SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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juolevi looks good too and is expected to pass chychrun. He seems to know how to QB by the looks of it on video AND is a +30. wow.
the london knights seem to know how to develop these kids. I saw them a lot as a kid too since it was my home town back then |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I like the idea. tanev hanson and MCANN is way too expensive though. 2 of them is ok though. If its mcann then maybe just a 2nd rd pick w him of hanson since hes older. Thats a lot of speed and scoring to hand over, but itd be worth it long term - SMBDragon
Yeah.
Would sure be fun to imagine twin finns though...good story, but very very unlikely.
I wasn't paying attention to hockey when teh Sedins were drafted. I wonder if their was any hypothesizing about drafting them back then, by Vancouver or other teams?? |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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I know....burke did so if he can its possible.
The situation of a #2 (laine) and a top 10 (for sergachev) is much more plausible than #2&3
those players are a slam dunk fit here too. You know laine....we are both salivating over getting him in canucks uniform - SMBDragon
Totally different situation.
Everyone knew the Sedins wanted to play together and were unsure wether or not they'd even come over if they weren't drafted to the same team. It devalued the pick of the Sedins at the time.
It's quite a bit more complex this season where either of those wingers could be top line players without thoughts to their twin. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Totally different situation.
Everyone knew the Sedins wanted to play together and were unsure wether or not they'd even come over if they weren't drafted to the same team. It devalued the pick of the Sedins at the time.
It's quite a bit more complex this season where either of those wingers could be top line players without thoughts to their twin. - golfingsince
they arent brothers of course either.
either way, Id like to see another top 10 pick for us by the draft IF it mean getting say juolevi or sergachev. Chychrun is good too. Bean not bad but needs some developement. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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they arent brothers of course either.
either way, Id like to see another top 10 pick for us by the draft IF it mean getting say juolevi or sergachev. Chychrun is good too. Bean not bad but needs some developement. - SMBDragon
The thing that concerns me about Juolevi is his playing weight. Chychrun already has 50 lbs on him, and can still skate like a mother(frank)er.
I'd love another pick in the top 10, but that will cost. Getting 2 and 3 even if you have 1 will cost quite a bit. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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The thing that concerns me about Juolevi is his playing weight. Chychrun already has 50 lbs on him, and can still skate like a mother(frank)er.
I'd love another pick in the top 10, but that will cost. Getting 2 and 3 even if you have 1 will cost quite a bit. - golfingsince
Agreed, Chychrun is a much safer pick...I'd love to get another first and draft both though. Our D would be set for the next 8 years |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Brown really intrigues me . He reminds me of Bjugstadt . He has speed size and decent hands - VANTEL
Do you watch chl games on tv? |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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The thing that concerns me about Juolevi is his playing weight. Chychrun already has 50 lbs on him, and can still skate like a mother(frank)er.
I'd love another pick in the top 10, but that will cost. Getting 2 and 3 even if you have 1 will cost quite a bit. - golfingsince
ya chychrun looks pretty thick.
ya it would cost. And thats always what has to be weighed out. Is it too much cost or just right and worth it long term. Hard to know anything till we learn draft position |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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ya chychrun looks pretty thick.
ya it would cost. And thats always what has to be weighed out. Is it too much cost or just right and worth it long term. Hard to know anything till we learn draft position - SMBDragon
That is the question.
Depends if you see this team bouncing back and contending next year, or in the beginning of a longer rebuild?
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Agreed, Chychrun is a much safer pick...I'd love to get another first and draft both though. Our D would be set for the next 8 years - CanuckDon
I'd trade down. I have a funny feeling we'll get another chance or two at a #1C. |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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juolevi looks good too and is expected to pass chychrun. He seems to know how to QB by the looks of it on video AND is a +30. wow.
the london knights seem to know how to develop these kids. I saw them a lot as a kid too since it was my home town back then - SMBDragon
The down side of that scenario is: look how stacked that knights team is. Are we seeing his true colours? He's a little on the light side, so would take at least a year to be NHL ready. Chychrun plays on a bad team and still has big numbers, including one of the best corsi's in WHL this year. Sergachev is the only player I see as ready as Chychrun, also the only other player who might make a NHL lineup next season.
I'd be pretty happy with any of those three guys and I truly trust JB's judgement to figure out which of them is best. I lIke Chychrun's skating and shooting ability, seems to be the best all-around guy. |
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Do you watch chl games on tv? - manvanfan
No |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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they arent brothers of course either.
either way, Id like to see another top 10 pick for us by the draft IF it mean getting say juolevi or sergachev. Chychrun is good too. Bean not bad but needs some developement. - SMBDragon
I've seen the hitmen play Brandon twice this season. Bean has been very impressive. Sanheim was kicked out of a game and they were losing by 2 goals. QB on the PP, was solid both ends of the rink. Came back for the victory. Probably a 12-18 pick.
