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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:44 PM ET
Pretty much,

i like some of what he was preaching, but got dam how do you not pull the trigger.

Also what caught my ear, "We didn't get many calls on Higgins and Prust"

So does that mean you got a couple calls for those two bums?

- Whiskey-Tango


It's hard to believe people rip Gillis for getting the 9th overall pick for Schneider but defend Benning not getting any deals done.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:45 PM ET
Wow that's everything there. That's hockey right there in those charts.

Serious though, trust your GM. He knows what he's doing and you're not wasting any hope on supporting him.

- fry


who are you arguing with? Me or the GM? Do you think that telling me who the better player is has ANY impact on Jim Benning's decision? Not sure what you are trying to accomplish here cause frankly, I don't really have much say in the decisions...
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:45 PM ET
Irfaan GaffarVerified account
‏@sportsnetirf
Benning says the #Canucks offered to retain salary when discussing deals with Hamhuis and Vrbata.

Either Benning is straight up lying or he's trying to cover his ass

- Lindenis#1


I don't think so. He pretty much came out and shed light on everything, knowing full well alot of its going to come back to bite him hard.

After today, he's due for some criticism, but i don't doubt his honesty.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 29 @ 5:45 PM ET
People are commenting too fast, slow down, I can't keep up.

I think this is a record for number of posts.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:46 PM ET
It's hard to believe people rip Gillis for getting the 9th overall pick for Schneider but defend Benning not getting any deals done.
- golfingsince

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:46 PM ET
Irfaan GaffarVerified account
‏@sportsnetirf
Benning says the #Canucks offered to retain salary when discussing deals with Hamhuis and Vrbata.

Either Benning is straight up lying or he's trying to cover his ass

- Lindenis#1


Why lie?

Also read between the lines thats retaining salary on an expiring contract.
Night n day if had to eat salary coming back eg Bickell:
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:46 PM ET
who cares about returns? the fact that our GM obviously cant sell a player(you talk a player up) to another GM is more concerning. Benning seems gutless.
- Crazybagoham


Ignore that other GMs had spent weeks putting assets they wanted to sell into favourable positions to boost their trade value while Vrbata was on the 4th line
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:46 PM ET
I say Nill was playing JB n it didn't work n Russell did not come cheap.
Lots of poker is played on the TDL n Nill didn't get a bargain for a UFA
wanting a big pay hike. I figure he low-balled JB or wanted us to take
on salary. If salary with any term then its a no deal.

- Nighthawk


Maybe a lowball because Dallas knows Hamhuis is just going to return to Van? As opposed to Russel who might have a chance to resign ( and why wouldnt he if they go deep in the playoffs)
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:47 PM ET
Ignore that other GMs had spent weeks putting assets they wanted to sell into favourable positions to boost their trade value while Vrbata was on the 4th line
- Lindenis#1


I'm hoping we get to hear the real reason why Vrbata stopped playing with the twins.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:48 PM ET
Why lie?

Also read between the lines thats retaining salary on an expiring contract.
Night n day if had to eat salary coming back eg Bickell:

- Nighthawk

After wasting millions in utica with prust and higgens i bet FA didnt want to do it again. No problem with that. Fact is we have way to many bad contracts but it would have been a start to at least move guys out for 7th round picks even.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 29 @ 5:48 PM ET


It might be quite funny in here tonight.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:48 PM ET
Ignore that other GMs had spent weeks putting assets they wanted to sell into favourable positions to boost their trade value while Vrbata was on the 4th line
- Lindenis#1


So is he now on the 1st line to justify keeping him?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:49 PM ET
So is he now on the 1st line to justify keeping him?
- golfingsince


I could see this happening, gives JB a chance to resign him at 6m a year, really cripple this team
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 29 @ 5:49 PM ET
After wasting millions in utica with prust and higgens i bet FA didnt want to do it again. No problem with that. Fact is we have way to many bad contracts but it would have been a start to at least move guys out for 7th round picks even.
- mauryballstein

NO ONE WAS OFFERING 7TH ROUND PICKS!!!!!
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:49 PM ET
So is he now on the 1st line to justify keeping him?
- golfingsince

looks that way
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:50 PM ET
NO ONE WAS OFFERING 7TH ROUND PICKS!!!!!
- A_SteamingLombardi

How do you know?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:50 PM ET
NO ONE WAS OFFERING 7TH ROUND PICKS!!!!!
- A_SteamingLombardi


so you be a proper GM, and you make them offer it.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 29 @ 5:50 PM ET
I don't think so. He pretty much came out and shed light on everything, knowing full well alot of its going to come back to bite him hard.

After today, he's due for some criticism, but i don't doubt his honesty.

- Whiskey-Tango


This is true, there is a lot of disappointment that nothing happened, but Benning seems as honest as they come.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 29 @ 5:51 PM ET
Ignore that other GMs had spent weeks putting assets they wanted to sell into favourable positions to boost their trade value while Vrbata was on the 4th line
- Lindenis#1

The ol' pump and dump maneuver
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:52 PM ET
This is true, there is a lot of disappointment that nothing happened, but Benning seems as honest as they come.
- Makita


Honestly useless ;.; maybe Trev starts to take control on trades? Common with those President of hockey ops guys, is it just JB doing the trades?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:52 PM ET
NO ONE WAS OFFERING 7TH ROUND PICKS!!!!!
- A_SteamingLombardi

CHICAGO
BLACKHAWKS
D Tim Jackman
2017 7th Round Pick
ANAHEIM
DUCKS
F Corey Tropp

yes they were.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 29 @ 5:52 PM ET
Ray Ferraro on TSN Trade Center got quite animated.

Ferraro "I have no idea what vancouver is doing. There is no consistent or coherent thought process to guide most of their moves"
---
Ferraro "They’re an aging team with a collection of depreciating assets that they should move. I just don't understand what this team is doing at the moment"
---
Lebrun cuts in "Hamhuis was a tough piece to move"
---
Ferraro "Even if they couldn't move Hamhuis, you cannot tell me other players on that team like Vrbata could not fetch something with salary retained, I'm not buying it"

Rest of the Panel nods.

- classic321



Ferraro is right. I am upset about the lack of inability to do anything but I am not pissed.in general.

I do have many questions about the Canucks . This is the second year in a row that we got absolutely nothing for expiring contracts.

This ownership and management still think we are playoff contenders and after two years still have not identified if we are retooling or rebuilding.

We lost our second player today on waivers . This one was inexcusable .There was no need to lose a player if no movement was going to be made. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Ferraro is a Canuck fan and he is bang on about not moving old guys and bringing them back.

We are the bottom 5 D in the league and all I hear is bring back one of the main pieces , an old guy who isn't tough and cant score.

We make the beds we sleep in.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 29 @ 5:53 PM ET
so you be a proper GM, and you make them offer it.
- Crazybagoham


Ahhhh good ol Hammy
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 5:54 PM ET
CHICAGO
BLACKHAWKS
D Tim Jackman
2017 7th Round Pick
ANAHEIM
DUCKS
F Corey Tropp

yes they were.

- Retinalz

That was the exact trade I was thinking about. Bart must have been good enough for a 7th, then give his minutes to pedan.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 29 @ 5:54 PM ET
so you be a proper GM, and you make them offer it.
- Crazybagoham

They called every team on Vrbata's list and got no offers, no offers = no interest.
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