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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 13 @ 7:25 PM ET
In theory yes but If Im moving the pick I want a d-man. I think a trade or FA signing for another top 6 forward is possible without using that pick. Im not sure the same is true about a top pair d-man.

I really like Drouin but there's still a lot of risk there.

- Sabresfan-365


You would prefer to trade the pick for Lindholm, no? I just get really intrigued with the possibility of Eichel and drouin on the same line.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 7:26 PM ET
In theory yes but If Im moving the pick I want a d-man. I think a trade or FA signing for another top 6 forward is possible without using that pick. Im not sure the same is true about a top pair d-man.

I really like Drouin but there's still a lot of risk there.

- Sabresfan-365


I'm all for moving the pick of its in the 5-10 range. But I'm not moving it for Drouin. I'm moving for a defenseman like you said.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 7:26 PM ET
This is interesting...wouldn't be surprised if Murray explores it.
- Deuce81


Drouin was a #3 overall in a non-descript draft. he's been disappointing for whatever reason. I don't think we trade a #5 or #6 overall in a strong draft for potential bust.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Mar 13 @ 7:29 PM ET
Why would be trade reinhart for an UFA? Makes no sense to me??
- turbo044


Exclusive negotiation rights . Reinhart is going nowhere . The kid is really starting to turn heads . He may be our Toews in a few years.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 13 @ 7:29 PM ET
If our pick is 5-7 would you move it for him?
- mhp


Devils advocate response as u truly agree...are we nuts for using this year's first for anything other than a LHD? One can be gotten for other assets, but wouldn't a 5-7 pick be a great start to the LHD solution (whether we draft or trade it).

I like Drouin and think he could be a future all star so I will simply take him and adapt, but I would have inner turmoil about it.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 13 @ 7:32 PM ET
Devils advocate response as u truly agree...are we nuts for using this year's first for anything other than a LHD? One can be gotten for other assets, but wouldn't a 5-7 pick be a great start to the LHD solution (whether we draft or trade it).

I like Drouin and think he could be a future all star so I will simply take him and adapt, but I would have inner turmoil about it.

- RhinoFan


Good post.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Mar 13 @ 7:40 PM ET
Just watched the Rick Jeanneret call from the Eichel goal...

...that man is a god
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 7:43 PM ET
Devils advocate response as u truly agree...are we nuts for using this year's first for anything other than a LHD? One can be gotten for other assets, but wouldn't a 5-7 pick be a great start to the LHD solution (whether we draft or trade it).

I like Drouin and think he could be a future all star so I will simply take him and adapt, but I would have inner turmoil about it.

- RhinoFan


And the top 3 defensemen are all LHD and are currently ranked around #5, #6 and #10 overall. Seems like a fit - let's see whom GMTM likes best. Now, if we get lucky enough to get pick #1, 2 or 3 that changes things.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 7:59 PM ET
And the top 3 defensemen are all LHD and are currently ranked around #5, #6 and #10 overall. Seems like a fit - let's see whom GMTM likes best. Now, if we get lucky enough to get pick #1, 2 or 3 that changes things.
- turbo044

I don't know if we'd find buyers, but if we pick 5 - 10 I'd explore trading the pick in a package for an established LHD to pair w Risto.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:07 PM ET
If that's all it took it would've happened by now no?

Big price tag for him and it's only going to get bigger now that he's back playing with the AHL affiliate.

- Sabresfan-365

I would think our 1st really wasnt on the table at the deadline, due to the uncertainty of were would be selecting. After thelottery, I very much could see our 2016 1st in play.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 8:11 PM ET
I don't know if we'd find buyers, but if we pick 5 - 10 I'd explore trading the pick in a package for an established LHD to pair w Risto.
- Der Kaiser


If it's the right LHD. Someone like Fowler I'm not sure if it's the right dman?? I question why a team with a top pairng LHDman would want to.trade him for a prospect anyway. Maybe salary cap I guess, but who's available??
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 8:12 PM ET
I would think our 1st really wasnt on the table at the deadline, due to the uncertainty of were would be selecting. After thelottery, I very much could see our 2016 1st in play.
- Mentalorgasm5

+ the draft of.course is in Buffalo
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
If it's the right LHD. Someone like Fowler I'm not sure if it's the right dman?? I question why a team with a top pairng LHDman would want to.trade him for a prospect anyway. Maybe salary cap I guess, but who's available??
- turbo044


Imo: Lindholm, Vlasic, Shattenkirk (last one being a righty but i guess beggars cant be choosers)

Ducks have an internal cap, probably not actively shopping Lindholm but if it's enough of an overpayment...

