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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Trade Deadline: Hamhuis Stays, Adam Cracknell to Edmonton
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
It's usually a great time to go see the team when they suck and are playing the youth. Good seats for really cheap.
- golfingsince


I can't afford to go otherwise, would bring my son along too, sucks to be me I guess...
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:07 PM ET
Yep, I think the consensus is, play the kids. Sooner or later, we will see it. People want to see the kids and there are tickets available, I might go to a couple games if they are cheap.
- hillbillydeluxe

You can get lower bowl seats for $25 for tonight if you want
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
If your putting stammer and lucic with guys like gaunce and pedan why are they signing with you ? Seems like only one option is viable
- Redmile247

No Sh!t,

Hey would you rather...Stamkos, Crosby, Malkin, OV, Pedan and Tanev...or
Granlund, Etem, Vey, Hamhuis, Edler and Higgins....because you know the second choice is where were at and the first choice is where we should be
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
every year the canucks are terrible, I think I can get some tickets for cheap. Ownership group needs to stop catering for yuppies in the city. You look at the lower bowl, maybe 1/10 are actually in a canucks jersey, rest are wearing clothes for the club. You look at calgary/washington/mtl lower bowl all you see is red. Lower th damn tickets so us real fans can come FA, there's no money in BC right now and the average fan cant actually go and enjoy a game.
- Crazybagoham


Calgary has great fan support with their sea of red, but I believe MTL has seen a dip in attendance this season, maybe not when they were off to their best start in franchise history, but with Price being injured followed by their downward spiral, there have been numerous stories around all the empty seats there.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
You absolutely sign Dan Hamhuis if he is willing to resign. Hes a top 4 D-man who wants to wear a blue and green sweater.
- Codes1087


This is my feeling as well
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
You can get lower bowl seats for $25 for tonight if you want
- nucks_94


If my son didn't have an evening class, I wouldn't mind seeing Tavares and future Canuck Hamonic...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
So if you can trade one of pizza or edler and resign Dan you say no thanks ?
- Redmile247

I'm ok with Spizza for now and replacing Edler's minutes will be tougher than people realize... having said that I am not a big Edler fan and I really believe it's time to move on from Hamhuis. I am all for a Sbisa/Edler trade (potentially) and NOT bringing Hamhuis back. I get the sentimental attachment to Hamhuis here but it's painfully obvious that all ties to the 2011 core need to severed and that may include the Sedins one day.
Hammer is an aging...injury prone vet who produces basically zero points who can barely hang in the top 4. Why bring him back on the cheap to play 40 games/year and add a small amount of mentorship? This would be a backwards move IMO and possibly a strike 2 on current MNGT which could really backfire.

While I like a lot of the moves this MNGT group has made I'm not sure resigning Hamhuis sends the right message.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'm ok with Spizza for now and replacing Edler's minutes will be tougher than people realize... having said that I am not a big Edler fan and I really believe it's time to move on from Hamhuis. I am all for a Sbisa/Edler trade (potentially) and NOT bringing Hamhuis back. I get the sentimental attachment to Hamhuis here but it's painfully obvious that all ties to the 2011 core need to severed and that may include the Sedins one day.
Hammer is an aging...injury prone vet who produces basically zero points who can barely hang in the top 4. Why bring him back on the cheap to play 40 games/year and add a small amount of mentorship? This would be a backwards move IMO and possibly a strike 2 on current MNGT which could really backfire.

While I like a lot of the moves this MNGT group has made I'm not sure resigning Hamhuis sends the right message.

- LordHumungous


I dont know if I trust you, If you value Edlers defensive prowess over hamhuis's
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
[quote=MaWLz]According to a highly placed Stars source, the Stars and Canucks had a deal in place. It wasn’t exactly the same as the trade that eventually sent Calgary’s Kris Russell to Dallas but it was “similar.”

The deal was taken to Canucks ownership. Ownership requested more. The Stars rejected that request and made the trade with the Flames.

