jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Larsson has woken up the last 6 or 7 games.
The 50 before that, most peoples opinion on him was that we couldnt give him away fast enough.
Like i said in my previous comment.mthey're both young and have no business demanding any sort of real money. Keep them both and see what happens.
Bottom 6 for both of them. Fits the LA/Chi mold if even only one of the works out. - seedy
Makes sense
Although if Girgensons ends up being a "fit" on Jack's wing,
I'm ok with that
Idk why we have to have our 6 best scorers on our top2 lines?
It's ok to balance it out so we have 3 lines that can score
Look at Detroit...
Nyquist has spent a lot of time on the 3rd line this year, while guys like Helm & Abdelkader played above him
Not that you HAVE to do it that way,
But I'm not gonna argue with 25 straight years of playoffs either
It's WAY TOO SOON for any of us to say who should be on what line
It's still a work in progress
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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How many legit #1 D-Men are in the leauge?
How many legit #1 centers in the league? - Stripes77
Depends on your definition of "#1"
U could make a good argument for or against a guy like Bergeron
And I'll get blasted for this...
But I'd say the same about Karlsson. As dominant as he is offensively, he's nowhere close to a "shut down" guy in his own end. |
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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 10.04.2006
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How many legit #1 D-Men are in the leauge?
How many legit #1 centers in the league? - Stripes77
About 15 of each? |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Has a "blogger" ever gotten banned by a ref? I mean this isn't the first time a Garth blog had to be locked - Stripes77
He also had a few choice words on his Twitter feed which were not well received. Words that are used as slurs against people with disabilities. |
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mhp
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Trade Garth for Bill Ranford - Khmylev
Garth who? |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Garth who? - mhp
That's the spirit |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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About 15 of each? - rmiethaner
I would say there are more #1 centers than #1 Defensemen
Doughty, Keith, Subban, Karlsson, OEL
Toews, Bergeron, McDavid (he is already), Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Sedin (yeah he is still that good), Seguin, Getzlaf, Thorton, Giroux even though he plays wing more I believe, Backstrom (washington) |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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He also had a few choice words on his Twitter feed which were not well received. Words that are used as slurs against people with disabilities. - lumlums
Well now I hope someone kicks his ass... |
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jochfr
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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I would say there are more #1 centers than #1 Defensemen
Doughty, Keith, Subban, Karlsson, OEL
Toews, Bergeron, McDavid (he is already), Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Sedin (yeah he is still that good), Seguin, Getzlaf, Thorton, Giroux even though he plays wing more I believe, Backstrom (washington) - Stripes77
You got two on one team in Nashville... |
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Well now I hope someone kicks his ass...  - jochfr
Indeed. Just because those words may sound like the names of people, it's not okay to substitute them in there... |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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You got two on one team in Nashville...  - jochfr
It's easier for me to remember centers but yeah Weber was a big miss for sure |
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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 10.04.2006
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I would say there are more #1 centers than #1 Defensemen
Doughty, Keith, Subban, Karlsson, OEL
Toews, Bergeron, McDavid (he is already), Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Sedin (yeah he is still that good), Seguin, Getzlaf, Thorton, Giroux even though he plays wing more I believe, Backstrom (washington) - Stripes77
Fitz made a good point about what is considered #1. Would Hedman or Ekblad be a #1? Weber or Josi? The kid in Colorado or Suter? |
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CoHo_to_B-Lo
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Location: East Amherst, NY Joined: 02.29.2012
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You got two on one team in Nashville...  - jochfr
Hodgson and Gaustad? |
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CoHo_to_B-Lo
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Location: East Amherst, NY Joined: 02.29.2012
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Fitz made a good point about what is considered #1. Would Hedman or Ekblad be a #1? Weber or Josi? The kid in Colorado or Suter? - rmiethaner
Tyson
Here comes DDM |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Fitz made a good point about what is considered #1. Would Hedman or Ekblad be a #1? Weber or Josi? The kid in Colorado or Suter? - rmiethaner
Hedman yes Ekblad not yet, Weber yes Josi sure, Suter (he game isnt where it was), Tyson eh I am not so sure not yet |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Hodgson and Gaustad? - CoHo_to_B-Lo
One of those dildos was waived... |
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Keep Gerbe because he's fast, keep Kaleta because he's a home town boy, keep Girgensons because he's a go getter, keep Foligno because of his name.
