Chiarelli would never trade a star player for a meager return.
- eichiefs9

Its ironic that offensively Kessel more Points then every Islander not named Tavares and Ok. His 47 points Point him in the same category as James Neil and Drew Doughty... Is he Hall NOOOOO! Meager LOLOLOLOLOL...

Its ironic that offensively Kessel more Points then every Islander not named Tavares and Ok. His 47 points Point him in the same category as James Neil and Drew Doughty... Is he Hall NOOOOO! Meager LOLOLOLOLOL...
- Brianandr1

- eichiefs9

Which ever cool aid you ve been drinking... Its bad for your complexion... Just facts friend. I agree that the issue with kessel is the length of his contract and "uneven" performance... Still statistically he's better then every Islander except Tavares and ok ...

Karlsson isn't going to EDM unless Mcdavid is involved. So not happening.



To Ott: Hall

To EDM: Hoffman, Weicoch & 2016 1st (8th - 11th overall)
- Erik6Karlsson5

Doesn't address Edmonton's need. However....Hoffman, a first in 2016 or 2017, plus one of Ceci, Chabot or O'Connor might.

Instead of a first you can do a swap of starting goalies too, including Anderson and Talbot in the deal.

But any Islanders deal involving Hamonic and Strome makes a too much sense over whatever Ottawa can offer.

Maybe, but I'd be willing to bet that the viability of long-term contention is the top priority. Not just maybe squeaking into the playoffs once or twice before Weber's game take's a major downward turn. If I were Chiarelli, I'd push for a way to make it Josi or else I wouldn't make the deal.

I really only see three teams that would be willing to move a truly talented defenseman for Hall. The Isles, the Ducks, and the Blues.

Right off the bat I'd cross Anaheim off that list, because let's be real...the Oilers aren't going to want to move Hall in-division.

Shattenkirk is the most talented of the group and provides major offense from the back-end. No arguing he's the biggest star. That said, he's only got one more year remaining on his deal. Chiarelli would either get burned like Snow did on the Vanek deal, if Shatty doesn't want stay in EDM, or he'd have to fork over a ton of money/cap space.

Hamonic is the youngest, cheapest, and signed until 2020. Anyone who doesn't think Hamonic is a #2 defenseman on 2/3+ of the teams in the league isn't watching him enough. He's not flashy, but he does everything very well. He's not the type of cornerstone player you build a franchise around, but he would be an extremely welcomed cog on any teams blueline. Isles would have to add a significant amount to make the deal work for Hall, but I don't think it's out of the question.
- eichiefs9

This is well written. While I don't agree with everything, it's the best comment on the topic so far.

The Oilers obviously need to make a big splash this year. They've got a new rink coming next year and another top 5 pick at the draft. Taylor Hall is their best (tradable) asset. For better or worse, they've committed to Cam Talbot (ntc) until Broissot is ready. They need ESTABLISHED defence and they need it in June.

I realize a lot of you are on the East coast and don't watch Hall play live and are basing his value on the scoresheet and his draft pedigree. I might be aligned with the Canucks but I watch a lot of Edmonton games. What the stat sheet doesn't tell you is how often he turns over the puck. It's honestly embarrassing. That's the kind of stuff that NHL scouts see and will hurt his trade value.

If NYI offer one of Strome/Nelson with Hamonic the Oilers have to take it.

I disagree that they won't trade in their division with Anaheim. This is going to be a hockey trade and they may likely have the best offer on the table. Vatanen/Lindholm, Pirri/Rackell/Ritchie, and a prospect/pick should be enough to get it done.

The situation with STL gets really interesting if you add Yakupov to the mix. I can see a scenario where a deal is consumated with Shattenkirk/Pietrangelo and Schwartz for Hall and Yakupov as the core of it.

If Minny wants to get involved they could offer Coyle, Dumba/Frolin

I think Wayne Simmons is exactly the type of forward Edmonton needs and Gudas would be a great addition as well but they can't trade their best asset and not fulfill their greatest need.

This will not be the year to trade RNH because his value is at an all time low. Hall's has never been higher and the oilers can't afford to miss this opportunity.

Doesn't address Edmonton's need. However....Hoffman, a first in 2016 or 2017, plus one of Ceci, Chabot or O'Connor might.

Instead of a first you can do a swap of starting goalies too, including Anderson and Talbot in the deal.

