I base my feelings on realistic expectations for growth


right now girgens looks like a 5th round pick on the ice, not a 1st rd pick


we would be no worse had we kept mitchell or flynn for his current roll then this lion eater
- homiedclown

So again players can't have a down year in the midst of a huge transition... but you want stamkos who's been down and i don't remember there being any huge changes in Tampa for the last few years...

So again players can't have a down year in the midst of a huge transition... but you want stamkos who's been down and i don't remember there being any huge changes in Tampa for the last few years...
- Havic3814

he goes from line 1, to line 3 and regresses


it should be the other way around

he goes from line 1, to line 3 and regresses


it should be the other way around
- homiedclown

Why? I would argue you're third and 4th lines play differently than your top 2

Girgensons has business in the top 6 and if he is next year, this team deserves to lose. He needs to be on the 3rd line or traded, we can keep Larsson for less then what it will cost to resign boy wonder.

So again players can't have a down year in the midst of a huge transition... but you want stamkos who's been down and i don't remember there being any huge changes in Tampa for the last few years...
- Havic3814

34G and 26A..... Ill take that "down" all day everyday.




And twice on Sunday.

Girgensons has business in the top 6 and if he is next year, this team deserves to lose. He needs to be on the 3rd line or traded, we can keep Larsson for less then what it will cost to resign boy wonder.
- SABRES 89

oh my

34G and 26A..... Ill take that "down" all day everyday.




And twice on Sunday.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

It just amazes me with people on this blog, we have a chance to get a premier player in this league and because they claim his scoring is down, they don't want him or are finding every way not to sign him. But let's keep defending Grirgensons

Nice to see Girgens get the GWG tonight and get out of his funk




oh wait that was Larsson
- homiedclown

Hahahah this is a great post

Girgensons has business in the top 6 and if he is next year, this team deserves to lose. He needs to be on the 3rd line or traded, we can keep Larsson for less then what it will cost to resign boy wonder.
- SABRES 89

We have a saying at work that peeps are promoted to their level of incompetence. My opinion, Girgs will be a competent 3rd line center that can pull 'spot' duty in top six.

Do we try to get Bobby Ryan from the Sens if they make big changes?

So again players can't have a down year in the midst of a huge transition... but you want stamkos who's been down and i don't remember there being any huge changes in Tampa for the last few years...
- Havic3814

He's tied for 5th in the league in goals. That's still elite production

We have a saying at work that peeps are promoted to their level of incompetence. My opinion, Girgs will be a competent 3rd line center that can pull 'spot' duty in top six.
- sammysam13

Girgs is the perfect 3rd line center and nothing more IMO.

He's tied for 5th in the league in goals. That's still elite production
- sbroads24

Stop with your facts already.

He's tied for 5th in the league in goals. That's still elite production
- sbroads24

It appears people have missed my previous posts where i've stated I WANT Stamkos... but my point is that if you want to rid yourself of one player that is playing a different line in a different role without the players he played and had success with last year but take on a player that hasn't had those changes and yet is still in what i would call the 3rd year of not hitting his potential peak doesn't that make you wonder?

He's tied for 5th in the league in goals. That's still elite production
- sbroads24

Worth 12 mil a year?

Worth 12 mil a year?
- Havic3814

Yes just like McGinn will get 4.5 or more a year, it's the way it's going no in the NHL. 20 goals gets you 4-5 a year.

It appears people have missed my previous posts where i've stated I WANT Stamkos... but my point is that if you want to rid yourself of one player that is playing a different line in a different role without the players he played and had success with last year but take on a player that hasn't had those changes and yet is still in what i would call the 3rd year of not hitting his potential peak doesn't that make you wonder?
- Havic3814

No one is scoring 60 in this league right now. He's still at worst a top 10 NHL goal scorer at 26.

is he worth 12? Maybe not. I would still pay him that. Because he is one of the leagues best

Yes just like McGinn will get 4.5 or more a year, it's the way it's going no in the NHL. 20 goals gets you 4-5 a year.
- SABRES 89

So Stamkos gets us 40 and we're paying him 12?

But meanwhile we're concerned about a player we're paying under 1million lol why is that guy under such scrutiny to produce but the potential 12 million highest paid player in the league get a pass?

No one is scoring 60 in this league right now. He's still at worst a top 10 NHL goal scorer at 26.

is he worth 12? Maybe not. I would still pay him that. Because he is one of the leagues best
- sbroads24

And when the cap goes up it won't hurt as much. Not to mention if you find a way out of Moulson's contract that's almost half of the space right there. If we get rid of Moulson and Ennis that's almost all of it. You're getting Stamkos for 3M more than you're spending on 28 points.

So Stamkos gets us 40 and we're paying him 12?

But meanwhile we're concerned about a player we're paying under 1million lol why is that guy under such scrutiny to produce but the potential 12 million highest paid player in the league get a pass?
- Havic3814

They just don't like where Girgs is slotted. If he was 3rd C or 3rd Wing some might female dog but not as much. I tend to agree and I enjoy Girgs. He's playing out of position and out of his element. It's like when we would put Hecht-Gaustad-Ellis out with 40 seconds left and down a goal. It's not the fact that they're making what they're making, it's the fact that they are being put in a position they don't belong.

Put Stamkos on that line and at 12M he's a better fit than Girgs.

They just don't like where Girgs is slotted. If he was 3rd C or 3rd Wing some might female dog but not as much. I tend to agree and I enjoy Girgs. He's playing out of position and out of his element. It's like when we would put Hecht-Gaustad-Ellis out with 40 seconds left and down a goal. It's not the fact that they're making what they're making, it's the fact that they are being put in a position they don't belong.

Put Stamkos on that line and at 12M he's a better fit than Girgs.
- Zschalberg

Thank you that was my entire point...

So Stamkos gets us 40 and we're paying him 12?

But meanwhile we're concerned about a player we're paying under 1million lol why is that guy under such scrutiny to produce but the potential 12 million highest paid player in the league get a pass?
- Havic3814

aside from maybe chara, stamkos is the biggest free agent to hit the market since #99

aside from maybe chara, stamkos is the biggest free agent to hit the market since #99
- homiedclown

Great story

Girgs is the perfect 3rd line center and nothing more IMO.
- SABRES 89

then why is larsoon the 3rd line center, not girgs?

Great story
- Havic3814

I hope there is a happy ending to the story with stamkos passing the cup to ror in FNC