i have to ask b/c i honestly would like to know.

what are you basing this opinion on? i ask b/c i watch hockey. to be more specific, i watch the nhl. i don't watch junior (a few games during the wjhc though). i don't watch the ahl and i don't watch ncaa.

i say that b/c i don't really have an opinion on our draft picks aside from the cursory "i'd prefer this guy to that guy," based on the 2 or 3 articles i've read. i don't however go crazy about this guy being a sleeper or that guy being a bust b/c i haven't watched enough.

and i don't really like basing my opinion on other peoples' opinions which is basically what i'd be doing with draft picks prospects.

so back to my question: why are you so sure that the trade is bad?

i get that the draft projections show shinkaruk to be more of an offensive dynamo but based on stats, granlund has produced just as much if not more at the same points in his development.

so what makes you so adamant?
- RealityChecker

I've actually watched a few Utica games this year and watched their playoff run last year. He's definitely a boom or bust prospect, but he has legit 2nd line potential if his game translates to the NHL. He was by far Utica's best offensive forward this year, especially on the PP.

Granlund has nice AHL production for sure, but he was waiver eligible next year and hasn't been able to crack a bottom 10 NHL team despite being given more opportunities than Shinkaruk has.

Calgary would have been in a tough position next year with him being waiver eligible and obviously not impressing them. Similar to Vey and LA. We bailed both teams out by paying a premium. If they even acquired Granlund for a 3rd and Grenier or something, it would be much easier to get on board.

Boone freakin Jenner


Ok I think I'm ready now. I spent yesterday golfing in a little mini-tourney with the boys, blind partners, lowest net scores win….Rob and I won


Good to see some of you old posters back posting, please continue, some may not agree with me but it makes for better conversation when we have differing opinions. I like debate because to others points of view has actually swayed my opinion…yes I've been wrong before.

But I still know the X's and O's better than Nucker ever will lol
- LeftCoaster

You are a Master Debator

Benning said the only offer he got was from Dallas (last minute) and it didn't make sense for the organizTion. Why do you think it was better than a 3rd? Let me guess, you are speculating. The Stars chose Russel and then made a last ditch slap in the Canucks face offer. Benning was right to tell them to (frank) off. He also said he would have happily taken picks in the trade. If the offer wouldn't help the club say no. This is a business and it doesn't benefit the Canucks organization to help out Galardi
- CanuckDon

It may have been smart to let Hamhuis walk for nothing. It sounds counter intuitive but this is how Brian Burke put it after he did not trade Cammellari. It basically send a message to the rest of the league that you management group is willing to trade assets for next to nothing if they are on expiring contracts. Burke later credited not trading Cammy with the teams ability to get a good return for Glencross last season. This could be Benning's line of thinking.

It may have been smart to let Hamhuis walk for nothing. It sounds counter intuitive but this is how Brian Burke put it after he did not trade Cammellari. It basically send a message to the rest of the league that you management group is willing to trade assets for next to nothing if they are on expiring contracts. Burke later credited not trading Cammy with the teams ability to get a good return for Glencross last season. This could be Benning's line of thinking.
- flamminghead

THIS

I've actually watched a few Utica games this year and watched their playoff run last year. He's definitely a boom or bust prospect, but he has legit 2nd line potential if his game translates to the NHL. He was by far Utica's best offensive forward this year, especially on the PP.

Granlund has nice AHL production for sure, but he was waiver eligible next year and hasn't been able to crack a bottom 10 NHL team despite being given more opportunities than Shinkaruk has.

Calgary would have been in a tough position next year with him being waiver eligible and obviously not impressing them. Similar to Vey and LA. We bailed both teams out by paying a premium. If they even acquired Granlund for a 3rd and Grenier or something, it would be much easier to get on board.
- Nucker101

Granlund wasn't going to leap frog the guys in front of him, like Monahan, Bennet, Backlund....

btw Hockey's Future ranked Granlund as Flames 3rd overall top prospect... Shink wasn't even in the Canucks top 5...