But any Islanders deal involving Hamonic and Strome makes a too much sense over whatever Ottawa can offer.
- GrimmdaGoalie

Lol we'd essentially be downgrading from Talbot to Anderson, and Hall to Hoffman, and be getting a very middle of the road defenseman. In other words, no thanks

This is well written. While I don't agree with everything, it's the best comment on the topic so far.

The Oilers obviously need to make a big splash this year. They've got a new rink coming next year and another top 5 pick at the draft. Taylor Hall is their best (tradable) asset. For better or worse, they've committed to Cam Talbot (ntc) until Broissot is ready. They need ESTABLISHED defence and they need it in June.

I realize a lot of you are on the East coast and don't watch Hall play live and are basing his value on the scoresheet and his draft pedigree. I might be aligned with the Canucks but I watch a lot of Edmonton games. What the stat sheet doesn't tell you is how often he turns over the puck. It's honestly embarrassing. That's the kind of stuff that NHL scouts see and will hurt his trade value.

If NYI offer one of Strome/Nelson with Hamonic the Oilers have to take it.

I disagree that they won't trade in their division with Anaheim. This is going to be a hockey trade and they may likely have the best offer on the table. Vatanen/Lindholm, Pirri/Rackell/Ritchie, and a prospect/pick should be enough to get it done.

The situation with STL gets really interesting if you add Yakupov to the mix. I can see a scenario where a deal is consumated with Shattenkirk/Pietrangelo and Schwartz for Hall and Yakupov as the core of it.

If Minny wants to get involved they could offer Coyle, Dumba/Frolin

I think Wayne Simmons is exactly the type of forward Edmonton needs and Gudas would be a great addition as well but they can't trade their best asset and not fulfill their greatest need.

This will not be the year to trade RNH because his value is at an all time low. Hall's has never been higher and the oilers can't afford to miss this opportunity.
- Max.Betts

You don't have a clue about the Oilers situation at all.

Hall is better and more valuable than any player on the Canucks roster, yes that includes your precious Sedins. We're not trading Hall (a franchise forward) for Hamonic (a good defenseman but certainly not a franchise defenseman)

However, I would look into trading Hall for Pietrangelo. I honestly doubt they would trade Pietrangelo though, unless they resign Shattenkirk and have faith in Parayko.

And one more thing: Cam Talbot is a great goalie, hes not going anywhere for a while

You don't have a clue about the Oilers situation at all.

Hall is better and more valuable than any player on the Canucks roster, yes that includes your precious Sedins. We're not trading Hall (a franchise forward) for Hamonic (a good defenseman but certainly not a franchise defenseman)

However, I would look into trading Hall for Pietrangelo. I honestly doubt they would trade Pietrangelo though, unless they resign Shattenkirk and have faith in Parayko.

And one more thing: Cam Talbot is a great goalie, hes not going anywhere for a while
- 6ringslowe

Because I don't live in Edmonton I don't have a clue about the Oilers situation? i agree he has more value than any Canucks. But let's make not beat around the bush, Hall is a franchise forward on a team that didn't have a better player until McDavid came around. Sure he's a 1st line LW on many teams in the NHL, but that doesn't make him a franchise forward. Nobody is building a team around Taylor Hall, the only one that has is still in last place 6 years later.

This is well written. While I don't agree with everything, it's the best comment on the topic so far.

The Oilers obviously need to make a big splash this year. They've got a new rink coming next year and another top 5 pick at the draft. Taylor Hall is their best (tradable) asset. For better or worse, they've committed to Cam Talbot (ntc) until Broissot is ready. They need ESTABLISHED defence and they need it in June.

I realize a lot of you are on the East coast and don't watch Hall play live and are basing his value on the scoresheet and his draft pedigree. I might be aligned with the Canucks but I watch a lot of Edmonton games. What the stat sheet doesn't tell you is how often he turns over the puck. It's honestly embarrassing. That's the kind of stuff that NHL scouts see and will hurt his trade value.

If NYI offer one of Strome/Nelson with Hamonic the Oilers have to take it.

I disagree that they won't trade in their division with Anaheim. This is going to be a hockey trade and they may likely have the best offer on the table. Vatanen/Lindholm, Pirri/Rackell/Ritchie, and a prospect/pick should be enough to get it done.

