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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
+/- out of 838 players in the NHL:

#838 Radim Vrbata -32
#837 Bo Horvat -30

A variety of variables contribute to this, but "worst in the entire league": That's a disaster.

- Ronning4ever


Oh good point. I take it back he is a bust
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
#Canucks confirm Edler went on LTI this week. Lots of cap space for Tryamkin. Deal close. Team working on KHL release and visa.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Hard to blame a guy where they play you too far up in the lineup that's where Sumter was supposed to be the 2nd line center and main penalty centreman. Better gauge would be next year when Sutter is back and Bo can continue to grow rather than being thrown to the wolves all the time.
- allsports


It had to be a challenge for Bo having Vrbata on his wing all season. Guy has no interest in playing hockey anymore
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Mar 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
It was...a truly challenging 24 hours. A Leafs mod banned me for standing up for the Canucks in our own thread
- CanuckDon


What? Well they have hurt feelings then of icing a AHL lineup and ripping off their fans for it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
+/- out of 838 players in the NHL:

#838 Radim Vrbata -32
#837 Bo Horvat -30

A variety of variables contribute to this, but "worst in the entire league": That's a disaster.

- Ronning4ever


He hasn't had a good year, but when you're the center matchup against the other team's #1 line every night and you're 20 it is a bit of trial by fire to be fair. +/- is a pretty awful stat, if you look at his corsi relative to the competition he is theyoungest guy on the "against the best" out of all forwards by a wide margin and he's not on the bottom. I think the first half of the year was pretty awful for Bo, if were being honest everyone knows it is true. But he looks to have found his stride in the second half here and IMO has been the best canuck the past 20 games.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
It was...a truly challenging 24 hours. A Leafs mod banned me for standing up for the Canucks in our own thread
- CanuckDon

It's amazing how often we get banned by Leaf mods in the Canuck thread.
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Mar 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
Hard to blame a guy where they play you too far up in the lineup that's where Sumter was supposed to be the 2nd line center and main penalty centreman. Better gauge would be next year when Sutter is back and Bo can continue to grow rather than being thrown to the wolves all the time.
- allsports


I would agree if he was just bad at it. But he's not been 'just bad'. He's been the worst in the entire league. And not even close...like there are 3 guys with -30 and three guys with -20 and then everyone else.

I expect him to be bad in the situation. Low point totals? Expected. Bad +/-? Expected. But you could not do any worse out of over 800 players? That's a disaster.



allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Mar 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
Oh good point. I take it back he is a bust
- CanuckDon



Yeah and let's shop Bo and see how many teams would kick him to the street. Heard McLean say that every team would want Bo, osoI yeah he's a bust
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Mar 6 @ 4:59 PM ET
I would agree if he was just bad at it. But he's not been 'just bad'. He's been the worst in the entire league. And not even close...like there are 3 guys with -30 and three guys with -20 and then everyone else.

I expect him to be bad in the situation. Low point totals? Expected. Bad +/-? Expected. But you could not do any worse out of over 800 players? That's a disaster.

- Ronning4ever


The team was a disaster as we have the fewest regular time wins in the NHL, except for To and Edmonton?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 6 @ 5:01 PM ET
I would agree if he was just bad at it. But he's not been 'just bad'. He's been the worst in the entire league. And not even close...like there are 3 guys with -30 and three guys with -20 and then everyone else.

I expect him to be bad in the situation. Low point totals? Expected. Bad +/-? Expected. But you could not do any worse out of over 800 players? That's a disaster.

- Ronning4ever

You're so right, they should cut him lose right now. These blind Canuck fans just don't see it, they over value their dream boys. +/- says he a bust, cut our losses.





LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 5:01 PM ET
With a goal today for Utica, #Canucks prospect Andrey Pedan has points in 7 of his last 11 games - he has 8 points (3-5-8) during this time
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:02 PM ET
It was...a truly challenging 24 hours. A Leafs mod banned me for standing up for the Canucks in our own thread
- CanuckDon

Funny how they are never lurking when their fans are running amok here, page after page.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:02 PM ET
It's amazing how often we get banned by Leaf mods in the Canuck thread.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Tumbleweed was trashing the Canucks and I told him to beat it and I'm banned while he slithers back to the safety of the Leafs blog....HypocriBuzz
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 6 @ 5:03 PM ET
Funny how they are never lurking when their fans are running amok here, page after page.
- Marwood

We need more Canuck mods.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's amazing how often we get banned by Leaf mods in the Canuck thread.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It's ridiculous!!
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 6 @ 5:05 PM ET


Yeah and let's shop Bo and see how many teams would kick him to the street. Heard McLean say that every team would want Bo, osoI yeah he's a bust

- allsports


he just goes with the flow... and tries to work in a silly pun. Can't take him serious.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 6 @ 5:05 PM ET
Tumbleweed was trashing the Canucks and I told him to beat it and I'm banned while he slithers back to the safety of the Leafs blog....HypocriBuzz
- CanuckDon

If we flag them to much their mods get angry and take out their frustrations on us, if we had more mods there would be less flagging and more action, I'd settle for just warnings to keep it under control.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 6 @ 5:05 PM ET
It's ridiculous!!
- Marwood


no use complaining about the officiating... but feel free until you are banned.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 6 @ 5:06 PM ET
It's ridiculous!!
- Marwood

To many Leaf mods (white cops)

#canucklivesmatter
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:07 PM ET
no use complaining about the officiating...
- hillbillydeluxe


Can we at least Wideman one of them? Son?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:08 PM ET
Tumbleweed was trashing the Canucks and I told him to beat it and I'm banned while he slithers back to the safety of the Leafs blog....HypocriBuzz
- CanuckDon

You got banned for that?!?!
What a f*cking joke. Absolute hypocrites. Their fans soil our thread for days at a time and we're told not to flag so much. What crap!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:08 PM ET
Funny how they are never lurking when their fans are running amok here, page after page.
- Marwood


We need a Canucks mod to troll the Leafs blog and start banning them
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 5:09 PM ET
To many Leaf mods (white cops)

#canucklivesmatter

- A_SteamingLombardi

The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 6 @ 5:09 PM ET
Bo had a poor start but now when his linens on they control play. The kid is 20 drives to the net and is impressive as hell. Gonna be a great great player. Perhaps our best in the second half
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Mar 6 @ 5:09 PM ET
He hasn't had a good year, but when you're the center matchup against the other team's #1 line every night and you're 20 it is a bit of trial by fire to be fair. +/- is a pretty awful stat, if you look at his corsi relative to the competition he is theyoungest guy on the "against the best" out of all forwards by a wide margin and he's not on the bottom. I think the first half of the year was pretty awful for Bo, if were being honest everyone knows it is true. But he looks to have found his stride in the second half here and IMO has been the best canuck the past 20 games.
- neem55


Not saying we should give-up on him, but my thoughts on his 'ceiling' as a two way forward just got an injection of reality.

You are correct, trial by fire...and he burned...badly. It's not good. You expect him to get his wallet handed to him, but worst in the league...no one should sink to that low unless you are playing an AHL team.

To be clear, I wouldn't trade him. He's got a good shot is good on F/O's andmight have just his a confidence bump. Hopefully the next shot machine he plays with shoots better than 6.6% (last year Vrbata shot 11% - career he's 9%).

But, the original point was that it's been a disaster this year, which I don't see anyone can argue their way out of. Same with Vrbata, Bartowski and Weber...and those three are thankfully gone at the end of season.


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