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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Day: Mar 6 at San Jose Sharks, Future of the Defence
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
I dont believe Sbisa is that unshoppable, he's grown on me, I know a lot of people dont like his contract. He's got a big shot (doesnt hit the net much tho), hits hard, his biggest fault is he is too aggressive sometimes which imo isnt a bad thing to have. If we are trading a d man, its gotta be edler, I like our other guys... they just havent been enough.
- Crazybagoham


Sbisa has improved this season. Just that his physical play was sold to us or at least touted by JB... If we can get Pedan or Tryamkin in the lineup, he could be expendable, not sure how physical Tryamkin is, cant wait to see him play.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
This team has been much better in their own zone (maybe not in the third) the last 10 games since edler has been injured though. Hutton is proving, that even as a rookie, his mistakes are less egregious and less common than Edlers.
- Crazybagoham


I can't complain about Hutton, but if we could trade Sbisa instead of Edler, it makes us better. Even Edler in a lesser role, if Hutton or another surpasses him on the depth chart would mean he is on our second pairing.

Edler isn't so bad, just isn't a #1.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Tanev to TO for Pitt's 1st n TO 2nd
- Nighthawk



There is no D in this years draft that I consider NHL ready. For me to trade Tanev would need to be like Vatanen plus or Fla a package deal like Hansen JM Tanev for Crouse Gudbrandson .
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
If Tryamkin can really play RHD he would be a good pairing with Edler on the second unit. Relieve some of the pressure on Edler. Let him relax a little not having to be the guy..


I would look at a big upgrade on Tanev . He is the man that is a lot easier to move and would also get a nice return. Yes Florida we are looking at you.

- VANTEL

Edler can then hide from the media by just standing behind Tryamkin.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sbisa has improved this season. Just that his physical play was sold to us or at least touted by JB... If we can get Pedan or Tryamkin in the lineup, he could be expendable, not sure how physical Tryamkin is, cant wait to see him play.
- hillbillydeluxe


but...edler is a pylon :p I dislike his game so much. I'm very excited too, it's been a while since there's been a big defenceman play for this team, let alone a russian.... Maybe he'll have some chemistry with larson? him being an offensive guy, could translate for him :p

I would love to see an edler+ for hamonic deal this summer (or a comparable guy)

Tanev-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Pedan-tree-Larson-Biega

that's without left righty matchups and whatnot.... the defense just looks so much more responsible without edler on this team. lets trade him while he has any value :p if he has a bad year next season, he's worthless and we have another hamhuis.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
What are you hoping to get in return ?

Also my tree comment was based on a big D man playing on big ice ...might be a bit of a learning curve when he first gets over here

- Redmile247


We are in the beginning of a rebuild , we have time and patience for learning curves
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
There is no D in this years draft that I consider NHL ready. For me to trade Tanev would need to be like Vatanen plus or Fla a package deal like Hansen JM Tanev for Crouse Gudbrandson .
- VANTEL


I can see why Van does these trades ...unless milbury becomes the GM of either of those teams your out of luck
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
We are in the beginning of a rebuild , we have time and patience for learning curves
- VANTEL


Totally I get that ...I just see a lot hype for the guy and could see a fan base judge the guy unfairly if he struggles at first
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
I can see why Van does these trades ...unless milbury becomes the GM of either of those teams your out of luck
- Redmile247


tbh I like that deal, not so much trading McCann, but man we get big after that trade.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
Totally I get that ...I just see a lot hype for the guy and could see a fan base judge the guy unfairly if he struggles at first
- Redmile247

He has to beat out Weber and Bartowski. It is not a big leap
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
He has to beat out Weber and Bartowski. It is not a big leap
- VANTEL


True
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
He has to beat out Weber and Bartowski. It is not a big leap
- VANTEL

He (Tryamkin) has to beat out whomever they acquire this summer, not Weber and Bartkowski, they're as good as gone.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
He has to beat out Weber and Bartowski. It is not a big leap
- VANTEL


this. if one of these young, big rookies comes out and plays good positional hockey, plays the body, can break out of zone (our only guys that can do these are hutton/tanev/biega) they have a good chance of making this team. weber and bart and hamhuis and edler suck because they dont battle.