The situation with STL gets really interesting if you add Yakupov to the mix. I can see a scenario where a deal is consumated with Shattenkirk/Pietrangelo and Schwartz for Hall and Yakupov as the core of it.

If Minny wants to get involved they could offer Coyle, Dumba/Frolin

I think Wayne Simmons is exactly the type of forward Edmonton needs and Gudas would be a great addition as well but they can't trade their best asset and not fulfill their greatest need.

This will not be the year to trade RNH because his value is at an all time low. Hall's has never been higher eand the oilers can't afford to miss this opportunity.
- Max.Betts

All very fair points. Maybe I shouldn't have referred to taking the Ducks out of the equation so absolutely, but I think they'd have to pay a premium being a division rival. They have some interesting pieces to offer for sure, but it's just so rare that you see a star player traded within his current division.

Guys like Simmonds and Schwartz are nice pieces that the Oilers would undoubtedly benefit from, but I think their focus should be on getting one or more defenseman, at least one of which has to be a top 2/3 guy.

I do agree that now is the time to trade Hall if there's a deal to be had, but Chiarelli would be remiss to rush into trading him just to make a deal. He has to make sure that he gets good value back that isn't going to kill the Oilers. This is potentially a monster trade, he has to make sure he doesn't botch it.

Very fair point about Hall, not seeing a ton of him leaving on the East Coast, and his turnover issues...but while it may be a department he lacks in, we desperately need a high-scoring winger to play with Tavares. They've been trotting out a carousel of crap on his wing since we drafted him, now is the time to load up. Tavares turns the puck over plenty too, but the offense I think the two of them could produce would far outweigh the turnovers.

I'm not sure how desperate Chiarelli is, but if I'm making an assumption based off his years in Boston...he may end up taking a little less than he should due to desperation. When faced with a pending UFA in Boychuk, he flipped him for three picks. Not a terrible return, but many thought he could have gotten more. We know what happened with Seguin. Not saying he'll get fleeced, but he doesn't have the best track record when his back is against the wall.

I'm not sure what it would take from the Isles to get it done. Obviously Hamonic, but I'm not sure that just Strome will land Hall. I'd be comfortable throwing something else into that deal, depending on what it was. Barzal is untouchable. Pulock/Pelech won't be moved either, as they'll both likely be full-time NHL'ers next year. Otherwise, I think just about any prospects are fair game.

Hall is overrated. The oilers have had all these first overall picks and have drafted the wrong player every time with the exception of Mcdavid who any idiot would have taken first (ie, the oilers). Yakupov is one of the biggest busts in NHL history, Nuge is a decent 2nd line centre, and the Oilers will be kicking themselves for years for taking Taylor over Tyler. Now they think they can just dump one of their busts for some stud d-man to fix everything. The franchise should be relegated to the ECHL.

Barzal isn't untouchable when you are talking about a fairly successful number one overall pick like Hall

Barzal isn't untouchable when you are talking about a fairly successful number one overall pick like Hall
- sditulli

I can guarantee you that the Islanders will not trade Barzal.

This is well written. While I don't agree with everything, it's the best comment on the topic so far.

The Oilers obviously need to make a big splash this year. They've got a new rink coming next year and another top 5 pick at the draft. Taylor Hall is their best (tradable) asset. For better or worse, they've committed to Cam Talbot (ntc) until Broissot is ready. They need ESTABLISHED defence and they need it in June.

I realize a lot of you are on the East coast and don't watch Hall play live and are basing his value on the scoresheet and his draft pedigree. I might be aligned with the Canucks but I watch a lot of Edmonton games. What the stat sheet doesn't tell you is how often he turns over the puck. It's honestly embarrassing. That's the kind of stuff that NHL scouts see and will hurt his trade value.

If NYI offer one of Strome/Nelson with Hamonic the Oilers have to take it.

I disagree that they won't trade in their division with Anaheim. This is going to be a hockey trade and they may likely have the best offer on the table. Vatanen/Lindholm, Pirri/Rackell/Ritchie, and a prospect/pick should be enough to get it done.

The situation with STL gets really interesting if you add Yakupov to the mix. I can see a scenario where a deal is consumated with Shattenkirk/Pietrangelo and Schwartz for Hall and Yakupov as the core of it.

