golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Sbisa and Dorsett are the only physical aspects of the team. Call it what you want but at the time there wasnt much out there and they arent that bad of contracts. Sutter worries me a bit but if he plays a full season next year I will have forgotten.
+ Close to 15 million this year to change the team again and try something new. - WhatTheNuck
I'm just saying they aren't easily moveable contracts IMO. |
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WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 06.17.2014
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Aside from his lack of activity at the deadline he hasn't done anything to really set the team back. I think anyone deserves 4 years to show some the direction they are going in as it takes awhile for moves to take effect. However, I also don't think he's done anything to drastically improve the team going forward except allow youth to play. - golfingsince
This. All the contracts he did sign like Vrbata and Miller are done this year and next. You cant fault JB for finding at least competitive bandaids at the time when everyone was panicking about the team. In his short time here he has not handcuffed the team going forward at all. Time is his enemy and Id say a couple years will bring clarity to the direction he wants to go. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Also regarding JB, so some contracts went a tad bit rich....we dont have the contract savvy of gillis we got used to, nor the capologist. JBs trades were much better than the gillis trades you all hated still to this day.
BUT after all these decades we should be dancing in the streets we FINALLY have a guy who knows how to draft! Last time was pat quinn. He's the drafting guy we've never ever had, yet people are b&tchin. 2 out of 3 areas a great improvement and cupboards are getting stocked. Be happy people |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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What do you expect him to do? Turn us back into contenders in 2 years? Ill take what your smoking if you think you could do better. - WhatTheNuck
He's made some good moves, some decent moves, some questionable moves, and some we'll see moves.
Let's not pretend he's above criticism. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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I love what JB has done. Lots more money to reinvest this off-season and the same amount coming off the books the following year. The next two years will better define his direction and whether or not he can right the sinking ship. - WhatTheNuck
unless he is GM jesus people will be mad and unhappy....nah theyd still b*tch |
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WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 06.17.2014
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I'm just saying they aren't easily moveable contracts IMO. - golfingsince
Who cares? They are short term bandaids. Drafting and finding talent for cheap ie Baertschi and Larsen (next year hopefully) will be his strength. What we need badly is a trade but I feel it will be easier to move someone like Hansen or Edler. The latter being the more difficult. |
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WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 06.17.2014
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He's made some good moves, some decent moves, some questionable moves, and some we'll see moves.
Let's not pretend he's above criticism. - golfingsince
Nobody is above criticism but JB seems like the kind of guy trying new things which to be honest is exactly what is needed in our current situation. We dont have a ton of prospect depth past whats coming now and we need more NHL ready players now. Granlund, Sutter, Baertschi, and Larsen will be the guys with the chances. If they dont work out, JB will try again. What more can he do with the state of the team? |
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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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Are those great achievements?😨😨😨 - VanHockeyGuy
I think getting rid of Garrsion was a pretty crude/savy move.
Etem and Pedan forsure, we literally got those two guys for free.
One has seemingly become one of the most dangerous forwards , the other looks to be at the very worst at Top 2 dman at the AHL level, perhaps a top 4 guy in the NHL?
I know its not sexy, but you don't necessarily need to acquire a star player in order to "win" a trade. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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He's made some good moves, some decent moves, some questionable moves, and some we'll see moves.
Let's not pretend he's above criticism. - golfingsince
so 3 of 4 of those are good. Notice there are no STINKER moves. Makes him look good.
Every GM wins some loses some....so with his % hes doing awesome if you judge by that alone. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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I think getting rid of Garrsion was a pretty crude/savy move.
Etem and Pedan forsure, we literally got those two guys for free.
One has seemingly become one of the most dangerous forwards , the other looks to be at the very worst at Top 2 dman at the AHL level, perhaps a top 4 guy in the NHL?
I know its not sexy, but you don't necessarily need to acquire a star player in order to "win" a trade. - Whiskey-Tango
exactly.
When youre handed a cap strapped team what do you expect him to do? You have to acquire low salary guys. Low salary players arent superstars.
Watch him do something bigger at the draft.... besides if he signs a high profile D man everyone will be on the parade for JB again |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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The last time Benning had cap space he spent $11 million on Miller and Vrbata. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Lou 's EGO must love how Twitter has given him an outlet to second guess the Canadian hockey minds - onesmallleap
They know the big choke in FLA is coming soon. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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The last time Benning had cap space he spent $11 million on Miller and Vrbata. - golfingsince
Different mentality now. |
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WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 06.17.2014
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Different mentality now. - LordHumungous
Much different class of UFA's to chase too. |
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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 06.24.2014
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exactly.
When youre handed a cap strapped team what do you expect him to do? You have to acquire low salary guys. Low salary players arent superstars.
Watch him do something bigger at the draft.... besides if he signs a high profile D man everyone will be on the parade for JB again - SMBDragon
Im not holding my breath on the draft, Van just doesnt have the assets to pull off a big move, but im curious who hes going to sign, I really want Lucic, wouldnt mind boedker. |
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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 06.24.2014
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The last time Benning had cap space he spent $11 million on Miller and Vrbata. - golfingsince
The Vrbata signing was solid in the first season, Miller i could do without though |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Im not holding my breath on the draft, Van just doesnt have the assets to pull off a big move, but im curious who hes going to sign, I really want Lucic, wouldnt mind boedker. - phyllee
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Im not holding my breath on the draft, Van just doesnt have the assets to pull off a big move, but im curious who hes going to sign, I really want Lucic, wouldnt mind boedker. - phyllee
Neither are coming here. |
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WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 06.17.2014
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My man. - dbot
Lucic would be a good addition and could make some room for the young guys. Depends on term vs money but we have room for someone like him. |
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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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Much different class of UFA's to chase too. - WhatTheNuck
Ya, there are some interesting forwards.
Okposo or lucic would be an interesting add to the second line.
They would all be seeking absurd term though |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Someone suggested recently JB's GM/Negotiating skills need some work, which is a fair assessment. Bringing on a "senior advisor" who has been there makes total sense. The management team consists of great talent scouts. Battle savvy GM's that know how the old boys club works, is what's needed. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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I'd much rather hold on to the cap space than throw it at a UFA unless it's for a guy like Hedman. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Im not holding my breath on the draft, Van just doesnt have the assets to pull off a big move, but im curious who hes going to sign, I really want Lucic, wouldnt mind boedker. - phyllee
Hey, we can still trade the exclusive negotiating rights for Vrbata & Hamhuis for..... |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Ya, there are some interesting forwards.
Okposo or lucic would be an interesting add to the second line.
They would all be seeking absurd term though - Whiskey-Tango
That's the main problem, and will hamper any proper rebuild. I would HATE to sign Lucic, that guy is going to decline so fast. It'll keep the Canucks a bubble team to sign any of those mid-upper tier guys to a long term contract (which is what they'll all be seeking). 1 or 2 years? Sure. I didn't mind the Vrbata or Miller ones, and hell Miller may even get flipped at the next TDL, so things like that are fine with me.
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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That's the main problem, and will hamper any proper rebuild. I would HATE to sign Lucic, that guy is going to decline so fast. It'll keep the Canucks a bubble team to sign any of those mid-upper tier guys to a long term contract (which is what they'll all be seeking). 1 or 2 years? Sure. I didn't mind the Vrbata or Miller ones, and hell Miller may even get flipped at the next TDL, so things like that are fine with me. - NewYorkNuck
Not Lucic, but that kind of player, younger. |
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