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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
He's playing with Palat (27 points in 49 games) and Kucherov (55 Points in 67 games). I'd say Jack is better than both of them next year. As for a prediction of his total points next year, I'd say if he gets a great winger to play with, along with reinhart, he could be a point a game player
- turbo044

Kucherov is a very good player, sneaky good


Eichel has more talent, of course but Kucherov is no scrub


Palat is just blah I'd put Johnson on that stamkos line and drop palat


but the bolts like to roll 3 lines
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
But Homie, why bother trading down from say #5 to #9?? Just take the player you like best at #5. You probably won't get a hell of a lot for the trade down? Now, if somebody wants to offer me a 2017 1st rounder to do it, I do that
- turbo044

I wouldn't trade down unless I was picking 9th-12th

No doubt I make the pick in the top 8, unless a deal is on the table for a D man
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
DRAFT TICKETS - btw, has anybody heard anything about when these will become available via lottery, whatever? A few of us are making the trek from CT but haven't heard anything as of yet
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer

Former Bills defensive line coach Karl Dunbar, fired Sunday, released a statement through his agent Monday saying he was "completely surprised and disappointed" by the decision. He also thanked the organization.





No valuevison in WNY?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:26 PM ET
DRAFT TICKETS - btw, has anybody heard anything about when these will become available via lottery, whatever? A few of us are making the trek from CT but haven't heard anything as of yet
- turbo044

Ek is having a contest to give some away
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:27 PM ET
DRAFT TICKETS - btw, has anybody heard anything about when these will become available via lottery, whatever? A few of us are making the trek from CT but haven't heard anything as of yet
- turbo044


Been planning for a year to go up to the draft as well, have even written to the Sabres before and blown off saying info will be out later.

16 hour drive, I want tickets.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:29 PM ET
Been planning for a year to go up to the draft as well, have even written to the Sabres before and blown off saying info will be out later.

16 hour drive, I want tickets.

- stashu


They were easy to get in Miami last year, but the demand will be huge n Buffalo. I'll pay a premium if I have toot missing it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
Been planning for a year to go up to the draft as well, have even written to the Sabres before and blown off saying info will be out later.

16 hour drive, I want tickets.

- stashu

http://www.sportsmanageme...-sports-career-conference
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
They were easy to get in Miami last year, but the demand will be huge n Buffalo. I'll pay a premium if I have toot missing it
- turbo044

http://www.sportsmanageme...-sports-career-conference
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/conferences/nhl-draft-sports-career-conference
- homiedclown


Interesting, though I have no interest in that type of career
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:48 PM ET
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/conferences/nhl-draft-sports-career-conference
- homiedclown


Looks like something all Buzzers should attend.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:51 PM ET
Looks like something all Buzzers should attend.
- stashu



Was thinking we could all be expert speakers for the GM classes....
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:52 PM ET
I wouldn't trade down unless I was picking 9th-12th

No doubt I make the pick in the top 8, unless a deal is on the table for a D man

- homiedclown

you find a cap strapped team i agree that a top 4 guy would be available with the swap of picks
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
Was thinking we could all be expert speakers for the GM classes....
- Havic3814


Screw that, we could all come on to here and boast about the "training" we had received and how we're all much more qualified!!!!

sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
17th in latest draft done yesterday


I take one of the d man in the 6-8 range, look to trade down at 9

- homiedclown


The last game I watched him in he completely dominated.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:58 PM ET
The last game I watched him in he completely dominated.
- sippyd

Agreed was the best player out there
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Mar 15 @ 2:46 PM ET
Just another take on the Stamkos thing............

If he hits the open market he's going to be motivated to land in a spot that gives him the best chance to win. There are teams in this league that are a player like him away from being a dominate force. Teams that are really good now but can't quite seem to break through to the top. Teams like Nashville, St. Louis, Dallas, Florida, San Jose, Detroit etc.

Now not all if any of these teams will be able to afford him but those are where I see the best fit for him ......... if he wants to win. The Sabres are not close to that group. We are what we are unfortunately ...............likely a playoff team next year with him but not at the level of the teams I mentioned above for a few more years.

People say .... why wouldn't you want Stamkos ....... it's crazy ! It's not necessarily that I wouldn't want him on the team .......... I just know it's never going to happen so why fret over it and be disappointed in the end. There's quite a few guys here that are going to be calling for Murray's head when he doesn't land Stamkos based on the pipedream ............... not fair to Murray. We're just not there yet .....
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Mar 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Just another take on the Stamkos thing............

If he hits the open market he's going to be motivated to land in a spot that gives him the best chance to win. There are teams in this league that are a player like him away from being a dominate force. Teams that are really good now but can't quite seem to break through to the top. Teams like Nashville, St. Louis, Dallas, Florida, San Jose, Detroit etc.