If Minny wants to get involved they could offer Coyle, Dumba/Frolin

I think Wayne Simmons is exactly the type of forward Edmonton needs and Gudas would be a great addition as well but they can't trade their best asset and not fulfill their greatest need.

This will not be the year to trade RNH because his value is at an all time low. Hall's has never been higher and the oilers can't afford to miss this opportunity.
- Max.Betts

Hall can't be that bad with the turnovers, or maybe he just covers them up well, or gets off the ice immediately after, or he's just that good offensively that it really doesn't matter. He's a +1 on a team collectively -37.

All very fair points. Maybe I shouldn't have referred to taking the Ducks out of the equation so absolutely, but I think they'd have to pay a premium being a division rival. They have some interesting pieces to offer for sure, but it's just so rare that you see a star player traded within his current division.

Guys like Simmonds and Schwartz are nice pieces that the Oilers would undoubtedly benefit from, but I think their focus should be on getting one or more defenseman, at least one of which has to be a top 2/3 guy.

I do agree that now is the time to trade Hall if there's a deal to be had, but Chiarelli would be remiss to rush into trading him just to make a deal. He has to make sure that he gets good value back that isn't going to kill the Oilers. This is potentially a monster trade, he has to make sure he doesn't botch it.

Very fair point about Hall, not seeing a ton of him leaving on the East Coast, and his turnover issues...but while it may be a department he lacks in, we desperately need a high-scoring winger to play with Tavares. They've been trotting out a carousel of crap on his wing since we drafted him, now is the time to load up. Tavares turns the puck over plenty too, but the offense I think the two of them could produce would far outweigh the turnovers.

I'm not sure how desperate Chiarelli is, but if I'm making an assumption based off his years in Boston...he may end up taking a little less than he should due to desperation. When faced with a pending UFA in Boychuk, he flipped him for three picks. Not a terrible return, but many thought he could have gotten more. We know what happened with Seguin. Not saying he'll get fleeced, but he doesn't have the best track record when his back is against the wall.

I'm not sure what it would take from the Isles to get it done. Obviously Hamonic, but I'm not sure that just Strome will land Hall. I'd be comfortable throwing something else into that deal, depending on what it was. Barzal is untouchable. Pulock/Pelech won't be moved either, as they'll both likely be full-time NHL'ers next year. Otherwise, I think just about any prospects are fair game.
- eichiefs9

I totally see the need for NYI to get a player like Hall for JT. They will be lethal together (ala Benn/Seguin) but it simply can't happen without Hamonic plus an older roster player who can help next year (and a couple solid prospects), or a young forward like Nelson/Strome. On a side note, is Barzal the guy they got for Reinhart?

As for Chiarelli's track record, in retrospect the Seguin deal looks bad. But in 2013 the Bruins were division champions, didn't have a top 2C spot for a kid with an attitude problem, and brought in a very reliable (if not oft injured) Loui Erikson to fill a hole in the top 6 that Seguin couldn't (he wasnt very good at RW). Plus they got solid prospects in Reilly smith and Joe Morrow. Hamonic is the equivalent of Erikson in a deal with NYI - not saying he's oft injured, but fills the need Edmonton desperately has.

When I watched Johnny Boychuk cross check Michael Bournival in the face with 5 mins to go in the third period of Game 7 in their 2013-2014 playoff series I remember thinking at the time he has played his last game in Boston. It was a dumb penalty that was really unforgivable and (cap issues aside) thought Edmonton should really go after him because he was exactly what they needed. Chiarelli got fleeced but part of me believes he didn't care because Boychuk cost them that series.

I 100% agree that they dont have to make a trade, and shouldn't get fleeced just for the sake of making one. But they do need an overhaul, and RNH/Yak have no value at the moment. Maybe they trade their pick, maybe they take less for RNH/Eberle/Yak then they're ultimately worth, but something has to change in Edmonton and I believe the culture is part of it. Taylor Hall (and to a lesser extent Yakupov) represents all the frustration these fans have gone through the last 6 years. Once they get over the initial shock and start winning hockey games it will help ease the suffering they've long endured.

Hall can't be that bad with the turnovers, or maybe he just covers them up well, or gets off the ice immediately after, or he's just that good offensively that it really doesn't matter. He's a +1 on a team collectively -37.
- Wetbandit1

Not all of his turnovers directly result in goals for the opposition. Yes, he is that good offensively and he's only has one season (2012-13) where he's been a plus player (and only played 45 games due to a knee injury). At one point around Christmas he was +15 this season.

