They'll have to make a roster move soon when Voracek and Weal healthy. Cousins may end up back in the AHL since he's waiver-exempt and Weal isn't.

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- Feanor

Classic case of NMC on bad contracts coming back to bite them. Score another point for Team Buyoutberger

The Flyers really played a heckuva game last night. Their forechecking was non-stop and relentless. Best breakouts I've seen all season as well. Tons of second and third efforts from players all over the ice.

He probably is the real deal, or as close to the real deal as any player currently in the CHL. I'm hoping we have a Keith/McDonagh pair with Provorov/Sanheim and a Bogosian/Ghost (who's the comparable) in Morin/Ghost in 3-4 years.
- jmatchett383

The thing about Provorov is not only physically but mentally he just thinks the game fast then other players in junior.

Anyone else writing in Shayne Gostisbehere this November?
- jmatchett383

The misspellings would be funny.

Shane Ghostybear

You know Stamkos is younger then Giroux?

We have no clue what the damands will be. If it is purely financial then yes Toronto could offer the most. But a lot of good teams can't fit him in without clearing tons of space. That limits his market. Does he want a full rebuild in his prime?

The Flyers could be a very attractive place. And that is not my bias. They are closer then Toronto to competing and they have attractive prospects and pieces. Also he could play center like he wants. You could go down the middle with Giroux, Stamkos and Couturier in your top 9
- J35Bacher

He is 2 years younger than Giroux. 26 at this time. I get the notion of wanting him, but personally... Stay the hell away.

No thank you. Steady the course. We would have WAY too much money commited to three forwards for the next like 8 years. Obviously Stamkos is a great player but I don't see a great fit here. Patience is what the flyers still need at this point.
- Gnrlbot

Not being facetious but what doesn't he fit.

He's 26
Pure sniper
underrated 2 way game
will be in his prime


Is it just the money part that people worry about?

Won't let me quote, but I'm not worried about our schedule down the stretch , I'm worried about Pens and Wings schedule. They both have an easier schedule imo conspired to us when in comes to playing against playoff and non playoff teams.
- arichardson22

I'm worried about our schedule. I believe we absolutely have the toughest schedule from here on out. I really believe last bight made up for Edmonton, so we're somewhat where we should be. With this said, we'll be a better team with Jake in the line up when he returns.

Missing the playoffs sucks! Period! I absolutely refuse to talk about what we could get or who we could get in the draft. Making the playoffs and seeing where we measure up is much more important.

I'd sign him for 4-5. He is very young as well, which I sometimes forget with that damn beard.

Keep the cap hit down. To what a real 3rd pairing d-man should be paid.
- flyer_nutter

Speaking of beards, can you imagine this team on a long playoff run? Gudas and Ghost will be channeling Brent Burns...

You know Stamkos is younger then Giroux?

We have no clue what the damands will be. If it is purely financial then yes Toronto could offer the most. But a lot of good teams can't fit him in without clearing tons of space. That limits his market. Does he want a full rebuild in his prime?

The Flyers could be a very attractive place. And that is not my bias. They are closer then Toronto to competing and they have attractive prospects and pieces. Also he could play center like he wants. You could go down the middle with Giroux, Stamkos and Couturier in your top 9
- J35Bacher

I honestly don't think it would present a cap problem for a fairly long time. We have the space now. By the time we need to re-sign our d prospects, Umberger, McDonald will be gone (hopefully in McDonalds case). Doubtful they will command huge long term contracts at that point. As long as we don't sign Stamkos to a 8-10 year deal, I think we would be able to time it right to be able to fit everyone.

Speaking of beards, can you imagine this team on a long playoff run? Gudas and Ghost will be channeling Brent Burns...
- dragonoffrost

Nah. Gudas' beard is legit. Burns' is a hipster freak-show.

You know Stamkos is younger then Giroux?

We have no clue what the damands will be. If it is purely financial then yes Toronto could offer the most. But a lot of good teams can't fit him in without clearing tons of space. That limits his market. Does he want a full rebuild in his prime?

The Flyers could be a very attractive place. And that is not my bias. They are closer then Toronto to competing and they have attractive prospects and pieces. Also he could play center like he wants. You could go down the middle with Giroux, Stamkos and Couturier in your top 9
- J35Bacher

We're lucky Giroux has this good for this long and this healthy for this long. It's gonna be years until we have to pay Provorov, Sanheim, Gostisbehere and Morin. I say get him because this team without G would be lost right now.

Is it this summer Jake's new deal kicks in? I know this will be tricky.

