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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
Benning is up:

https://www.youtube.com/w...m=hootsuite&utm_campaign=

Looks nervous....
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:21 PM ET
I think we should reserve our thoughts and comments until after the Summer. Benning must have something in mind with all this money freed up. If he does nothing, than we can start to pick apart
- Codes1087



You know damn well that's not how it works today. Benning couldn't make a trade today. This team is doomed for rest of eternity.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:21 PM ET
Here we go.

"They weren't paying alot"

Well poop, zero is much better.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:22 PM ET
3.25 isnt going to kill your teams cap over the next 3 years of starting to become competitive. It shows good faith in your players and fans. We aren't going to turn this around over night.
- Codes1087



Even if they draft a D man with the 1st. He will still need a couple of years to be ready.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 29 @ 5:22 PM ET
They never got an offer from Chi.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:22 PM ET
Parallel deal available from Dallas for Hamhuis.

Another deal offered at the end that didn't make sense for them.....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
To make room to resign Hammer is needed 1st.
Maybe @3m/3yrs with bonuses makes sense idk
No matter what thats for another day n by then the landscape will have changed.
Offseason n the draft will be more important then the Hamhuis question follows.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
Here we go.

"They weren't paying alot"

Well poop, zero is much better.

- Whiskey-Tango





Getting nothing is soooooo much better
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer now20 seconds ago
Benning said Dallas decided to go in different direction with Russell instead of Hamhuis. #Canucks

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
2 years at less than 2?

Surely he is worth more than that... Is he worth 4.5? No...
But his stats do not lie, he is still a top 4 D-man in this league.
I would offer him 3.25 x 3 with a full NTC for the first 2 years and a Limited NTC in the last year.

- Codes1087


If he wanted to go to market he could probably get 4x4.5

Look what Paul Martin, Brooks Orpik, Tyutin, Bieksa, Beauchemin etc. got.

A poopty dman like Mark Stuart gets 2.6
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
Even if they draft a D man with the 1st. He will still need a couple of years to be ready.
- fiveandagame


Totally. Fans want a fire sale and want a complete rebuild, but also wants results and a cup within 2 years.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
Here we go.

"They weren't paying alot"


Well poop, zero is much better.

- Whiskey-Tango


*Looks at what Polak returned. Looks at the Kris Russell return.*

Wow, I guess teams were offering zilch.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
Totally. Fans want a fire sale and want a complete rebuild, but also wants results and a cup within 2 years.
- Codes1087


Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer now11 seconds ago
"They chose a Calgary player over our player." #Canucks

This is not Bennings or Hamhuis's fault.

Edit:
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 40s40 seconds ago
Benning says DAL deal for Hamhuis was parallel deal to what CAL got for Russell, but Stars chose the Alberta option

MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Feb 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
CHI needed money to go back, obviously Jim Benning didn't want to do so. Mark my words, Benning signs Hamhuis to an extension at a good $ + term that works for both parties within the next couple weeks.
- Codes1087


Everyone and their brother thought Hamhuis would re-sign in Vancouver anyway. Why not rent him to Dallas or Chicago for a few months and get an asset or two instead of sitting on your hands? Makes zero sense.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
If he wanted to go to market he could probably get 4x4.5

Look what Paul Martin, Brooks Orpik, Tyutin, Bieksa, Beauchemin etc. got.

A poopty dman like Mark Stuart gets 2.6

- Lindenis#1



Hamhuis being 33 will definitely affect his term. Given his recent deal of a 4.5 million cap, I don't think it would be unreasonable to offer him 3 x 3.25 - 4 mill. I really want to see Hamhuis back in the Canucks top 4 for the next few years. It totally would have been nice to see Hamhuis win a cup, get a good fetch of picks, and re-sign him in the summer but we need to stop sulking and get over it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:26 PM ET
Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer now11 seconds ago
"They chose a Calgary player over our player." #Canucks

This is not Bennings or Hamhuis's fault.

- fiveandagame


I never put blame to either.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
Everyone and their brother thought Hamhuis would re-sign in Vancouver anyway. Why not rent him to Dallas or Chicago for a few months and get an asset or two instead of sitting on your hands? Makes zero sense.
- MartiniMan


I am not Benning, I am not sure how you want me to answer that?

The pieces coming back were obviously not what they liked.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks now6 seconds ago
Vrbata was asked for a trade list, "he gave us a fair list and we talked to all those teams. They went another direction" - Benning


Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
@doomocrat
Per Dreger Benning upped price, Dallas matched. Benning went for more at deadline, was rejected. Wow.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
"called every team on Vrbata's list and no concrete offers"

"we didn't get an offer"

fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
I never put blame to either.
- Codes1087



Sorry, quoted you by accident
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:28 PM ET
Hamhuis being 33 will definitely affect his term. Given his recent deal of a 4.5 million cap, I don't think it would be unreasonable to offer him 3 x 3.25 - 4 mill. I really want to see Hamhuis back in the Canucks top 4 for the next few years. It totally would have been nice to see Hamhuis win a cup, get a good fetch of picks, and re-sign him in the summer but we need to stop sulking and get over it.
- Codes1087


All those players are older than Hamhuis. They got more money and nice term.

Unless he really wants to stay, he can command a fat contract. And Benning is great at that.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:28 PM ET
Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer now11 seconds ago
"They chose a Calgary player over our player." #Canucks

This is not Bennings or Hamhuis's fault.

Edit:
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 40s40 seconds ago
Benning says DAL deal for Hamhuis was parallel deal to what CAL got for Russell, but Stars chose the Alberta option

- fiveandagame


The other quote to paraphase was that Dallas circled back and made an offer but it didn't make sense to us (the canucks)
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:28 PM ET
@doomocrat
Per Dreger Benning upped price, Dallas matched. Benning went for more at deadline, was rejected. Wow.

- Lindenis#1



I stopped reading after "per Dreger"
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:28 PM ET
2 years at less than 2?

Surely he is worth more than that... Is he worth 4.5? No...
But his stats do not lie, he is still a top 4 D-man in this league.
I would offer him 3.25 x 3 with a full NTC for the first 2 years and a Limited NTC in the last year.

- Codes1087


He's going to get more than $4 million.
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