Dallas then came back to the Canucks with a lesser offer for Hamhuis — believed to be a draft pick in 2017 — but were turned down.

“They lost the deal,” the source said. “The deal Calgary got was pretty much available to Vancouver.”

Interesting...imagine that, Benning covering for the guy that signs his pay cheque



- CanuckDon

Unless you release this highly placed sources name I call Bullsh!t. Benning put himself in front of a camera, said his piece. Let's see the highly placed source do the same, until then it's bullsh!t to feed and sell crap
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:23 PM ET
No Sh!t,

Hey would you rather...Stamkos, Crosby, Malkin, OV, Pedan and Tanev...or
Granlund, Etem, Vey, Hamhuis, Edler and Higgins....because you know the second choice is where were at and the first choice is where we should be

- Makita


Much like the flames did a few years back the Canucks are transitioning to a younger team ...and before the higher end prospects are ready you have to add the vey granlund etc types to fill the gap ...give it time
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:24 PM ET
My mistake, there's 5 of us, I forgot Makita.
- Marwood


(frank) man I was crushed to be left out...but you've made up for
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:24 PM ET
[quote=MaWLz]According to a highly placed Stars source, the Stars and Canucks had a deal in place. It wasn’t exactly the same as the trade that eventually sent Calgary’s Kris Russell to Dallas but it was “similar.”

The deal was taken to Canucks ownership. Ownership requested more. The Stars rejected that request and made the trade with the Flames.

Dallas then came back to the Canucks with a lesser offer for Hamhuis — believed to be a draft pick in 2017 — but were turned down.

“They lost the deal,” the source said. “The deal Calgary got was pretty much available to Vancouver.”

Interesting...imagine that, Benning covering for the guy that signs his pay cheque



- CanuckDon


This has been spread around by a few Canucks sources as well. Ownership has the final say in all hockey transactions and it is believed that ownership wanted more from Nill. I have seen 3 or 4 Canucks media guys say the exact same thing. Either way, lets please move on from TDL.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:25 PM ET
I dont know if I trust you, If you value Edlers defensive prowess over hamhuis's
- Crazybagoham

It's not that I feel Edler is better defensively it is the minutes Edler puts up. Very tough to replace which largely contributes to Edler's gaffes out there. Edler plays almost 5-8 more MPG than Hamhuis which may make Edler seem worse defensively....but really they are kind of on par. As of right now w are noticing Edler out of the lineup big time...Hamhuis comes/goes in the lineup and we survive.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:26 PM ET
So how does aqualoonie put this grass fire out? Rabid anger filled fans running away from this franchise , season ticket renewals start Friday . Aqualini kicks his entire management team , players , corporate sponsers , local media and the entire fan base squarely in the nuts......how do you fix this mess? Aqua man has a plan! It's time to switch to the Johnny Canuck logo/jersey. That will bring the dollars back In...that will make the fans love us again !
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:27 PM ET
This is good right or are we still trying to make the playoffs?
- hillbillydeluxe


Hey do you think Sutter and Edler will be back in time for the big playoff push
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm ok with Spizza for now and replacing Edler's minutes will be tougher than people realize... having said that I am not a big Edler fan and I really believe it's time to move on from Hamhuis. I am all for a Sbisa/Edler trade (potentially) and NOT bringing Hamhuis back. I get the sentimental attachment to Hamhuis here but it's painfully obvious that all ties to the 2011 core need to severed and that may include the Sedins one day.
Hammer is an aging...injury prone vet who produces basically zero points who can barely hang in the top 4. Why bring him back on the cheap to play 40 games/year and add a small amount of mentorship? This would be a backwards move IMO and possibly a strike 2 on current MNGT which could really backfire.

While I like a lot of the moves this MNGT group has made I'm not sure resigning Hamhuis sends the right message.

