Hansen is great value for a 3rd liner.
Everyone knows he's having a career year.
Other GMs are aware of his career totals and that this year is an anomaly, we aren't going to trick anyone by looking at this year's stats alone.

I'd be happy to move him and happy to keep him. I like your idea of packaging him as i think that would allow us to extract some real value.
- dbot

I'd love to see a Hansen draft day deal, just like Vrbata last year there will be no time where is value is this high at his age/contract. Could fetch a #1 for a team with cup aspirations.

Moneypuck guy wrote it and he isn't there anymore.

I was just reading this,

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ting-fired#comment-837587

I found it very amateurish to the point of trolling.
- hillbillydeluxe

I'd say you described it perfectly, brutal.

Another day, another spot closer to a top-5 pick

duncan kieth makes 5 mil, is he not among the leagues elite? With all due respect, he is among the leagues elite shut-down centers (that's simply fact not opinion) paycheques don't actually determine that. He's won 3 selke's (including the last two) something only Gainey, Carbinnou, Datsyuk and Lethinen have done. Fairly elite company I'd say.
- neem55

I think you're agreeing with me without realizing it. Seems like the Canucks are busy looking for multiple guys who in a couple of years will have good potential to make the same kind of impact or as close as possible to it as a Bergeron or a Keith, while getting paid similarly or less. Instead of the alternative which is signing Stamkos for $10.5MM plus Lucic for $7MM and calling it a day.

I think you're agreeing with me without realizing it. Seems like the Canucks are busy looking for multiple guys who in a couple of years will have good potential to make the same kind of impact or as close as possible to it as a Bergeron or a Keith, while getting paid similarly or less. Instead of the alternative which is signing Stamkos for $10.5MM plus Lucic for $7MM and calling it a day.
- YeOldTimer

In Stamkos its a guaranteed impact

The negativity is a bit much. JB is doing a bad job putting together the team, WD is doing a bad job with what he has to work with.

Gee if the team is that bad, might want to cut WD some slack.

They want the full blown tank, and that isn't happening, so there is nothing positive to write. Even if we went full tank, they would be unhappy with something/everything.

I don't believe they are very objective.
- hillbillydeluxe

Canucks fans, media, bloggers and twitterers are the whiniest bunch in the league. Tiring already.

Another day, another spot closer to a top-5 pick
- neem55

Sadly we aren't gaining any ground on the bottom feeders. We are going to have to lose every game to get in the top 5!

I really, really, really, liked this analysis (even though I didn't agree with everything in it). I thought it was pretty thorough and gave some angles I hadn't thought of.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited
- Ronning4ever

It's an interesting analysis, and I'd say he'd be bang on if he was talking about a Mike Gillis team. I took it as the scouting staff looking for guys with more potential to succeed in the playoffs over how many points they'll get in the regular season. Benning has already traded for the Ehlers and Nylander types with Baertschi and Granlund. Harder to trade for a guy like Virtanen once he's proven he can play at the NHL level.

I think you're agreeing with me without realizing it. Seems like the Canucks are busy looking for multiple guys who in a couple of years will have good potential to make the same kind of impact or as close as possible to it as a Bergeron or a Keith, while getting paid similarly or less. Instead of the alternative which is signing Stamkos for $10.5MM plus Lucic for $7MM and calling it a day.
- YeOldTimer

i'm just saying Bergeron is an elite player, that's about it really. As for the rest... I'd be fine with Stamkos for 9-10 million. He's a true #1 and getting better every year (think bigger than points people), still young and can come in and be the next leader of this team. Not huge on Lucic but if it happens I wont complain as he is good component, I hope a short-term contract. There's nothing wrong with spending the cap space on a big piece, so long as they are drafting d and building from the back end out aswell I will be happy. I really don't see Stamkos or Lucic choosing Vancouver though. I think it would be really ironic if he went to Florida and they won

Sadly we aren't gaining any ground on the bottom feeders. We are going to have to lose every game to get in the top 5!
- CanuckDon

Columbus won and pulled ahead of us, that's what I was referring to. We dropped behind Buffalo yesterday... keep it sliding

In Stamkos its a guaranteed impact
- Nighthawk

Of course, for one roster spot. But how effective is TB if they don't also have that second line of Kucherov, etc.?