I say it every year but barring a long playoff run I assume they'll go through some kind of rebuild. Vlasic has 2 years left and they nave no 1st rounder (and just gave up 2 for roman freaking polak)

Shattenkirk's name has popped up quite often this year, they're tight against the cap so unless they're down to move Schwartz (which we should be in on if that's the case) it sounds like Shattenkirk will be the one who goes.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
Imo: Lindholm, Vlasic, Shattenkirk (last one being a righty but i guess beggars cant be choosers)

Ducks have an internal cap, probably not actively shopping Lindholm but if it's enough of an overpayment...

I say it every year but barring a long playoff run I assume they'll go through some kind of rebuild. Vlasic has 2 years left and they nave no 1st rounder (and just gave up 2 for roman freaking polak)

Shattenkirk's name has popped up quite often this year, they're tight against the cap so unless they're down to move Schwartz (which we should be in on if that's the case) it sounds like Shattenkirk will be the one who goes.

- Sabresfan-365



Yeah to Lindholm, but can't see them moving him. I was watching shattenkirk yesterday, lamenting he wasn't left handed.he was that good. Though 2 goals and almost a hat trick will do that, I suppose
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
I would seriously consider it. You get an NHL ready player in drouin and TB wants to re-load they'll get a nice d prospect (Chychrun, Sergachev, Juolevi). A win-win. A big sorta splash at the draft in Buffalo.
- mhp


Is Drouin with all his "potential" baggage worth more than whoever is sitting at 5-7 ? Very debatable ..............
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 13 @ 9:11 PM ET
+ the draft of.course is in Buffalo
- turbo044


And this means what exactly? That Murray will be inclined to do something that he wouldn't normally do if the draft was somewhere else? That kind of thinking is what gets guys fired.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
And this means what exactly? That Murray will be inclined to do something that he wouldn't normally do if the draft was somewhere else? That kind of thinking is what gets guys fired.
- fastek



Devils did it in 2013, and the Pens did it the year before too. It might be the GM, it might be ownership or it might be both. You want to make a splash on draft day when you're hosting but the fact is this is the sort of deal they should be exploring no matter where the draft is, it's just an added incentive to get it done during that time slot.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Mar 13 @ 9:22 PM ET
With Winnipeg Edmonton and Calgary all tied at 51 points. 4 Points back of Buffalo. Flames and Jets two games in hand on Buffalo and Buffalo one game in hand on Edmonton. What are the realistic chances two of them catch us so we fall to fourth last for the draft.?
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:24 PM ET
With Winnipeg Edmonton and Calgary all tied at 51 points. 4 Points back of Buffalo. Flames and Jets two games in hand on Buffalo and Buffalo one game in hand on Edmonton. What are the realistic chances two of them catch us so we fall to fourth last for the draft.?
- bluengold12


The ping pong balls have a say in the top 4 spots this year.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
What's this I hear about Garth getting banned? How'd that happen?
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Mar 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
The ping pong balls have a say in the top 4 spots this year.
- Maximum Signal

Endmonton is getting the first pick. Again
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 10:23 PM ET
Endmonton is getting the first pick. Again
- c1067

Naw T.O. Edmonton gets 2nd.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:24 PM ET
Alright Bernier!
Can't believe the Wings just lost to that crappy team
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 13 @ 10:26 PM ET
The ping pong balls have a say in the top 4 spots this year.
- Maximum Signal


Top 3
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Mar 13 @ 10:30 PM ET
Naw T.O. Edmonton gets 2nd.
- Pope of Pucks

I say Columbus gets 1. Bettman wants to "grow the league"
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