthy. Then again, considering the source (Eklund) I doubt it is credible.
- jfkst1



Trying to think what the going rate would be for him as far as Philly. The other Staal, a pending UFA, got two seconds and a B prospect for 50% retention. Jordan is signed for six more years. No, he hasn't lived up to his contract at all and there is a lot of time left. Still a solid two-way forward. Probably a first and a good prospect. ... maybe Stolarz or one of those young D prospects?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 10:22 PM ET
Trying to think what the going rate would be for him as far as Philly. The other Staal, a pending UFA, got two seconds and a B prospect for 50% retention. Jordan is signed for six more years. No, he hasn't lived up to his contract at all and there is a lot of time left. Still a solid two-way forward. Probably a first and a good prospect. ... maybe Stolarz or one of those young D prospects?
- Oneonta Penguin


The trade makes no sense from either team's perspective IMO. I guess Carolina could take some salary back, but I would think they want at least two premier future assets to make that deal. So Filthy's 2016 1st and one of their top dmen prospects.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 28 @ 10:23 PM ET
Jordan Staal questioning his life choices....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-envisioned-it-happening/
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 28 @ 10:25 PM ET
Jordan Staal @ 6 million for 6 or Phil Kessel @ 6.8 for 6

Who ya got?

Go.....
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 10:31 PM ET
Jordan Staal @ 6 million for 6 or Phil Kessel @ 6.8 for 6

Who ya got?

Go.....

- TheGame316


Kessel. Not even close. Staal might be great defensively, but for $6m/yr you gotta produce more than he has on his contract.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 28 @ 10:34 PM ET
Jordan Staal questioning his life choices....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-envisioned-it-happening/

- TheGame316


I don't begrudge Jordan for his decision. But he is a complete moron if he didn't think this was a possible outcome. He left a perpetual playoff team that spends to the cap every season for a perpetual non-playoff team with an internal budget on the same contract.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 28 @ 10:41 PM ET
Saw about three different reports about Kunitz being out there on the market. Not sure if this is a case of one false report spreading or if its true....but I have no idea what the market would be or what to want in return.

My only preference is that if we trade Kunitz, we should trade Pouliot for a LW
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