If these kids come out battling, they better make the team, or I will be prepping my WD effigy.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
tbh I like that deal, not so much trading McCann, but man we get big after that trade.
- Crazybagoham


But why is Florida doing it ?

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
But why is Florida doing it ?
- Redmile247


oh no way they do it :p. Gudbransen is as untouchable as Ekblad I would think, and Crouse is still in Juniors?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
He (Tryamkin) has to beat out whomever they acquire this summer, not Weber and Bartkowski, they're as good as gone.
- LeftCoaster


If you have faith they will acquire a d man, and not waste all their salary on lucic.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
but...edler is a pylon :p I dislike his game so much. I'm very excited too, it's been a while since there's been a big defenceman play for this team, let alone a russian.... Maybe he'll have some chemistry with larson? him being an offensive guy, could translate for him :p

I would love to see an edler+ for hamonic deal this summer (or a comparable guy)

Tanev-Hamonic
Hutton-Sbisa
Pedan-tree-Larson-Biega

that's without left righty matchups and whatnot.... the defense just looks so much more responsible without edler on this team. lets trade him while he has any value :p if he has a bad year next season, he's worthless and we have another hamhuis.

- Crazybagoham


I think Sbisa is a third pairing dman. Edler is at least top 4.

I can understand the wanting to trade Edler, he is frustrating at times but, hope I don't sound deluded, the good out weighs the bad.

I just don't see him wanting to waive that NTC...

If we don't move a dman and Tryamkin is here next season, we will likely lose Biega on waivers... it would be disappointing. The bulldog is a good 6/7 option.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
He (Tryamkin) has to beat out whomever they acquire this summer, not Weber and Bartkowski, they're as good as gone.
- LeftCoaster



Like I said yesterday, for the Canucks to be juggling this much to bring him over , they must be pretty high on him.
I imagine he has been scouted over and over. I think if they do bring him here he wont need to beat out anyone
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
oh no way they do it :p. Gudbransen is as untouchable as Ekblad I would think, and Crouse is still in Juniors?
- Crazybagoham


Ok that makes more sense

I think tanev has more value than people realize but I really think Hansen has less tbh
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
We need to get this shirt for Booner

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Mar 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
I can't complain about Hutton, but if we could trade Sbisa instead of Edler, it makes us better. Even Edler in a lesser role, if Hutton or another surpasses him on the depth chart would mean he is on our second pairing.

Edler isn't so bad, just isn't a #1.

- hillbillydeluxe


if JB is not supposed to trade picks or prospects then what else does he have to work with? Edler is a true trade asset in a rebuilding process. I think you need to trade Edler if you want to improve the future of this club.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
We need to get this shirt for Booner


- A_SteamingLombardi

I was just wondering where the old bastard was

great timing
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
If you have faith they will acquire a d man, and not waste all their salary on lucic.
- Crazybagoham


Lucic is not an answer for us in any way IMO
Unload Burrows somehow is a big step forward.
More cap the better n i wonder if JB goes huge on a UFA &/or RFA.
Bart n Weber n Hamhuis r gone.
Hansen n a D might be traded idk
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
If you have faith they will acquire a d man, and not waste all their salary on lucic.
- Crazybagoham

Those two, Linden and Benning, leave me at a loss for words when trying to figure out what their next move is when it comes to player acquisition.

I know what their plans are, as they've laid them out, I just don't know what to expect for moves.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
Like I said yesterday, for the Canucks to be juggling this much to bring him over , they must be pretty high on him.
I imagine he has been scouted over and over. I think if they do bring him here he wont need to beat out anyone

- VANTEL

Fingers crossed
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