Charles Mcavoy could be a mid round steal. A guy I know who does scouting reports said reminds him of Jacob trouba at his draft year. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Agreed, Chychrun is a much safer pick...I'd love to get another first and draft both though. Our D would be set for the next 8 years - CanuckDon
I cant remember who posted it before but I agree with them that the most important factor to be paying attention to is who is going up or going down in draft rank. shink was a great example or a guy falling a lot and now hes not even on team anymore.
juolevi is predicted t pass chychrun. and sergachev is moving up too. Due to weight I'd pick sergachev. Any of those 3 would be great however long term.
ultimately JB will know better than us |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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No - VANTEL
Haha they are pretty boring, I watch if the game has talented players that are draft eligible. Seen enough wheat kings game in person, good mid round talent in the WHL this season. Not a lot of high end.
Did see Moose Jaw vs wheat kings near the end. Brayden point is good. Dryden hunt will be AHL imo. Brett howden will probably do better then his brother. Was most impressed with Noah Gregor. Played LW and has tons of skill. Overshadowed by the rest. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Now Daisy, we must work out a signal system of communication.
When I elbow you real hard in the face ? That means shut up! |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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I cant remember who posted it before but I agree with them that the most important factor to be paying attention to is who is going up or going down in draft rank. shink was a great example or a guy falling a lot and now hes not even on team anymore.
juolevi is predicted t pass chychrun. and sergachev is moving up too. Due to weight I'd pick sergachev. Any of those 3 would be great however long term.
ultimately JB will know better than us - SMBDragon
I'm pretty sure Shink wasn't a pre-season top-2 pick though, I do agree with guys rising/falling, these kids are playing for that pick-position. Obviously year after year, a guy like Weber (Shea, not our terrible one) slips into the 2nd round and does the opposite of what you are talking about. I think it goes both ways, in the end it is a bit of a crapp shoot |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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I cant remember who posted it before but I agree with them that the most important factor to be paying attention to is who is going up or going down in draft rank. shink was a great example or a guy falling a lot and now hes not even on team anymore.
juolevi is predicted t pass chychrun. and sergachev is moving up too. Due to weight I'd pick sergachev. Any of those 3 would be great however long term.
ultimately JB will know better than us - SMBDragon
Meh, Jones fell and Drouin rose. |
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neem55
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Do you watch chl games on tv? - manvanfan
Nah. Went to a Royals with cheese game the other night though, the playoff games are pretty intense! |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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The down side of that scenario is: look how stacked that knights team is. Are we seeing his true colours? He's a little on the light side, so would take at least a year to be NHL ready. Chychrun plays on a bad team and still has big numbers, including one of the best corsi's in WHL this year. Sergachev is the only player I see as ready as Chychrun, also the only other player who might make a NHL lineup next season.
I'd be pretty happy with any of those three guys and I truly trust JB's judgement to figure out which of them is best. I lIke Chychrun's skating and shooting ability, seems to be the best all-around guy. - neem55
good point.
Ya I like sergachev the best. Good speed too. His point shot is UNREAL. That could be his career right there. Its just going to get even better with his strength increases. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I cant remember who posted it before but I agree with them that the most important factor to be paying attention to is who is going up or going down in draft rank. shink was a great example or a guy falling a lot and now hes not even on team anymore.
juolevi is predicted t pass chychrun. and sergachev is moving up too. Due to weight I'd pick sergachev. Any of those 3 would be great however long term.
ultimately JB will know better than us - SMBDragon
It what list has Juolevi past Chychrun? |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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It what list has Juolevi past Chychrun? - CanuckDon
A bad one IMO. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Finn but he's 50 lbs lighter and doesn't offer much more upside elsewhere. |
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Simmonds with his 29th goal today, B. Schenn has 25, all that for Mike Richards. I know they won two Cup but Richards was their fourth line center the last one. - LeftCoaster
Kings offset losing Schenn by trading for Carter, giving up a very poor defenseman in Jack Johnson to Columbus. So Kings got 2 cups and still ended up with one of the premier forwards in the league. It worked out okay for them
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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I'm pretty sure Shink wasn't a pre-season top-2 pick though, I do agree with guys rising/falling, these kids are playing for that pick-position. Obviously year after year, a guy like Weber (Shea, not our terrible one) slips into the 2nd round and does the opposite of what you are talking about. I think it goes both ways, in the end it is a bit of a crapp shoot - neem55
ya lots of successful D are 2nd rd picks.
thats why good draft GMs scouts etc pick a datsyk is 5th rd while idiots pick so many busts in 1st round.
our JB is excellent. we finally have a good draft GM. Last one was quinn.
burke nonis gillis were stupid beyond all belief w drafting. |
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neem55
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good point.
Ya I like sergachev the best. Good speed too. His point shot is UNREAL. That could be his career right there. Its just going to get even better with his strength increases. - SMBDragon
Ya, he's also played very well in the second half. Drafts are weird: before the draft you never hear anything much about a Carlson, Gudbranson, OEL or Brodin in the media, but they get picked high and end up great players. Seems to me the scouts really know what's up these days, yet picking the best out of those guys at the top is still a skill. The year Hedman was picked for example, all we knew was that he was giant and every scout had him in their top-5. Chychrun is pretty close to that type of consensus all year, although in the last little bit Sergachev and Juolevi creep ahead (according to some draft boards). Yet every year euro's and russians seem to go a bit later and end up better than the CHL guys picked ahead of them (Ristolenen, Karlsson, Brodin for example). Good news is our first and second rounder this year should both be pretty great picks, it's up to the development team after that. |
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