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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 12:51 PM ET
The Offsprings's "Smash" is a fantastic album.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:58 PM ET
its funny how the NHL will never accept a Flyer prospect/player deserving of any awards or recognition
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
The Offsprings's "Smash" is a fantastic album.
- jmatchett383


werd
Listened to it yesterday
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
You know what else is terrible? They guy that traded for, and then signed MacDonald.
- PLindbergh31

Yeah, he shouldn't be the GM any mo....oh, okay.

Someone upthread suggesting that was Hexy, because he wasn't GM until May and the trade and signing happened before that.

Or are we all deciding that when the Flyers were doing that they already had decided to kick Homer upstairs? I'm never sure how deep the conspiracy theories on transition go here. There's so much paranoia.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
Again, a jab calls for a double shot the the head? Players shove all the time, most players don't answer like that.

Much like a clean check attempt doesn't call for a cross check to the head.

- jmatchett383



Imagine the outrage if McDavid had jabbed Simmonds in the shoulder and Simmonds responded with a jab to the face
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
Yeah, he shouldn't be the GM any mo....oh, okay.
- bodiva88


Hextall is doing a very good job so far. The only mark on his resume is the Hartnell/Umberger trade. I understood the premise of that trade, but it has been an unmitigated disaster.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
its funny how the NHL will never accept a Flyer prospect/player deserving of any awards or recognition
- vejim


You mean like Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent, Bill Barber, Mark Howe, Eric Lindros, Ian Laperriere, Tim Kerr, Reggie Leach, Ron Hextall, Dave Poulin, Pelle Lindberg, Bob Froese, Darren Jensen, Roman Cechmanek, Robert Esche, Brian Boucher, Thomas Eriksson, Simon Gagne, Janne Niinimaa, Joni Pitkanen, Mikael Renberg, Chris Therien, Gene Hart, Fred Shero, and Ed Snider (last 3 not players)?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
you hate them because of the scuffle? really?..



- yakattack



says a fan from a fan base that was calling for manning's death for hurting McDavid.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
He was being sincere...
- OilDerek


Ahhh... I shouldn't have assumed he was being a Richard...

You know what they say when you assume. Makes an ass out of u and me
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
Hextall is doing a very good job so far. The only mark on his resume is the Hartnell/Umberger trade. I understood the premise of that trade, but it has been an unmitigated disaster.
- PLindbergh31


I was thinking the same thing. But last night, my friend told me this:

After next season, we will need to give Ghost and one (if not both) goalies a new deal, as well as resigning MDZ if we want to. By then, the extensions to Couturier, Voracek, and (likely) Schenn will have kicked in. That extra $4.6M of cap space saved by the trade will be key at that point.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
You mean like Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent, Bill Barber, Mark Howe, Eric Lindros, Ian Laperriere, Tim Kerr, Reggie Leach, Ron Hextall, Dave Poulin, Pelle Lindberg, Bob Froese, Darren Jensen, Roman Cechmanek, Robert Esche, Brian Boucher, Thomas Eriksson, Simon Gagne, Janne Niinimaa, Joni Pitkanen, Mikael Renberg, Chris Therien, Gene Hart, Fred Shero, and Ed Snider (last 3 not players)?
- jmatchett383

And it isn't like Gost is up against chopped liver for the Calder. There's a guy who's changed the Red Wings views on development, a guy whose contributing mightily to a conference leading team, and a guy whose so good he may get it playing only 1/2 a season.

The Calder has been won by a D only 11 times in 99 years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
Ahhh... I shouldn't have assumed he was being a Richard...

You know what they say when you assume. Makes an ass out of u and me

- benjichronic


Mouths are like bumholes.

They're large gaping holes that usually smell bad.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
And it isn't like Gost is up against chopped liver for the Calder. There's a guy who's changed the Red Wings views on development, a guy whose contributing mightily to a conference leading team, and a guy whose so good he may get it playing only 1/2 a season.

The Calder has been won by a D only 11 times in 99 years.

