Like I said yesterday, for the Canucks to be juggling this much to bring him over , they must be pretty high on him.
I imagine he has been scouted over and over. I think if they do bring him here he wont need to beat out anyone
- VANTEL

They'll most likely put him in a position that won't hurt his development…limited minutes to begin with in a 5/6 role.

I think Sbisa is a third pairing dman. Edler is at least top 4.

I can understand the wanting to trade Edler, he is frustrating at times but, hope I don't sound deluded, the good out weighs the bad.

I just don't see him wanting to waive that NTC...

If we don't move a dman and Tryamkin is here next season, we will likely lose Biega on waivers... it would be disappointing. The bulldog is a good 6/7 option.
- hillbillydeluxe

I used to say the same thing about Edler, but he doesnt even put up points anymore. That first unit PP is just awful with him and the Sedins, he rarely even hits the nets with his shots, bobbles on the blue line.... and is soft in his own zone. Dont know if the risk is worth it anymore. I would like Edler if WD always played Hutton with tanev, and lessened Edlers minutes by by a lot. But if Edler is on this team, WD will make him the top pairing guy, and he's just a dumpster fire when he plays 25 minutes.

if JB is not supposed to trade picks or prospects then what else does he have to work with? Edler is a true trade asset in a rebuilding process. I think you need to trade Edler if you want to improve the future of this club.
- bloatedmosquito

He shouldn't have a full to trade clause, but he does, stupid Gillis and Gilman. I've been reading some of the other teams NTC's, I like the ones where you can name 8 to 10 teams you will NOT accept a trade to, that leaves the window open to 2/3rd's of the league.

We need to get this shirt for Booner


- A_SteamingLombardi

Those two, Linden and Benning, leave me at a loss for words when trying to figure out what their next move is when it comes to player acquisition.

I know what their plans are, as they've laid them out, I just don't know what to expect for moves.
- LeftCoaster

welcome to the club, "we gotta make the playoffs and draft".... uh well okay benning.

I'm so scared as to who their guy is they already want in FA this summer.

Those two, Linden and Benning, leave me at a loss for words when trying to figure out what their next move is when it comes to player acquisition.

I know what their plans are, as they've laid them out, I just don't know what to expect for moves.
- LeftCoaster

None of us do, we live off of hope and speculation until something happens, and if it doesn't meet our hopes and speculation some go a little crazy for a day or 2.

He shouldn't have a full to trade clause, but he does, stupid Gillis and Gilman. I've been reading some of the other teams NTC's, I like the ones where you can name 8 to 10 teams you will NOT accept a trade to, that leaves the window open to 2/3rd's of the league.
- LeftCoaster

Isn't Edler a NMC? Meaning we cant even send him down to Utica as a scare tactic so he can accept a trade, that's what bugs me the most. Almost all of these contracts are no movement, let alone no trade, it's insane.

They'll most likely put him in a position that won't hurt his development…limited minutes to begin with in a 5/6 role.
- LeftCoaster

I know I am being optimistic but again I don't see Benning and Linden jumping through all the hoops to bring over a 3rd round pick to fill 5/6 spot . There has to be something they really like IMO.


Otherwise sign Bartowski again without the hassle.

I know I am being optimistic but again I don't see Benning and Linden jumping through all the hoops to bring over a 3rd round pick to fill 5/6 spot . There has to be something they really like IMO.


Otherwise sign Bartowski again without the hassle.
- VANTEL

nothing wrong with a rookie playing 5/6

I wont even touch the bart comment :p

if JB is not supposed to trade picks or prospects then what else does he have to work with? Edler is a true trade asset in a rebuilding process. I think you need to trade Edler if you want to improve the future of this club.
- bloatedmosquito

That NTC sure gets in the way and who knows what the club is willing or unwilling to do to remain competitive, make the playoffs, in the near future?

I used to say the same thing about Edler, but he doesnt even put up points anymore. That first unit PP is just awful with him and the Sedins, he rarely even hits the nets with his shots, bobbles on the blue line.... and is soft in his own zone. Dont know if the risk is worth it anymore. I would like Edler if WD always played Hutton with tanev, and lessened Edlers minutes by by a lot. But if Edler is on this team, WD will make him the top pairing guy, and he's just a dumpster fire when he plays 25 minutes.
- Crazybagoham

Nothing could be further from the truth, he does put up points, if you bothered to look up the facts. Over the past three years he's 59th overall in terms of PPG for defencemen at 0.386.