And how are we going to fit his $10M/per on our cap in 3-4 years when Simmonds and some of our younger D need their extensions?
- jmatchett383

young d won't be going from their ELC to huge deals. Umberger and other dead weight will be gone. Hopefully we will have a pool of cheap young talent to funnel in around our core. Just don't sign Stamkos to a 8-10 year deal. It can be done. It will be tight like how it is with Chicago, but can be done. The key is to get one of our top d guys to hopefully take a sweet deal with us like Keith did with Chicago. He and his deal is the reason Chicago is able to do what they do now. And it is highly doubtful all our d guys pan out so its not like there is likely to be a huge problem signing all 4-5 of them

Not being facetious but what doesn't he fit.

He's 26
Pure sniper
underrated 2 way game
will be in his prime


Is it just the money part that people worry about?
- J35Bacher

Money and length of contract. I'd be more in favour of guys like Filpulla (know he is signed).

Your top line is set, and for the most part so is your 2nd with the hopeful continued emergence of Schenn.

You dont want to become the Penguins who have nothing to show outside of the big contracts.

I honestly don't think it would present a cap problem for a fairly long time. We have the space now. By the time we need to re-sign our d prospects, Umberger, McDonald will be gone (hopefully in McDonalds case). Doubtful they will command huge long term contracts at that point. As long as we don't sign Stamkos to a 8-10 year deal, I think we would be able to time it right to be able to fit everyone.
- orangekrush2010

also the cap isn't always going to stay stagnant. There will be incremental increases. And they could move a guy like Read if needed and replace with cheaper options.

Also if needed you could move assets like Schenn if you want in the future to move money around.

Nah. Gudas' beard is legit. Burns' is a hipster freak-show.
- Scoob

Cooter has the best beard. He is Yukon Cornelius reincarnated.

Nah. Gudas' beard is legit. Burns' is a hipster freak-show.
- Scoob

How about Big Joe's then? I mean those guys in SJ have some serious facial follicles going.

I'm with Nutter about Gudas.
I would be very happy to see them ink him to a 2 yr deal.
Money about what Schultz got, 2-2.25 per.
Can live with a 3 yr deal, prefer 2 with the prospects coming.
- Marc D

I'd be down with that.

Money and length of contract. I'd be more in favour of guys like Filpulla (know he is signed).

Your top line is set, and for the most part so is your 2nd with the hopeful continued emergence of Schenn.

You dont want to become the Penguins so have nothing to show outside of the big contracts.
- flyer_nutter

The problem the penguins have is they don't have any youth that they can put in the lineup. They have moved pieces for guys like lovejoy and kessel and moved picks.

The Flyers have young players to fill bottom 6 rolls on inexpensive contracts. Also they have some youn defenseman that will be on cheap deals.

i'm with you. medvedev has a higher skill level but prone to more drastic mistakes, imo. manning seems to be more stable back there.
- hammarby31

It is death by 1000 paper cuts. He played well last night and has had good games...but is allowing a stable amount of shots and chances really anything better?

How about Big Joe's then? I mean those guys in SJ have some serious facial follicles going.
- dragonoffrost

2real is slipping them testosterone when they arent looking.

also the cap isn't always going to stay stagnant. There will be incremental increases. And they could move a guy like Read if needed and replace with cheaper options.

Also if needed you could move assets like Schenn if you want in the future to move money around.
- J35Bacher

Yup. People who keep saying its not doable are not thinking creatively enough or realizing the multitude of options.

The problem the penguins have is they don't have any youth that they can put in the lineup. They have moved pieces for guys like lovejoy and kessel and moved picks.

The Flyers have young players to fill bottom 6 rolls on inexpensive contracts. Also they have some youn defenseman that will be on cheap deals.
- J35Bacher

Yeah, the penguins undoing is not the contracts for Malkin and Crosby and others. They actually have a pretty decent supporting cast for them. They just emptied their cupboard to go for it while they have those two and have underperformed despite going for it and have faced injury issues.

I'm with Nutter about Gudas.
I would be very happy to see them ink him to a 2 yr deal.
Money about what Schultz got, 2-2.25 per.
Can live with a 3 yr deal, prefer 2 with the prospects coming.
- Marc D

The problem the penguins have is they don't have any youth that they can put in the lineup. They have moved pieces for guys like lovejoy and kessel and moved picks.

The Flyers have young players to fill bottom 6 rolls on inexpensive contracts. Also they have some youn defenseman that will be on cheap deals.
- J35Bacher

Prospects are nothing.

Until they play. Hell, Flyers just shipped out the `next Adam Foote`` to LA a couple months ago.

Money and length of contract. I'd be more in favour of guys like Filpulla (know he is signed).

Your top line is set, and for the most part so is your 2nd with the hopeful continued emergence of Schenn.

You dont want to become the Penguins who have nothing to show outside of the big contracts.
- flyer_nutter

If we could sign Stamkos to a 5-6 year deal and gave him what he wanted, it likely wouldnt pose an issue and would probably be perfect. Takes him until 32 where he can squeeze another good contract out of someone if he still has it. Around that time we'll probably be dealing with needing to hand out larger contracts to our d guys