Hey folks, just wrote a story, sort of like I've done when bringing up how the team is doing compared to last season (and then the last time I did it, I compared it to the 11/12 team). Rather than plopping as much as I wrote for it in here, I put it up as a MyHockeyBuzz post. Would appreciate the read and comments:

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...st_id=17350&user_id=46367

Edit: keep in mind, comments on that part of the site are kind of crappy, they're character limited to something ridiculously small compared to the lack of limit here.
- stashu

But were those teams any good 5 on 5 . Just kidding . Very good analysis.

Hey folks, just wrote a story, sort of like I've done when bringing up how the team is doing compared to last season (and then the last time I did it, I compared it to the 11/12 team). Rather than plopping as much as I wrote for it in here, I put it up as a MyHockeyBuzz post. Would appreciate the read and comments:

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...st_id=17350&user_id=46367

Edit: keep in mind, comments on that part of the site are kind of crappy, they're character limited to something ridiculously small compared to the lack of limit here.
- stashu

The comments on that site are the best! Mods never go there so we can say whatever we want.

The comments on that site are the best! Mods never go there so we can say whatever we want.
- Jeropotato

If you think I won't delete or ban for posts on mine, you're delusional.

Hey Stashu! How is this allowed but wrestlers Gifs get deleted?
- Jeropotato

Depends on the wrestler i guess

If it will be close then it wouldn't be a top 5 pick.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

right, i think the assumption is we'll pick top 5 this year.

Next season, we'll be much closer to the playoffs.....i thought that evident from my comment, no?

- homiedclown

Exactly...

right, i think the assumption is we'll pick top 5 this year.

Next season, we'll be much closer to the playoffs.....i thought that evident from my comment, no?
- nikel

Yes i got it, but we keep playing the way we are we wont be top 5 in either draft.

If you think I won't delete or ban for posts on mine, you're delusional.
- stashu

I see your getting about the same amount of hits as Garf does.




Good reed Stash

We are not gonna be top 5 this year either. If we get a #1D that is proven i take it all day every day and as some say.... twice on sunday.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Ok, but for what in exchange?

There's no way anyone trades a true OEL type #1D for a 1st, even 2 1st might not cut it.

And i gotta say, I'd be real hesitant about trading multiple 1st round picks given the stage of our rebuild. The core of this team largely HAS to come from the draft, that's the only way you can build a successful and LONG LASTING team with the salary cap. Doing it through trades and FA signings is very risky because you don't have the benefit of 3 years of entry level and 7 years as an RFA.

If we think we've settle on our core (Risto, Jack, Reinhart,Lehner, maybe even McCabe) then trading 1st probably isn't as much of a risk......but if we're not, and i think we're still missing one prospect piece, then i think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves.

Exactly...
- kaptaan

The ones I was with were good guys. Talked about the tank and how the Toronto media is bullpoop. Heard that the announcers were ripping on Eichel and talking about how their rookie was better and we all had a good laugh about it.

Another observation, ACC is a nice arena but it's not designed well acoustically. Much of the game the crowd sounded very quiet and you could hardly heard anything on the ice. Big hits and pucks hitting the boards weren't as loud as some arenas I've been to

Ok, but for what in exchange?

There's no way anyone trades a true OEL type #1D for a 1st, even 2 1st might not cut it.

And i gotta say, I'd be real hesitant about trading multiple 1st round picks given the stage of our rebuild. The core of this team largely HAS to come from the draft, that's the only way you can build a successful and LONG LASTING team with the salary cap. Doing it through trades and FA signings is very risky because you don't have the benefit of 3 years of entry level and 7 years as an RFA.

If we think we've settle on our core (Risto, Jack, Reinhart,Lehner, maybe even McCabe) then trading 1st probably isn't as much of a risk......but if we're not, and i think we're still missing one prospect piece, then i think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves.
- nikel

That's my big thing as well. Now, to get that big piece I'm fine with trading picks. I'm fine with trading prospects and picks and players to get a defenseman that we can rely on for years to come. I just get concerned when we look in the pipeline and don't have a guy who I see and say "When that kid is ready he's going to be great". If you can have your stars playing well and then a rookie or 2 in your bottom 6 that cost 500k-1M getting sheltered minutes and still putting up goals it can really help. I look at the 05-06 team for that example. Chicago does that as well I believe.