Now not all if any of these teams will be able to afford him but those are where I see the best fit for him ......... if he wants to win. The Sabres are not close to that group. We are what we are unfortunately ...............likely a playoff team next year with him but not at the level of the teams I mentioned above for a few more years.

People say .... why wouldn't you want Stamkos ....... it's crazy ! It's not necessarily that I wouldn't want him on the team .......... I just know it's never going to happen so why fret over it and be disappointed in the end. There's quite a few guys here that are going to be calling for Murray's head when he doesn't land Stamkos based on the pipedream ............... not fair to Murray. We're just not there yet .....

- fastek


Yep - a defense mechanism so when he signs elsewhere they can say they didn't want him anyway. What Buffalo has over all those other cities (a lot of which couldn't absorb the cap hit anyway) is It's 90 minutes from his home, without the media scrutiny of his home. Who knows if it means anything to him, but it can't hurt
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Good point.

Who have been the top FAs the past few years?
Ones i remember:
Statsny
Brad Richards

- yen6d1



I finally put a finger on exactly what's been bothering me.

And let me say it up front, I'm not saying we shouldn't go for stamkos, I'm just saying we should be careful about it.

ONE OF THE TOP FA's in the last few years, an elite guy who averaged 45 goals a season until he was 26, and then averaged 22 goals a season after he signed an unprecedented Free Agent Contract

is Ilya Kovulchuk.


And we all know how that turned out.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
Based on Murray's comments to Craig Sustance......Me thinks Rick Nash is a Sabre next year.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
I finally put a finger on exactly what's been bothering me.

And let me say it up front, I'm not saying we shouldn't go for stamkos, I'm just saying we should be careful about it.

ONE OF THE TOP FA's in the last few years, an elite guy who averaged 45 goals a season until he was 26, and then averaged 22 goals a season after he signed an unprecedented Free Agent Contract

is Ilya Kovulchuk.


And we all know how that turned out.

- Der Kaiser

They went to the cup final?

Edit: And then got out of paying all of his salary and got their 1st round pick back for front loading the deal. Sound like they struck and got a home run. Got what they wanted in a good player, went far in the playoffs, then were off the hook. If that could happen to us, it'd be great.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Mar 15 @ 3:00 PM ET
I finally put a finger on exactly what's been bothering me.

And let me say it up front, I'm not saying we shouldn't go for stamkos, I'm just saying we should be careful about it.

ONE OF THE TOP FA's in the last few years, an elite guy who averaged 45 goals a season until he was 26, and then averaged 22 goals a season after he signed an unprecedented Free Agent Contract

is Ilya Kovulchuk.


And we all know how that turned out.

- Der Kaiser


Odds are zero he bolts to the KHL.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 15 @ 3:03 PM ET
Based on Murray's comments to Craig Sustance......Me thinks Rick Nash is a Sabre next year.
- sbroads24

32 year old that costs almost 8 Million for the next 2 years? If we're doing that I want half the salary taken. Otherwise, no thanks. Especially if I'm giving up assets to get him.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Mar 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
Just another take on the Stamkos thing............

If he hits the open market he's going to be motivated to land in a spot that gives him the best chance to win. There are teams in this league that are a player like him away from being a dominate force. Teams that are really good now but can't quite seem to break through to the top. Teams like Nashville, St. Louis, Dallas, Florida, San Jose, Detroit etc.

Now not all if any of these teams will be able to afford him but those are where I see the best fit for him ......... if he wants to win. The Sabres are not close to that group. We are what we are unfortunately ...............likely a playoff team next year with him but not at the level of the teams I mentioned above for a few more years.

People say .... why wouldn't you want Stamkos ....... it's crazy ! It's not necessarily that I wouldn't want him on the team .......... I just know it's never going to happen so why fret over it and be disappointed in the end. There's quite a few guys here that are going to be calling for Murray's head when he doesn't land Stamkos based on the pipedream ............... not fair to Murray. We're just not there yet .....

- fastek


My feelings . I just can't deal with the ridicule we will receive from every fan base in the league . Especially Toronto . I would rather be quiet and if it happens . Being able to rub their face in it. Mods better get their rest . If we do not land him it will be non stop troll central here.
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

Mar 15 @ 3:05 PM ET
Yep - a defense mechanism so when he signs elsewhere they can say they didn't want him anyway. What Buffalo has over all those other cities (a lot of which couldn't absorb the cap hit anyway) is It's 90 minutes from his home, without the media scrutiny of his home. Who knows if it means anything to him, but it can't hurt
- turbo044


There's such a small group of teams that could absorb his cap hit. I think it comes down to how buffalo compares to the others in that group in terms of winning soon. Toronto has the space, but is clearly behind us in the rebuild process.

We may not be Cup contenders next year, but we may very well be the closest to it of the limited options out there. That is assuming the price tag is $11 mil.
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