His PP numbers have always been weak compared to his overall numbers. Part of what makes him so good is his speed. But part of the reason the oilers pp has been so bad is they keep giving the puck to carry over the line where the opposition sits back and waits, strips him and ultimately gets an easy clear.

It happens at regular strength too. Sometimes it's a break away for the other team, sometimes he coughs it up in the neutral zone and their defence takes a weak penalty.

It happens a lot. Just watch the next time the oilers are the free game on NHL TV. It's almost comical.

I totally see the need for NYI to get a player like Hall for JT. They will be lethal together (ala Benn/Seguin) but it simply can't happen without Hamonic plus an older roster player who can help next year (and a couple solid prospects), or a young forward like Nelson/Strome. On a side note, is Barzal the guy they got for Reinhart?

As for Chiarelli's track record, in retrospect the Seguin deal looks bad. But in 2013 the Bruins were division champions, didn't have a top 2C spot for a kid with an attitude problem, and brought in a very reliable (if not oft injured) Loui Erikson to fill a hole in the top 6 that Seguin couldn't (he wasnt very good at RW). Plus they got solid prospects in Reilly smith and Joe Morrow. Hamonic is the equivalent of Erikson in a deal with NYI - not saying he's oft injured, but fills the need Edmonton desperately has.

When I watched Johnny Boychuk cross check Michael Bournival in the face with 5 mins to go in the third period of Game 7 in their 2013-2014 playoff series I remember thinking at the time he has played his last game in Boston. It was a dumb penalty that was really unforgivable and (cap issues aside) thought Edmonton should really go after him because he was exactly what they needed. Chiarelli got fleeced but part of me believes he didn't care because Boychuk cost them that series.

I 100% agree that they dont have to make a trade, and shouldn't get fleeced just for the sake of making one. But they do need an overhaul, and RNH/Yak have no value at the moment. Maybe they trade their pick, maybe they take less for RNH/Eberle/Yak then they're ultimately worth, but something has to change in Edmonton and I believe the culture is part of it. Taylor Hall (and to a lesser extent Yakupov) represents all the frustration these fans have gone through the last 6 years. Once they get over the initial shock and start winning hockey games it will help ease the suffering they've long endured.
- Max.Betts

Yeah, they took Barzal 16th overall after the Reinhart trade. He's had a phenomenal season after having an incredible camp/preseason with the Islanders. Snow & Co. were raving about him and said he was damn close to making the team. If Seattle gets eliminated early in the WHL playoffs I think you'll see him make his NHL debut. That's how high on him they are.

All I know is that Snow and Chiarelli have had a somewhat lengthy history of doing business with each other. Snow tends to make multiple trades with a handful of the same GM's across the league. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that Hamonic ends up with the Oilers. Maybe Hall isn't the centerpiece that comes back, but Snow isn't going to get taken to the cleaners on the trade.

Not all of his turnovers directly result in goals for the opposition. Yes, he is that good offensively and he's only has one season (2012-13) where he's been a plus player (and only played 45 games due to a knee injury). At one point around Christmas he was +15 this season.

His PP numbers have always been weak compared to his overall numbers. Part of what makes him so good is his speed. But part of the reason the oilers pp has been so bad is they keep giving the puck to carry over the line where the opposition sits back and waits, strips him and ultimately gets an easy clear.

It happens at regular strength too. Sometimes it's a break away for the other team, sometimes he coughs it up in the neutral zone and their defence takes a weak penalty.

It happens a lot. Just watch the next time the oilers are the free game on NHL TV. It's almost comical.
- Max.Betts

He definitely slowed down once Jesus came back. I have him in my Yahoo fantasy league and he was ranked 3rd I think for a while and now he's down to 29th. I kind of meant that him being plus when the whole team is very minus, and his production particularly at 5on5 could it really hurt his value all that much? He's 6th in 5on5 points wise, so even a modest bump on the PP could really boost his numbers and make him a point per game player. I think he's probably between 3 and 5 as far as LW goes.

So you answer a dumb proposal by a dumber one, brilliant.