The ones I was with were good guys. Talked about the tank and how the Toronto media is bullpoop. Heard that the announcers were ripping on Eichel and talking about how their rookie was better and we all had a good laugh about it.

Another observation, ACC is a nice arena but it's not designed well acoustically. Much of the game the crowd sounded very quiet and you could hardly heard anything on the ice. Big hits and pucks hitting the boards weren't as loud as some arenas I've been to
- Zschalberg

You were at the game too? Which announcers? Usually pro eichel...

But were those teams any good 5 on 5 . Just kidding . Very good analysis.
- Maximum Signal

This is not a good post

The ones I was with were good guys. Talked about the tank and how the Toronto media is bullpoop. Heard that the announcers were ripping on Eichel and talking about how their rookie was better and we all had a good laugh about it.

Another observation, ACC is a nice arena but it's not designed well acoustically. Much of the game the crowd sounded very quiet and you could hardly heard anything on the ice. Big hits and pucks hitting the boards weren't as loud as some arenas I've been to
- Zschalberg

I watched the Toronto feed yesterday not once did I hear that their rookies were better than Eichel

Yes i got it, but we keep playing the way we are we wont be top 5 in either draft.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

You need to look at who we've been winning against

Going back to mid January, and with the exception of San Jose, ALL of our wins have been against teams in the lower half of the standings.

We just lost to Edmonton and nearly to TO, yeah we've made strides, but we're only a 3 game losing streak from being back in the bottom 3.

I'm not saying that it will happen, just that I'm definitely not as confident as you that it won't happen.

This is not a good post
- sbroads24

Excellent Post . Hits the nail on the head.

Excellent Post . Hits the nail on the head.



- Maximum Signal

I honestly don't get the joke behind it.

I honestly don't get the joke behind it.
- sbroads24

To Bad . The rest of us do.

To Bad . The rest of us do.
- Maximum Signal

Too*

And I'm still not sure what the joke is.


The Sabres being bad 5 on 5 is an absolute fact.

Whether the power play is as important or not was the "argument"

An actual joke that would make sense would be asking if those teams had a good PP or not.

I watched the Toronto feed yesterday not once did I hear that their rookies were better than Eichel
- Stripes77

would have been the guys on the radio...

would have been the guys on the radio...
- kaptaan

That's comical oh well

Not time to make a splash in my opinion, and that's just me. I look and see that we're in 23rd place whereas last year we were in 30th. We have 160 GF and 181 GA. That's without Lehner for a good majority of the year, with Sam and Jack being rookies, with players who had never played together, and a new coach. Not to mention that your top 2 scorers from last year, Ennis (46) and Moulson (41) have 27 points between them.

I'm good with moving forward with this core and building around it. If you find a top 4 d-man and it doesn't cost that 1st or any of the core then sure make the team better. Sign a couple of free agents, make your best push for Stamkos, but if this is basically my 2016-17 team I'll take it and we'll see where it goes.
- Zschalberg

Disagree. There is no core. You have four players on offense who are apart of the future of this team. Kane, O'Riley, Eichel and Reinhart. Everyone else is pieces to move.

If the Sabres did win the lottery, would you trade down to 2-4 to take a winger or d? Say Toronto is picking 3rd an offered the 3rd and their other 1st? Or Arizona is 3rd and there is a move like the 3rd and Michael Stone for the 1st.

On the other hand if we are picking 8-12 what would we have to include to move up to 2-5. Larson, Psysyk, Foligno?

Regardless of what happens, the Sabres will not go into day 1 without a pick having it here in Buffalo.
- adambuffalo

Plus every draft pick we have this year.

Went to the game last night and I will say the Leafs fans there were very nice. Compared to Montreal they talked to me, joked with me, were generally good guys. Of course they cheered in my face each time they scored but that's to be expected. The Leafs fans that come to Buffalo give them a bad name but I was impressed.
- Zschalberg

You are banned .........

Yes i got it, but we keep playing the way we are we wont be top 5 in either draft.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

The way we are playing we will be (10-12). We can't stop getting points and ROR will be back soon.