the smart move is to pay a little extra and get stamkos and keep the assets so they can make trades to get 1 or 2 d men IMO
- homiedclown

We've agreed too much lately, i miss the old days

they moved zadorov, myers, gringo, lemieux, compher, armia, a first rd pick and pick 31 in the draft to get these 3 guys, plus the traditional 2nd rd pick they would have received for staff


I don't think the cupboard is full enough to give another 4 pieces like that plus for hall

oilers would want mccabe, guhle, a first (maybe 2017), bailey and fasching

no way I give up that many assets, hell they would want reinhart plus 2 of those probably
- homiedclown

I'm not sure Hall is moved for youth, IMO he only gets moved for a top pair defenseman. They need to start winning now and young defenseman and draft picks just aren't going to make that happen.

He's having his Drew Stafford moment. Whichever team bites and gives him 4-5 mil will regret it in a year or two.
- Sabresfan-365

He'll show up as number 10 on the bad contracts list.

they make lousy drunks
- homiedclown

thats why i don't drink

I'm not sure Hall is moved for youth, IMO he only gets moved for a top pair defenseman. They need to start winning now and young defenseman and draft picks just aren't going to make that happen.
- BigStew

It doesn't make sense for them to move Hall for anything other than a top pair defenseman
Obviously we aren't giving up Risto
So I don't see a way we make a trade with them unless they feel they can get that defenseman with the pick we'd give up

My Sabres season awards

Rookie of the year: Jack Eichel
MVP of the team: Ryan O'Riley
LVP of the team: Matt Moulson
Biggest surprise: Sam Reinhart
Biggest let down: Zemgus Girgensons
Best defenceman: Rasmus Ristolainen (Despite his recent struggles)
Worst defeneceman: Carlo Colicavo
Biggest unknown: Tie between Ennis and Lehner

I think the contract situation has clearly been a distraction

And I think that it's understated that the talent he's played with has been pretty average since StLouis was traded

We're on here all the time talking about how we need to find talented enough wingers to play with Eichel...
I don't see how it's any different with Stamkos
Of course his #s are gonna drop when he's consistently playing with guys he's gotta carry- instead of guys that can also help "create"

It's very reasonable to think his #s would leap back up if he were playing with Jack or Sam or O'Reilly
- jdfitz77

1. Tampa is sitting at 89 points right now. They are hardly average around Stamkos.. even is his down year.

2. Stamkos is a center so he will not be playing with Jack and ROR. He will not come here and play wing and neither will ROR. That's a fact and neither is going to budge on that. Perhaps Jack could be moved to wing but not likely.

My Sabres season awards

Rookie of the year: Jack Eichel
MVP of the team: Ryan O'Riley
LVP of the team: Matt Moulson
Biggest surprise: Sam Reinhart
Biggest let down: Zemgus Girgensons
Best defenceman: Rasmus Ristolainen (Despite his recent struggles)
Worst defeneceman: Carlo Colicavo
Biggest unknown: Tie between Ennis and Lehner
- bluengold12

to me i think the only unknown on Lehner will be can he stay healthy.. When he was playing i liked his game.

LVP: Cody McMuscle

It doesn't make sense for them to move Hall for anything other than a top pair defenseman
Obviously we aren't giving up Risto
So I don't see a way we make a trade with them unless they feel they can get that defenseman with the pick we'd give up
- jdfitz77

Hall won't be here, we just don't have what the Oilers want unless we trade Risto and I don't see that happening.

