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WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 29 @ 6:02 PM ET
I understand people are disappointed. Hell, I certainly am. I was saying for the last 2 months that everyone is overvaluing our assets like we always do in van. Nobody wanted Vrbata and it sounds like we weren't getting offers for Hamhuis either. If Dallas offered a 4th round pick at the end of the deadline I'm glad we didn't make the move. (frank) Dallas, it's not Bennings job to help them at the deadline. I'd rather resign Hamhuis for two years BUT NTC
- CanuckDon


He would start a frenzy if he took that deal. "Benning is a push over", "JB cant negotiate worth poop", "Might as well kept him instead, tells the rest of the league we will take garbage"...
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
No just needs a snake oil sales pitch apparently any GM can do...
- Makita

Treliving had no problem selling a worse player in Russell :p
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
I understand people are disappointed. Hell, I certainly am. I was saying for the last 2 months that everyone is overvaluing our assets like we always do in van. Nobody wanted Vrbata and it sounds like we weren't getting offers for Hamhuis either. If Dallas offered a 4th round pick at the end of the deadline I'm glad we didn't make the move. (frank) Dallas, it's not Bennings job to help them at the deadline. I'd rather resign Hamhuis for two years BUT NTC
- CanuckDon



You are bang on about we overvalue our players. I know no one would want Vrbata. We need to change our roster. We have a bad roster with unattractive players.

I am sure we could have at least gotten a seventh for Bartowski or Weber.

I wouldn't sign Hamhuis though and I would also try to upgrade on Edler. Hansen should be also on the trade list this year.

Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the fan base in Vancouver isn't capable of handling the ups and downs of the franchise. I said yesterday that I didn't think JB was going to be able to move Vrbata or Hamhuis and that he was likely getting low balled. What would be the point of moving either of them for low picks? Think people, if JB was willing to dump prime assets for trash, when some people on this board (the anti-Benningites) already think he loses every trade, how much worse does that make him? Yes it's disappointing, but ultimately, pointless. We didn't take on salary, we didn't dump any prospects, and we kept all our picks. There's a good chance that even though we didn't do any deadline deals of significance, JB will do most of it at the draft. He might even be able to trade negotiating rights for something for Hamhuis and Vrbata. The point is, half of you sound like children crying because mommy and daddy didn't get you ice-cream, or wouldn't let you play XBOX instead of doing homework.

- DariusKnight


Thanks for the input dad
If only this fanbase was as wise and all-knowing as you.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
He would start a frenzy if he took that deal. "Benning is a push over", "JB cant negotiate worth poop", "Might as well kept him instead, tells the rest of the league we will take garbage"...
- WhiteLie


Vrbata is garbage this year and has been a dyck with his attitude. I hope they bring up Grenier and see what he does in Vrbatas spot . Let Vrbata be a healthy scratch.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
I'm starting to think Benning decided that this deadline was where he was going to take a stand on his trade reputation. Either get full value or take nothing at all.

Way to go Jim!!

You sure showed everyone.

- golfingsince




That's hilarious because its quite literally the only avenue that makes sense.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
let's all just pray management is going to ramp it up during the summer when things are easier. 5 UFAs= nada in return.

Backstrom (the goalie)
+
2016 6th to Calgary

for

Jones,D to Minn
but ya, the picks arent available....
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 29 @ 6:08 PM ET


That's hilarious because its quite literally the only avenue that makes sense.

- Whiskey-Tango


It really is, that's what made me think it.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:09 PM ET
No just needs a snake oil sales pitch apparently any GM can do...
- Makita


To be fair, Hamhuis and Vrbata are relatively new to the league. Benning should have pieced together some of their "best" YouTube highlights and done a presentation to teams around the league so they understand our assets better. #fireBenning
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 29 @ 6:09 PM ET
No other way to argue in a hockey forum with the fans of the opposing players. I don't buy into fancy stats but if fry is going to say something stupid, he needs to know it will be met with an argument
- Codes1087


Yeah I get what your doing ....I just hate using charts I guess .....One could argue 4 G 11 A is much better than 6 A
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:09 PM ET
Thanks for the input dad
If only this fanbase was as wise and all-knowing as you.

- Whiskey-Tango

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 29 @ 6:09 PM ET


That's hilarious because its quite literally the only avenue that makes sense.

- Whiskey-Tango



He is a smart hockey guy, but you have to question his ability to get things done.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Yeah I get what your doing ....I just hate using charts I guess .....One could argue 4 G 11 A is much better than 6 A
- Redmile247


Pfft thanks for the simple stats. Did your dinosaur tell you those?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
The sad fact is that we could still have done that....

A re-signed Hamhuis or a re-signed Hamhuis + a 4th.

Not a hard decision to make.

- Whiskey-Tango


I appreciate your POV but I disagree. I'd rather not help a team out. Anything below a 2nd round pick and I'd say go (frank) yourselves. It would be unwise for Benning to dump hammer for a 4th. He was wise to stand his ground in my opinion. If we just have a firesale on assets people will continue to lowball the organization
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Benning says he's grateful for acquiring Larsen.
It's worse than we thought.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:12 PM ET
People are commenting too fast, slow down, I can't keep up.

I think this is a record for number of posts.

- Scooby_Doo


So what's the over/under for the number of pages on this post before it breaks 250?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
On a positive note,

We get to watch Nylander officially bust tonight
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
Yeah I get what your doing ....I just hate using charts I guess .....One could argue 4 G 11 A is much better than 6 A
- Redmile247


In the end your gm got a stellar haul for Russell. Hamhuis was out a while with a broken face but has been superb since his return
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
So what's the over/under for the number of pages on this post before it breaks 250?

- allsports

depends on when Carol releases another blog
Werdnaknows
Joined: 12.06.2014

Feb 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
Treliving had no problem selling a worse player in Russell :p
- Crazybagoham

A few years back i would say ya hamhuis is better but now no way russell is way more valuable
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
You are bang on about we overvalue our players. I know no one would want Vrbata. We need to change our roster. We have a bad roster with unattractive players.

I am sure we could have at least gotten a seventh for Bartowski or Weber.

I wouldn't sign Hamhuis though and I would also try to upgrade on Edler. Hansen should be also on the trade list this year.

- VANTEL


So if we look at the deadline as objectively as we can this must mean that no other NHL or AHL team wants what we have.........it's a lot worse than any of us could have imagined
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
I am not surprised our core players are sh!t.

How many teams said they they went in a different direction than Hamhuis? Something Canucks should also do.

- VANTEL


Wouldn't ever call vrbata a core player.
He was a 2yr UFA signing n had an expiry date.
His play cost us this year with us having less goals n another playoff spot.
Whether we didn't want a 1 n done is irrelevant when he didn't earn his 5m
this season. The fact all the kids n Hansen bumped him down is what cost us
getting any return for him before it can be laid at JB's feet.

Once again it was a very dull n lacklustre TDL overall other than TO lol
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
depends on when Carol releases another blog
- Crazybagoham

mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Feb 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
depends on when Carol releases another blog
- Crazybagoham

if nothing happens is there really a point in carol writing another blog
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Pretty sure Benning just said we could of gotten a 3rd but that felt Hamhuis has more value to this team right now.

I'm not going to pretend that I wouldn't of ripped Benning if that was the deal, but it certainly sounds like he turned down a last minute deal.

He also confirmed that Dallas contacted them prior to making a deal with Calgary and that Canucks were not the ones who turned it down. That sounds like Benning counter offered but Dallas balked and decided to go with Russell instead.
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