This year he's 63rd in defensive scoring averaging over 24 minutes of ice-time per night, which is ahead of Boychuk, Kronwall, Daley, Wideman, Hjalmarsson, Maata, Oduya etc.

There's 30 teams, that's two "D" on every team that play as 1/2, 60 players. He's an excellent #3 guy, his minutes are just elevated to the point where the guy makes mental mistakes.

This year he's 19th in total ice-time for defencemen, the guy plays against the other teams top players 5vs5, PP, PK, hard minutes, they rely on him for everything!

http://www.quanthockey.co...ons-defensemen-stats.html

nothing wrong with a rookie playing 5/6

I wont even touch the bart comment :p
- Crazybagoham

Nothing wrong with it at all . They have players already here like Pedan that could do that. Sbisa Larsen . No need to go through all the politics and paperwork to get Tryamkin to play 10 min a night . I just don't see all the work they are putting in to get him here and the shortcuts and allowing him to waste a year of ELC. You just don't do that for a bottom pair Dman

There is a gaping hole in the top 4 RHD second pairing .

Those two, Linden and Benning, leave me at a loss for words when trying to figure out what their next move is when it comes to player acquisition.

I know what their plans are, as they've laid them out, I just don't know what to expect for moves.
- LeftCoaster

So far the key moves have panned out good.
The temp filler is gone soon.
The kids n Pedan n Tree time will tell.
Next draft will be fun.

Nothing wrong with it at all . They have players already here like Pedan that could do that. Sbisa Larsen . No need to go through all the politics and paperwork to get Tryamkin to play 10 min a night . I just don't see all the work they are putting in to get him here and the shortcuts and allowing him to waste a year of ELC. You just don't do that for a bottom pair Dman

There is a gaping hole in the top 4 RHD second pairing .
- VANTEL

thn you just switch a guy to right, it's not as hard as people think it is. There are plenty of pairings that are righty/righty or lefty/lefty. 10 min in the nhl a night is better than 20 in the minors, d men have to be exposed to NHL speed and hitting early on. You have to pay yuor players what they're worth eventually, so who cares about ELCs I doubt he explodes offensively and if he doest, you just offer him a bridge, plus we arent goign on a cup run in the next 3 years so who cares about ELCs, Sedins will be retired by then.


As to previous Edler topics, this team is no better than the last 3 season with Edler in the lineup. He's part of the stale core that rolled over for Boston and have been rolling over ever since, he's gotta go! You cant just change your bottom level players and hope for a difference in the locker room. Got to change the top pairing guys, and the sedins arent going anywhere obviously. Edler is solid, and has some good years left on him, but definitely not with this team, he needs a trade. I would rather a lesser quality player and take the hit than let this floater stay in the locker room and taint these kids (look at horvats perimeter game)

thn you just switch a guy to right, it's not as hard as people think it is. There are plenty of pairings that are righty/righty or lefty/lefty. 10 min in the nhl a night is better than 20 in the minors, d men have to be exposed to NHL speed and hitting early on. You have to pay yuor players what they're worth eventually, so who cares about ELCs I doubt he explodes offensively and if he doest, you just offer him a bridge, plus we arent goign on a cup run in the next 3 years so who cares about cup runs.
- Crazybagoham

Thanks I would have never known there were players playing on the off wing

Tryamkin is a LH shot and I was suggesting him to play the RHD so I am well aware of playing on the off wing.

The rest of your rant makes no sense also so I am not even going to attempt it.

So far the key moves have panned out good.
The temp filler is gone soon.
The kids n Pedan n Tree time will tell.
Next draft will be fun.
- Nighthawk

I'm expecting some moves on the draft floor to acquire at least one more pick, hopefully they make some more good to great picks.

thn you just switch a guy to right, it's not as hard as people think it is. There are plenty of pairings that are righty/righty or lefty/lefty. 10 min in the nhl a night is better than 20 in the minors, d men have to be exposed to NHL speed and hitting early on. You have to pay yuor players what they're worth eventually, so who cares about ELCs I doubt he explodes offensively and if he doest, you just offer him a bridge, plus we arent goign on a cup run in the next 3 years so who cares about ELCs, Sedins will be retired by then.