And we wonder why Sabre fans are at the nearest bar watching the playoffs and yet another expansion team winning a cup. - SABRES 89
I don't necessarily think that's wholly true, 89...
you've got a good point when you rail against basing a player's future on anything other than his contributions on the ice...but those mentioned were on mediocre teams at best for all those years--even with two of the top-20 centers in the league
oh, and btw, Girgensons isn't a go getter, he's a lioneater |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Fitz made a good point about what is considered #1. Would Hedman or Ekblad be a #1? Weber or Josi? The kid in Colorado or Suter? - rmiethaner
There's probably about 10-12 of each that most ppl would agree with
Then another group of 10-12 that ppl could make a good argument one way or the other about
Just with Hedman & Ekblad...
Ekblad made the All-Star team this year over Hedman, and last year as well I believe
Yet Stripes says Hedman over Ekblad
It's so subjective |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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There's probably about 10-12 of each that most ppl would agree with
Then another group of 10-12 that ppl could make a good argument one way or the other about
Just with Hedman & Ekblad...
Ekblad made the All-Star team this year over Hedman, and last year as well I believe
Yet Stripes says Hedman over Ekblad
It's so subjective - jdfitz77
That in itself is subjective as well.
I just think the premier defenders are more scarce than #1 centers |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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That in itself is subjective as well.
I just think the premier defenders are more scarce than #1 centers - Stripes77
True... That's my point
Wasn't necessarily saying u were wrong
Who even picks the AllStar teams now?
You're probably right about more centers vs defensemen, but I don't think it's a wide margin
Pieterangelo didn't get brought up. Did Keith or Seabrook?
If "#1" means "shutdown guy against other teams' top scorers" then u could even include guys like Hjarmalsson
There's McDonaugh for NYR, Vlassic in SJ, probably a few others that weren't mentioned as well |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Fitz made a good point about what is considered #1. Would Hedman or Ekblad be a #1? Weber or Josi? The kid in Colorado or Suter? - rmiethaner
Very good player, (Barrie) not a #1 |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Karlsson
Ekman-Larsson
Subban
Keith
Doughty
Weber
Josi
Hedman
McDonagh
Ekblad
Klingberg
Letang
2nd tier #1s
Byfuglien
Shattenkirk
Pietrangelo
Brodie
Giordano
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Karlsson
Ekman-Larsson
Subban
Keith
Doughty
Weber
Josi
Hedman
McDonagh
Ekblad
Klingberg - sbroads24
I think Seabrook & McDonaugh are VERY comparable
Having Keith on the same team gets him overlooked a little IMO
But he's one of those guys I think you could argue either way
Suter should still be on that list IMO, even with this "down" year
A bunch more u could argue one way or the other
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Karlsson
Ekman-Larsson
Subban
Keith
Doughty
Weber
Josi
Hedman
McDonagh
Ekblad
Klingberg
Letang
2nd tier #1s
Byfuglien
Shattenkirk
Pietrangelo
Brodie
Giordano - sbroads24
Dalpe and Varrone.
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seedy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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Makes sense
Although if Girgensons ends up being a "fit" on Jack's wing,
I'm ok with that
Idk why we have to have our 6 best scorers on our top2 lines?
It's ok to balance it out so we have 3 lines that can score
Look at Detroit...
Nyquist has spent a lot of time on the 3rd line this year, while guys like Helm & Abdelkader played above him
Not that you HAVE to do it that way,
But I'm not gonna argue with 25 straight years of playoffs either
It's WAY TOO SOON for any of us to say who should be on what line
It's still a work in progress - jdfitz77
100% agree on everything you're saying. I'm fine with Girgensons doing better than expected. But if he doesn't, I think He/Larsson/Foligno would make a fine 3rd line for 2-3 years. People have mentioned Bailey and Fasching in that role. It sounds good on paper until they ice the puck and the opposing team gets to put their first line out against them in their own zone. A couple of years experience being a defensive forward can keep a lot of mistakes from happening. And if they regularly play against other bottom 6 talent, I think they would do at least average work. |
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