Look at the the roster rollover Benning has been able to pull off in less then 2 years. Now he doesn't make 2 trades at the deadline and this is a rudderless ship.?
- fiveandagame

agreed. These guys are so quick to complain here, that "well, I was counting on this scenario I dreamt up"

Chances are the 2 GMs in on hammer were bidding JB down.

But if its true that he was offered a prospect and a 1st but didnt like the prospect, so what? You got a 1st for a guy you can resign in 4 months. Take the prospect and later shop him for more assets. If this report is true, then ya he should have taken that.

Look at the the roster rollover Benning has been able to pull off in less then 2 years. Now he doesn't make 2 trades at the deadline and this is a rudderless ship.?
- fiveandagame

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.

The guy who was a depth dman on the Oilers...the Oilers!
- Nucker101

A player that refused to sign with the oil....
But back to our regular scheduled panicking...








But still..



or is it

What point are you even trying to make?
- Lindenis#1

WHO DO YOU PUT IN 4C NOW TO REPLACE HIM?

you missed the entire line there?

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

I don't think anybody knows.

You guys... you have no (frank)ing clue what went on behind closed doors, not a (frank)ing clue. the same with Phucker or paper bag head or maureyballenstin. But you can come on here and spew garbage because no one got moved and Cracknel was waived to make room for a possible move.

Others have tried to explain their disappointment at the lack of TDL movement, but get labeled because they don't subscribe to hysteria, but have a more measured viewpoint.

You guys...
- Makita

Right, and others get labeled by the likes of you as being "hysterics" for being caring fans who are merely severely disappointed by the lack of anything.

Do we know what happened behind closed doors? No, but did anything of substance at all happen? No.

Excuse me for being a little pissy when this team is in need of a serious course of action.

Trader Jim

They're both Canuck fans and entitled to their opinion.

We had people screaming for AV's firing for years, as well as Gillis' dismissal.

If anybody thinks Benning should be above criticism then they haven't been paying attention.
- golfingsince

You have a unique view of what a Canucks fan is then. Popping into a thread once every three months to troll fans and utilizing a second account to validate your opinions. Real fans Golfing

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

We are rebuilding on the fly and doing a damn good job of it, thanks for asking.

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

In general, Benning has said that he wants to get younger (which he has), while still remaining competitive (which they haven't). Most of his deals have been acquiring younger guys who have gone through some development, but may not have hit their potential with their draft teams (Vey, Baertschi, Granlund, etc).

They do seem to have a plan, but it hasn't worked overly well to this point.

WHO DO YOU PUT IN 4C NOW TO REPLACE HIM?

you missed the entire line there?
- SMBDragon

I was pro-Cracknell and you told me something negative and then said my avatar sucks.

I don't know what you're trying say.

Trader Jim
- pker2theend

So does he keep that name still?

Right, and others get labeled by the likes of you as being "hysterics" for being caring fans who are merely severely disappointed by the lack of anything.

Do we know what happened behind closed doors? No, but did anything of substance at all happen? No.

Excuse me for being a little pissy when this team is in need of a serious course of action.


- Whiskey-Tango

Get out of here with your reason.

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

Early on JB stated we needed to fill a generation gap left by Mike Gillis.
We also had big holes in our peospect pool that we would stock up n keep our draft picks. Thats his plan n he has stuck to it.

Right, and others get labeled by the likes of you as being "hysterics" for being caring fans who are merely severely disappointed by the lack of anything.

Do we know what happened behind closed doors? No, but did anything of substance at all happen? No.

Excuse me for being a little pissy when this team is in need of a serious course of action.


- Whiskey-Tango

You have a unique view of what a Canucks fan is then. Popping into a thread once every three months to troll fans and utilizing a second account to validate your opinions. Real fans Golfing
- CanuckDon

Who the (frank) are you (or anyone else for that matter) to be able to define what a "Canucks fan" is?