- bodiva88


When Tyler Myers won it, his biggest competition was Matt Duchesne. If Panarin, Larkin, McDavid, and Eichel had been in that class, he'd have had trouble being a finalist.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
His stats are just so much better than the others. He plays a more Russian/modern form of hockey, which sometimes leads to ugly turnovers. For the most part, though, he helps the Flyers keep possession as they move through the neutral zone. For all of his gaffs, the team is decidedly better when he's on the ice. Going from him to Manning is eye opening.
- PhillySportsGuy


Question: can you or anyone think of one other bad play he made? Since he was so bad last game as many have said. Besides the McDavid goal where he accelerated unimpeded from his own zone, which I'm sure someone like Bundy would've halted no problem, what exactly did he do that was bad? Even something little...

Nothing comes to my mind, but I can certainly recall a plethora of smart passes tape to tape, good pinches, a couple rippers from the point, and 1 great read where be busted through the NZ and Schenn slinged it over to him for a tapper that went just wide. I think this backs up your point.

Whatever you think of him, the fact that AMac replaced him on the PP is beyond laughable. He made just as many if not more mistakes than Medvedev last night but was rewarded for them. Medvedev is an easy non-English speaking, 33 yo, soon to be gone scapegoat.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing. But last night, my friend told me this:

After next season, we will need to give Ghost and one (if not both) goalies a new deal, as well as resigning MDZ if we want to. By then, the extensions to Couturier, Voracek, and (likely) Schenn will have kicked in. That extra $4.6M of cap space saved by the trade will be key at that point.

- jmatchett383



streit and schultz gone too. Read if we want to trade him can be gone
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
says a fan from a fan base that was calling for manning's death for hurting McDavid.
- nastyflyergirl


And robbing the NHL of the annointed one's talents.



bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!1
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
There were so many oddly muffed shots and passes last night by a number of different guys it was like it was April Fool's and someone had shaved 1/2" off everyone's stick length.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
streit and schultz gone too. Read if we want to trade him can be gone
- Just5


Yes, we'll likely have some other departures as well. But it means we can use that extra space to bring in other players. Not to say Hartnell will be washed up, but we can likely get a younger/better version of Hartnell for the same amount.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 4 @ 1:14 PM ET
never.....only interested in the Flyers
- vejim


Do you have interest in pickled and/or brined foods?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing. But last night, my friend told me this:

After next season, we will need to give Ghost and one (if not both) goalies a new deal, as well as resigning MDZ if we want to. By then, the extensions to Couturier, Voracek, and (likely) Schenn will have kicked in. That extra $4.6M of cap space saved by the trade will be key at that point.

- jmatchett383



absolutely. Obviously Columbus by far got the better player and my issue with the trade is I thought thety should have gotten more than a 4th rounder but all in all, having that money come off the cap is huge.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yes, we'll likely have some other departures as well. But it means we can use that extra space to bring in other players. Not to say Hartnell will be washed up, but we can likely get a younger/better version of Hartnell for the same amount.
- jmatchett383


Would you buyout umberger this summer?

Personally I would. I'm not letting take up another roster spot for another year when there are others ready to push those roles
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
Someone upthread suggesting that was Hexy, because he wasn't GM until May and the trade and signing happened before that.
- bodiva88


Trading a top-60 pick two top-90 picks for a vet doesn't really seem very Hexy, ya know?

edit: (frank) me
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
Do you have interest in pickled and/or brined foods?
- Streit2ThePoint

where are we going with this?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Would you buyout umberger this summer?

Personally I would. I'm not letting take up another roster spot for another year when there are others ready to push those roles

- Just5


I would not. The others you speak of are likely on contracts of less than $1M, so let him stay in the suite all season and be done with him 100% next summer.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
I thought I read that somewhere. If not. I'd be all over him for a 2 yr deal
- Just5


I suspect he'll stay in NY to hang w/ Marc, and eventually Jordan will find his way over there too.
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