- LordHumungous


So you want them to trade edler and not resign hamhuis ...unless you get a D man back that could back fire terribly for your D core ...I can buy the idea of just one of edler/hamhuis going but both ?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
This has been spread around by a few Canucks sources as well. Ownership has the final say in all hockey transactions and it is believed that ownership wanted more from Nill. I have seen 3 or 4 Canucks media guys say the exact same thing. Either way, lets please move on from TDL.
- Codes1087


to stay on that topic a little longer , this Bob McKenzie interview might provide a little perspective, on how it all (possibly) shook out. His speculation is as good as anyone else's

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/v...-villain-in-this-1.446075

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
Unless you release this highly placed sources name I call Bullsh!t. Benning put himself in front of a camera, said his piece. Let's see the highly placed source do the same, until then it's bullsh!t to feed and sell crap
- Makita


It's not my quote. I'm simply responding to the post. No idea who the source was
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:30 PM ET
Apparently there is only two of us who feel this way.
- Marwood

Count me in.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Mar 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
Hey do you think Sutter and Edler will be back in time for the big playoff push
- Makita

i just hope they get their game legs back by game 1 of the first round
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
The morning after.

I think Canucks screwed up yesterday. 100 pages 2500 posts in 24 hours hints that I am right.

Twitter and the Airwaves were screaming Fire Benning Fire Linden.

But the biggest indication that we screwed up was that resident troll PHucker was back posting in his glory. That is how I know things have gone really bad is when he comes here to gloat. Then you know you are at Rock Bottom .


I think yesterday we took a turn called Jumping the Shark Tank from the sitcom Happy Days.

We have run out of ideas so we will bring back the aging Dman to build a bubble team even though we could have had 17 mil in cap space and a roster spot to fill with a proper RHD.

Canucks youth movement took a kick to the nuts yesterday. Today is another day.

- VANTEL


These things are not mutually exclusive. Vrbata will not be back next season, agree? Hamhuis "wants" to be backk, but Benning has given no indication that he plans to sign him. Prust will not be back, maybe not even in the NHL next season. I'm not sure if the bridge is burnt with Higgins or not. Maybe he trains hard and wins a spot back, probably not. I think we all agree that this team won't be contending for a Stanley Cup next season either, so suffering through one more year of Burrows won't be that big a deal. I'm not even disappointed that Hansen didn't get moved at his peak. Based on the deals that went down, I think the very best they might have done is a single second round pick, which will turn into a productive NHL'er less then 50% of the time. Like Burrows, Hansen has one more year, and if he has a decent season there is always the option of moving him next deadline.

What I'm saying is you are still going to get your cap space, which I hope they don't use next year on anything more then 1 year deals.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:32 PM ET
Hey do you think Sutter and Edler will be back in time for the big playoff push
- Makita


I wouln't mind Sutter back, but I think they should sit Hank for the balance of the season... that fecker is so selfish to put the team first and wanting to play through injury.

(RIP Father Jack )
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
Unless you release this highly placed sources name I call Bullsh!t. Benning put himself in front of a camera, said his piece. Let's see the highly placed source do the same, until then it's bullsh!t to feed and sell crap
- Makita

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
This has been spread around by a few Canucks sources as well. Ownership has the final say in all hockey transactions and it is believed that ownership wanted more from Nill. I have seen 3 or 4 Canucks media guys say the exact same thing. Either way, lets please move on from TDL.
- Codes1087

This was posted at 01:37 this morning by boonerbuck;
I just read 3 of the province stories. Not surprisingly, there is a tiny mention of JB side of the story and then paragraph after paragraph quoting a unnamed source close to Dallas, being reported by a unnamed media member that they dont even credit.... it it goes on and on... and like a wave it rips through the media and fans think that represents more smoke than a single unnamed source.... even though it's still just a single unnamed source.

And unless these unnamed sources are willing to stand in front of a camera, or put their stories and names in print, so that they can be analyzed like JB did, it's pure speculation and BS, either put up or shut up
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
It's not my quote. I'm simply responding to the post. No idea who the source was
- CanuckDon

No worries Don, I wasn't pointing out your post, I was just trying to infer that believing unnamed sources as verbatim is...well kind of (frank)ed up.
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