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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:20 PM ET
I think he really only has AHL upside right? He is a d-first d-man who had a decent NCAA career.. Admittedly I dont know much about him.
- jak521


Never seen him play but I don't think Hextall would give him an ELC if they didn't think he had NHL upside.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think he really only has AHL upside right? He is a d-first d-man who had a decent NCAA career.. Admittedly I dont know much about him.
- jak521

Just looked at his stats briefly only 2 goals and 13 points. 45 shots on goal in 33 games. One thing that really stuck out to me is that he took one penalty all year. Had a total of 2 penalty minutes.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think he really only has AHL upside right? He is a d-first d-man who had a decent NCAA career.. Admittedly I dont know much about him.
- jak521



He has good size. He isn't bad with the puck even though he isn't really an offensive guy. I think he could be a nice set him a forget him type. Doesn't try to do things he can't.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
Looking at the 2012 draft I just noticed Ghost was born on 4-20. No wonder he plays at such a high level...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
Just looked at his stats briefly only 2 goals and 13 points. 45 shots on goal in 33 games. One thing that really stuck out to me is that he took one penalty all year. Had a total of 2 penalty minutes.
- TobyFlenderson


30 PIM for his entire 120 game college career.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=93550
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Looking at the 2012 draft I just noticed Ghost was born on 4-20. No wonder he plays at such a high level...
- Feanor

danks for this nugget of information
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
30 PIM for his entire 120 game college career.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=93550

- Feanor



Well then he can't be a Flyer, you guys are supposed to be the scourge of the NHL and all dirty playing punks.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
hes nicknamed ghost because of the cloud of smoke he puffs out when he smokes WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- orangekrush2010


Gandolf approves.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
hes nicknamed ghost because of the cloud of smoke he puffs out when he smokes WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- orangekrush2010

big, if true
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
30 PIM for his entire 120 game college career.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=93550

- Feanor

Also see he was the captain for Cornell. Wonder how much of a minutes eater he is.. Maybe a Schultz type for all I know..
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
big, if true
- BulliesPhan87


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Thats literally exactly what I was going for! Thank you so much for your astute interpretation!
- jak521


You're welcome.

But really, the chances are that the combo of Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, and unnamed 2016 draft pick are collectively better and/or cheaper than Weber. That said, it's 1 in the hand versus 4 in the bush, and there was always the possibility of trading some of those first back to Philly for prospects/players. Plus Shea Weber is my favorite NHL player, so I'm biased.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
big, if true
- BulliesPhan87

You ever see his baby pictures?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:34 PM ET
You're welcome.

But really, the chances are that the combo of Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, and unnamed 2016 draft pick are collectively better and/or cheaper than Weber. That said, it's 1 in the hand versus 4 in the bush, and there was always the possibility of trading some of those first back to Philly for prospects/players. Plus Shea Weber is my favorite NHL player, so I'm biased.

- jmatchett383

The point of the article is that really that because the Flyers were unable to land him, they have been able to really revamp the entire defense through the draft. It is not about filling his spot, but that idea that not getting him allowed us (forced) to really invest heavily on def for the future.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
You ever see his baby pictures?
- jak521


he's the 2nd from the right.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
The point of the article is that really that because the Flyers were unable to land him, they have been able to really revamp the entire defense through the draft. It is not about filling his spot, but that idea that not getting him allowed us (forced) to really invest heavily on def for the future.
- jak521


I understand. I am simply stating that, as hyped as Morin/Sanheim/Provorov are, they have yet to collectively do anything at the NHL level. They could all be top-pair elite guys, they could all be bottom-4 guys. The reality is probably somewhere in between. But I would still have liked Weber because he was a proven commodity.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
30 PIM for his entire 120 game college career.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=93550

- Feanor

Wow. Pretty impressive, especially for a defenseman. Speaking of which I think Provorov had 16 PIM this season, 12 of which came on this play: http://www.broadstreethoc...-pls-dont-hurt-each-other
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
Flyers sign Reece Willcox to an ELC
- nastyflyergirl


Nice. Good fit for the phantoms next year
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think he really only has AHL upside right? He is a d-first d-man who had a decent NCAA career.. Admittedly I dont know much about him.
- jak521


Only saw him play twice. Seemed to move well, decent size. Didn't handle puck like a grenade in either game. Didn't stand out, either, but as a defense-first defenseman, that's kind of the idea.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
You ever see his baby pictures?
- jak521

not really into that like you, broh
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
Wow. Pretty impressive, especially for a defenseman. Speaking of which I think Provorv had 16 PIM this season, 12 of which came on this play: http://www.broadstreethoc...-pls-dont-hurt-each-other
- TobyFlenderson


What would be fan base reaction have been if Sanheim had thrown Provorov down and caused him to retire due to head injuries?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:42 PM ET
not really into that like you, broh
- BulliesPhan87

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:43 PM ET
Only saw him play twice. Seemed to move well, decent size. Didn't handle puck like a grenade in either game. Didn't stand out, either, but as a defense-first defenseman, that's kind of the idea.
- Jsaquella


Waiting on lindblom....

Tic toc tic toc
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 21 @ 1:43 PM ET
What would be fan base reaction have been if Sanheim had thrown Provorov down and caused him to retire due to head injuries?
- jmatchett383

I honestly think they wrestled a bit knowing full well that they didnt wanna harm each other lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
I honestly think they wrestled a bit knowing full well that they didnt wanna harm each other lol
- jak521


Maybe. Also highly doubtful, as Provorov probably has the edge physically, although Sanheim has the reach.
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