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

The plan was to get younger, be a fast team with a mix of bigger and skilled guys that can all play. I really dont see how they have differed from the plan at all. The guys in the lineup for forwards are mostly in their early 20's now, JB has acquired guys like Sutter and Etem, for speed. Granlund and Vey were supposed to be skill acquisitions, but neither projected to be top 6 (though you still need to fill out your bottom six with responsible guys that can play). They wanted to get their draft picks in the lineup, which with Bo, JM and JV had brought in guys that have speed, skill and arent afraid to play gritty. They are following the plan, but some people are too outraged at the pace of the plan to see he has literally done everything he said.

EDIT: He also wanted to do all this while remaining competitive, because as we all know the Sedins will make you competitive whether you want it or not. So they brought in a goalie with experience to help cover their struggles and weaknesses (AKA the defense), and that has also succeeded. This year they can easily get back in the race, just as quickly as they can drop out of it. Again, most people just want to see a rebuild, but this was the plan from the beginning

Right, and others get labeled by the likes of you as being "hysterics" for being caring fans who are merely severely disappointed by the lack of anything.

Do we know what happened behind closed doors? No, but did anything of substance at all happen? No.

Excuse me for being a little pissy when this team is in need of a serious course of action.


- Whiskey-Tango

So original parasite. (frank) off to the Flyers thread asap
- CanuckDon

Who the (frank) are you (or anyone else for that matter) to be able to define what a "Canucks fan" is?
- Whiskey-Tango

Calm the (frank) down

In general, Benning has said that he wants to get younger (which he has), while still remaining competitive (which they haven't). Most of his deals have been acquiring younger guys who have gone through some development, but may not have hit their potential with their draft teams (Vey, Baertschi, Granlund, etc).

They do seem to have a plan, but it hasn't worked overly well to this point.
- nucks_94

Getting younger while staying competitive is the hard part unless you have a great prospect base which it sounds like you didn't. Gotta go one way or the other. Was the staying competitive direction from ownership?

In general, Benning has said that he wants to get younger (which he has), while still remaining competitive (which they haven't). Most of his deals have been acquiring younger guys who have gone through some development, but may not have hit their potential with their draft teams (Vey, Baertschi, Granlund, etc).

They do seem to have a plan, but it hasn't worked overly well to this point.
- nucks_94

The Canucks did remain competitive n made last years playoffs in his 1st year on the job. This year was not unexpected but still not over n done with albei its slim n skinny now. Nobody thought the retool on the fly would be magic but its still in its infancy. Only next year will see if its beginning to work.

Trader Jim
- pker2theend

My thoughts exactly.

I'm curious. What is Benning's plan for the team? I read through here a fair bit and I see people talking about individual moves and hopes but I wouldn't be able to identify an overall direction.

As much as people dump on the Leaf's disgust approach. Tear down everything and rebuild through the draft. All their moves are consistent with that plan. Move players out, bring in one year deals, hire Mark Hunter to scout and acquire picks and cap space.
- Canada Cup

Benning is trying to rebuild a stale roster as well. There was a massive age gap between the vets ie the Twins and new prospects ie Horvat Virtanen McCann. He has made some trades to try and find young NHLers in their early 20's like Vey , Baertschi, Etem and Granlund to help bridge the gap. He is big on drafting and developing . Boeser and Demko look very good and we are looking at another top 10 pick. They also have cap space if they want to take a run at a UFA.

Gillis sold the future of the team after 2011 trying to keep the window open and traded away all the future. Benning is in the process of trying to make the roster younger. Trading away Hamhuis and Vrbata would have helped this process but obviously that didn't happen. I don't think it was from lack of trying. I also don't think this the end of the world either.

The Canucks did remain competitive n made last years playoffs in his 1st year on the job. This year was not unexpected but still not over n done with albei its slim n skinny now. Nobody thought the retool on the fly would be magic but its still in its infancy. Only next year will see if its beginning to work.
- Nighthawk

They nearly won the division if I remember correctly. Led for most of the year and played some very entertaining hockey. This season has been worse because the games have been extremely dull to watch