P.S: Weircoch is pretty bad at this hockey thing.
- Habsody

How is this a dumb proposal? Hoffman and Hall put up very similar stats. But I feel Hall is the more complete player and is a couple years younger and has a higher ceiling so Ottawa would have to pony up. A top 8th to 11th overall pick is nothing to sneeze at either. Not sure Ottawa is going to resign Weircoch but he could be a good fit in the #6 spot in Edmonton. He is still RFA.

He definitely slowed down once Jesus came back. I have him in my Yahoo fantasy league and he was ranked 3rd I think for a while and now he's down to 29th. I kind of meant that him being plus when the whole team is very minus, and his production particularly at 5on5 could it really hurt his value all that much? He's 6th in 5on5 points wise, so even a modest bump on the PP could really boost his numbers and make him a point per game player. I think he's probably between 3 and 5 as far as LW goes.
- Wetbandit1

Think about it this way. -37 is seven 5-on-5 goals when Hallsy not on the ice.

Because I don't live in Edmonton I don't have a clue about the Oilers situation? i agree he has more value than any Canucks. But let's make not beat around the bush, Hall is a franchise forward on a team that didn't have a better player until McDavid came around. Sure he's a 1st line LW on many teams in the NHL, but that doesn't make him a franchise forward. Nobody is building a team around Taylor Hall, the only one that has is still in last place 6 years later.
- Max.Betts

Yeah because Taylor Hall is the reason why this team is sucking, talk about a strawman...

He absolutely is a franchise player, his stats match up with players like Tavares. I don't see how you can even dispute that he is not. He has the pedigree and the stats to back it up. Plus he is young and signed at a reasonable contract for several more years. All of this equates to a player with value much higher than Hamonic. His stats in the new year have slumped a little but he still has 25 goals and 60 points.

Don't sit there as a Canucks fan and try to pretend that you have any clue about the Oilers' situation.

How is this a dumb proposal? Hoffman and Hall put up very similar stats. But I feel Hall is the more complete player and is a couple years younger and has a higher ceiling so Ottawa would have to pony up. A top 8th to 11th overall pick is nothing to sneeze at either. Not sure Ottawa is going to resign Weircoch but he could be a good fit in the #6 spot in Edmonton. He is still RFA.
- Erik6Karlsson5

if Ottawa was to trade for Hall, We would want to Keep Hoffman. Getting Hall while losing Hoffman still leaves a hole on the LW.

Ottawa would have to give up at least a D (most likely PW), a roster player like Lazar or Zibby and a first round pick... could be worth it, however doesn't address our need for a #1C

Hall is overrated. The oilers have had all these first overall picks and have drafted the wrong player every time with the exception of Mcdavid who any idiot would have taken first (ie, the oilers). Yakupov is one of the biggest busts in NHL history, Nuge is a decent 2nd line centre, and the Oilers will be kicking themselves for years for taking Taylor over Tyler. Now they think they can just dump one of their busts for some stud d-man to fix everything. The franchise should be relegated to the ECHL.
- hankthetank

i dont agree or like all of this (cheer for oilers); but this was hilarious

Yeah it was discussed:

Simmonds
Sanheim
Streit / Del Zotto

for

Hall

Edmonton fans would want more, Philly fans wouldn't want to give up that much.
- Glak18

Value-wise, that's a deal I happily accept. The only thing that would stop me is that the team REALLY needs a legit top-2 RHD Dman now and moving Hall for anything but that or without having a deal for one lined up would be folly.

That having been said, Simmonds and Sanheim would be the real future value while Streit would combine with the other big D acquisition(s) of the summer to help shelter Nurse and the other young D. Overall, it's a well crafted deal.

Yeah because Taylor Hall is the reason why this team is sucking, talk about a strawman...

He absolutely is a franchise player, his stats match up with players like Tavares. I don't see how you can even dispute that he is not. He has the pedigree and the stats to back it up. Plus he is young and signed at a reasonable contract for several more years. All of this equates to a player with value much higher than Hamonic. His stats in the new year have slumped a little but he still has 25 goals and 60 points.

Don't sit there as a Canucks fan and try to pretend that you have any clue about the Oilers' situation.
- 6ringslowe

Hall mid 24yrs n 60pts
D Sedin 35yrs n 59pts

Whats to know? 2 LW n some say Hall is a franchise player 😂😂👎

6 seasons in the NHL for Taylor Hall without sniffing a playoff game. Somebody get him out of there so he can start his career.