I also read this but didn't share the link

You are giving this PetBugs twit more hits
- CanuckDon

Sorry.

He is a troll.

Of course, for one roster spot. But how effective is TB if they don't also have that second line of Kucherov, etc.?
- YeOldTimer

kucherov has been the only one producing out of the triplets, and he plays with Stamkos this year (who has also been very good)

Columbus won and pulled ahead of us, that's what I was referring to. We dropped behind Buffalo yesterday... keep it sliding
- neem55

Well yes, technically we are in 7th but we have 2 games in hand...anyways, time to get used to cheering for a hard fought loss

I really, really, really, liked this analysis (even though I didn't agree with everything in it). I thought it was pretty thorough and gave some angles I hadn't thought of.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited
- Ronning4ever

Really fancy analysis, but irrelevant. He's looking back and babbling about picks a year after they were drafted before they played a single NHL game. Now redo the analysis and, guess what, still doesn't matter. Need to see how these players do in three to five years, then can make assessments. At this point, it is statistical masturbation.

The negativity is a bit much. JB is doing a bad job putting together the team, WD is doing a bad job with what he has to work with.

Gee if the team is that bad, might want to cut WD some slack.

They want the full blown tank, and that isn't happening, so there is nothing positive to write. Even if we went full tank, they would be unhappy with something/everything.

I don't believe they are very objective.
- hillbillydeluxe

So its exactly like being here.....

Of course, for one roster spot. But how effective is TB if they don't also have that second line of Kucherov, etc.?
- YeOldTimer

Canucks need a sniper n 2 offensive D n better team defence.
Stamkos instant goals. D hard to come buy in need shrewd moves n drafting.
Team D is systems n our kids maturing.

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 2h2 hours ago
Tryamkin gets 832,500 dollars NHL base, 70,000 AHL salary. #Canucks

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 2h2 hours ago
Tryamkin has option of going back to Russia and not the AHL if he doesn't make the #Canucks next year.

Canucks need a sniper n 2 offensive D n better team defence.
Stamkos instant goals. D hard to come buy in need shrewd moves n drafting.
Team D is systems n our kids maturing.
- Nighthawk

Boeser Hutton

Team is on a merry go round while in transition.
Lots of pain ahead while we reassemble.

So its exactly like being here.....
- SMBDragon

Boeser Hutton
- VANTEL

Great beginning👍👍

It's an interesting analysis, and I'd say he'd be bang on if he was talking about a Mike Gillis team. I took it as the scouting staff looking for guys with more potential to succeed in the playoffs over how many points they'll get in the regular season. Benning has already traded for the Ehlers and Nylander types with Baertschi and Granlund. Harder to trade for a guy like Virtanen once he's proven he can play at the NHL level.
- YeOldTimer

Hmmmmm. I agree. I think you're right he's looking for 'heavy game' players over skilled guys...the Detroit vs. Anaheim argument from 8 years ago. I didn't agree with the 'critical fail' aspect of the Dorsett/Miller/Sbisa signings...maybe not great signings, but I don't think they've handcuffed the team. I'll never forgive him for trading Garrison though...unless Garrison asked for a trade or something...

"Benning has already traded for the Ehlers and Nylander types with Baertschi and Granlund."

I don't think those guys are the same league at all - Baertschi and Granlund are probably not as good. But again, I think he wanted a strong two way guy - and Virtanen fits that bill more.

In terms of the CA Gillis analysis - I thought this was pretty bang on:

http://canucksarmy.com/20...-gillis-era-be-remembered

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 2h2 hours ago
Tryamkin gets 832,500 dollars NHL base, 70,000 AHL salary. #Canucks

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 2h2 hours ago
Tryamkin has option of going back to Russia and not the AHL if he doesn't make the #Canucks next year.
- hillbillydeluxe

Really fancy analysis, but irrelevant. He's looking back and babbling about picks a year after they were drafted before they played a single NHL game. Now redo the analysis and, guess what, still doesn't matter. Need to see how these players do in three to five years, then can make assessments. At this point, it is statistical masturbation.
- bazz

That's generally what scouting and drafting is - guesswork, based on variables before players play. All the variables are based on actual work...I wouldn't say any of this analysis is irrelevant. Wouldn't agree with the 'critical fail' aspect of part two, but I agree with most of it...and hopefully they're wrong about the 4th draft selection!