As to previous Edler topics, this team is no better than the last 3 season with Edler in the lineup. He's part of the stale core that rolled over for Boston and have been rolling over ever since, he's gotta go! You cant just change your bottom level players and hope for a difference in the locker room. Got to change the top pairing guys, and the sedins arent going anywhere obviously. Edler is solid, and has some good years left on him, but definitely not with this team, he needs a trade. I would rather a lesser quality player and take the hit than let this floater stay in the locker room and taint these kids (look at horvats perimeter game)
- Crazybagoham

Malkin for Edler JM +
Or
Get in on Stamkos?

R either a real possibility?

Thanks I would have never known there were players playing on the off wing

Tryamkin is a LH shot and I was suggesting him to play the RHD so I am well aware of playing on the off wing.

The rest of your rant makes no sense also so I am not even going to attempt it.
- VANTEL

all I'm saying is it's a rebuild, so why are we putting ELCs before playing time? The contracts will be gone once this core of players is gone in 3 years, so JB isnt worrying about ELCs, trust me rofl, he'd rather see if his pickups can actually play then just pay them when they are due.

I'm expecting some moves on the draft floor to acquire at least one more pick, hopefully they make some more good to great picks.
- LeftCoaster

I can see JB doing that or at least working angles.

Malkin for Edler JM +
Or
Get in on Stamkos?

R either a real possibility?
- Nighthawk

nope.

(edit should have given a reason)
Malkin is untouchable like Crosby imo

Unless Henrik is giving up his playing time (keep in mind a lot of kids would to), I guess he could play wing or something with them. He's gonna cost 10m bucks, lets get real, that's what Towes/kane fetched with their own team. With 30 teams bidding on Stamkos, he's going to take a huge deal for a fringe team, that's if Lightening dont resign him if they go on a great run this spring (which is a definite possibitily, I could see stamkos taking a good like 8m AAV for 2 years with tampa if they do well)

I know I am being optimistic but again I don't see Benning and Linden jumping through all the hoops to bring over a 3rd round pick to fill 5/6 spot . There has to be something they really like IMO.


Otherwise sign Bartowski again without the hassle.
- VANTEL

I think any loop-holes you see are to simply get him under contract and not lose him to free agency. First round picks play 5/6 to start out, where he was drafted means nothing.

all I'm saying is it's a rebuild, so why are we putting ELCs before playing time? The contracts will be gone once this core of players is gone in 3 years, so JB isnt worrying about ELCs, trust me rofl
- Crazybagoham

The point being made is the Canucks management are going through all kinds of issues to make it happen for this prospect.

No management team would go through all the trouble and allowances to pick up a 5/6 everyday fringe player.

There is something that they see in his game that they are willing to go all in to get him here. You do not do that for FRINGE PLAYERS

I think any loop-holes you see are to simply get him under contract and not lose him to free agency. First round picks play 5/6 to start out, where he was drafted means nothing.
- LeftCoaster

If that's the expectation .

They have Pedan Biega Sbisa and Larsen to fill that hole. Sing him to a contract May first all is good .

I think Sbisa is a third pairing dman. Edler is at least top 4.

I can understand the wanting to trade Edler, he is frustrating at times but, hope I don't sound deluded, the good out weighs the bad.

I just don't see him wanting to waive that NTC...

If we don't move a dman and Tryamkin is here next season, we will likely lose Biega on waivers... it would be disappointing. The bulldog is a good 6/7 option.
- hillbillydeluxe

As I pointed out last blog, Edler is top 60 in points, for defenceman, even though he had missed a bunch of games. He eats big minutes and is a top 2 player in the nhl. He will be missed big time when he's gone, or do you think that we've been intentionally tanking and not missing him and Sutter?

The point being made is the Canucks management are going through all kinds of issues to make it happen for this prospect.

No management team would go through all the trouble and allowances to pick up a 5/6 everyday fringe player.

There is something that they see in his game that they are willing to go all in to get him here. You do not do that for FRINGE PLAYERS
- VANTEL

as lefty said, regardless I think it's just to get him signed and moved over here, KHL players are notoriously tricky. I think he'll get whatever position he deserves, regardless of the contract. Be it top 4, or 5/6 or even playing for Utica. Yes, I agree they see something in his game, and really want to get him over here, but I think you;re readign too much into it, to say he'll be playing top 4 next season unless he really earns it. Weber/bart gone, they might just have a bunch of guys battle for 4/5/6/7, unless the make a trade

If contracts are dictating who plays top 4 next year, then it will be Edler/tanev/hutton/sbisa. I wouldnt read too much into the sweet talking from Jb's side to get him over, I think they are just trying very hard to shore up the defensive depth.