My bet, Hall never leaves Edmonton until he's a UFA (or a year away from it for a lot less than he should get) as I don't see any GM giving up a top pair guy for him as it's very difficult to find top pair guys on the back end.

the smart move is to pay a little extra and get stamkos and keep the assets so they can make trades to get 1 or 2 d men IMO
- homiedclown

The smarter move would be to lose out this year and draft the next Stamkos in the draft ... for NOTHING

1. Tampa is sitting at 89 points right now. They are hardly average around Stamkos.. even is his down year.

2. Stamkos is a center so he will not be playing with Jack and ROR. He will not come here and play wing and neither will ROR. That's a fact and neither is going to budge on that. Perhaps Jack could be moved to wing but not likely.
- fastek

that puts ROR as your 3rd line center then

1. Tampa is sitting at 89 points right now. They are hardly average around Stamkos.. even is his down year.

2. Stamkos is a center so he will not be playing with Jack and ROR. He will not come here and play wing and neither will ROR. That's a fact and neither is going to budge on that. Perhaps Jack could be moved to wing but not likely.
- fastek

The FACT is that your OPINION is just an opinion
It's entirely possible that Jack could play the wing. Or even that Stamkos MIGHT be willing if his center was as talented as Eichel instead of Filppula or Namestnikov

And I wasn't speaking about Tampa overall...
I was speaking of his linemates
He's been playing with no one close to his talent since StLouis left

Try again sir

The smarter move would be to lose out this year and draft the next Stamkos in the draft ... for NOTHING
- fastek

is there a "stamkos" available at this draft. and if so who is he?

Just saw Ek's blog about Taylor Hall...

If true...this is the no brainer fallback plan if the Sabres can't land stamkos

Hall won't be here, we just don't have what the Oilers want unless we trade Risto and I don't see that happening.

My bet, Hall never leaves Edmonton until he's a UFA (or a year away from it for a lot less than he should get) as I don't see any GM giving up a top pair guy for him as it's very difficult to find top pair guys on the back end.
- BigStew

They might be able to get a guy (from the Ducks possibly...) that could turn into a top pair guy
But ya... I don't see Arizona (for example) giving up OEL for him
Or Montreal giving up Subban, etc etc

This is a petty point but one I don't get... Why if they knew Fasching would be up with the club this year and play games, wouldn't they ask him what number he wanted? I'm sure the kid doesn't care and is just happy to play but 24 is open and he probably would've preferred that to 52..

They might be able to get a guy (from the Ducks possibly...) that could turn into a top pair guy
But ya... I don't see Arizona (for example) giving up OEL for him
Or Montreal giving up Subban, etc etc
- jdfitz77

Those guys are just to hard to find and even though I like Hall a lot he frustrates the hell out of me when I watch him play. For some reason, he just doesn't read the play as well as he should and leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

This is a petty point but one I don't get... Why if they knew Fasching would be up with the club this year and play games, wouldn't they ask him what number he wanted? I'm sure the kid doesn't care and is just happy to play but 24 is open and he probably would've preferred that to 52..
- bluengold12

Has anyone that has come up from Rochester this year been assigned that number?

http://www.cbssports.com/...roster/BUF/buffalo-sabres

Has anyone that has come up from Rochester this year been assigned that number?

http://www.cbssports.com/...roster/BUF/buffalo-sabres
- Maximum Signal

Not that I know of

Just saw Ek's blog about Taylor Hall...

If true...this is the no brainer fallback plan if the Sabres can't land stamkos
- feetontheair22

Problem is Hall will be moved at the draft...Stamkos can't sign until after

Would anyone trade vanek for moulson and a 3rd this year?

Would anyone trade vanek for moulson and a 3rd this year?
- yen6d1

Only signed for one more year at 1.5 more and less term.

Yes I would...

"Runs and hides"

Only signed for one more year at 1.5 more and less term.

Yes I would...

"Runs and hides"
- bluengold12

Because of term, I would do it.

Only signed for one more year at 1.5 more and less term.

Yes I would...

"Runs and hides"
- bluengold12

I would too for that exact reason

The FACT is that your OPINION is just an opinion
It's entirely possible that Jack could play the wing. Or even that Stamkos MIGHT be willing if his center was as talented as Eichel instead of Filppula or Namestnikov

And I wasn't speaking about Tampa overall...
I was speaking of his linemates
He's been playing with no one close to his talent since StLouis left

Try again sir
- jdfitz77

He's not playing wing for anyone ......... Stamkos that is. I believe he's made that pretty clear already.