That's funny, I think Toes is one of the most overrated players in the league. What does that say about him if two people think the complete opposite?
- Scooby_Doo

corrected

All joking aside. Sportsnet did a little stat on the progression of Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler after 2 years in the NHL and BO has posted similar numbers to Henrik and better numbers than Kesler. I know this means next to nothing when forecasting the future, but it really puts a halt to the people bringing up his +/- (dumbest) stat.
- Codes1087

great! you took my troll comment and legitimized it.

great! you took my troll comment and legitimized it.
- Linden_4_Capt

Sawryyyy

That's funny, I think Tavares is one of the most overrated players in the league. What does that say about him if two people think the complete opposite?
- Scooby_Doo

I think theres a difference between saying under rated and under appreciated. That being said, I dont see how Tavares is over rated? He's finished 3rd in Hart voting twice, was a point behind the Art Ross last year and is still only 24. Playing for the Islanders has put him in the shadows of the rest of the big name guys in his division from the Penguins, Caps and Rangers which is why I say under appreciated

lol...I'd be but hurt too if my team was entering year 13 of a rebuild like the Flames and showing positively no signs of escaping the bottom 10 anytime soon.
- LordHumungous

Just shows how right I am your the only one here who says 13 year rebuild..? No on know what your talking about the flames had a 09/10-14/15 6 year playoff gap. And in that gap were still very competitive coming in 9th in the west 2 times. Iginla was traded in 12/13 hence the start of the rebuild. Coming off that our young talent got us into the playoffs when Vancouver has also made it once since then with rotting old talent. And if not for having the worst goaltending in the league many pegged the flames back in the playoffs this year including vancouvers tsn 1040 radio. But it makes sense that they won't be out of the bottom 10 anytime soon when your trying to make a point as stupid as a 13 year rebuild which would go back to losing to Tampa in game 7 make sure it actually makes sense

I know your trying to make yourself feel better but at least be realistic

Just shows how right I am your the only one here who says 13 year rebuild..? No on know what your talking about the flames had a 09/10-14/15 6 year playoff gap. And in that gap were still very competitive coming in 9th in the west 2 times. Iginla was traded in 12/13 hence the start of the rebuild. Coming off that our young talent got us into the playoffs when Vancouver has also made it once since then with rotting old talent. And if not for having the worst goaltending in the league many pegged the flames back in the playoffs this year including vancouvers tsn 1040 radio. But it makes sense that they won't be out of the bottom 10 anytime soon when your trying to make a point as stupid as a 13 year rebuild which would go back to losing to Tampa in game 7 make sure it actually makes sense

I know your trying to make yourself feel better but at least be realistic
- Bigalow

Maybe you should check this link out giggles: https://askthepsych.com/a...7/inappropriate-laughing/

This is just great https://twitter.com/tryam...status/717087442818478080
- pker2theend

Just shows how right I am your the only one here who says 13 year rebuild..? No on know what your talking about the flames had a 09/10-14/15 6 year playoff gap. And in that gap were still very competitive coming in 9th in the west 2 times. Iginla was traded in 12/13 hence the start of the rebuild. Coming off that our young talent got us into the playoffs when Vancouver has also made it once since then with rotting old talent. And if not for having the worst goaltending in the league many pegged the flames back in the playoffs this year including vancouvers tsn 1040 radio. But it makes sense that they won't be out of the bottom 10 anytime soon when your trying to make a point as stupid as a 13 year rebuild which would go back to losing to Tampa in game 7 make sure it actually makes sense

I know your trying to make yourself feel better but at least be realistic
- Bigalow

Maybe you should check this link out giggles: https://askthepsych.com/a...7/inappropriate-laughing/


- WhiteLie

I just can't help myself

- A_SteamingLombardi

That's what I thought thanks for coming👍

I love it when Nylander goes out purse shopping.
- golfingsince

He gives Kadri eye brow grooming tips.

I agree, I think Tavares is one of the most underrated players in the NHL, which is a big reason why i hope canucks dont sign okopso because most of his success is because of Tavares
- phyllee

I do tend to stay in the shadows, but occasionally I will pop my head up when I read something that just isn't true.

While I am not a fan of Okposo for the Canucks, Okposo is an excellent forward in many regards. Much of the bias against Okposo is that he doesn't use his physical body the way we wish he all would.

His success this year, in putting up .8 points per game, has come largely without Tavares as a linemate. They have hooked up here and there on the power play, but in 80% of the Isles games this year Okposo has not lined up with Tavares unless they are pressing for a goal late.

In fantasy (I am sure most of you do not care about fantasy) I find Okposo frustrating for two reasons...first off, his team should have him out there with Tavares every single shift, secondly there is no way he should consider going anywhere else. This is one of those cases where he will not be as good, no matter where he goes.

In my estimation a 5 year deal at $5.5 should make both he and the Isles happy. Just get it done boys....and then get Ok out there on the first line.

Lastly, on a separate note, I would never take Tavares over Toews. They aren't even in the same league when it comes to leadership abilities, their 200 foot game and this year there isn't even a big difference in their offensive game. Toews continually pisses me off, but no question he is the better player (IMO).

Does Gary Lawless actually do any research before spewing his nonsense?

http://www.tsn.ca/canadia...o-respectability-1.465033

Does Gary Lawless actually do any research before spewing his nonsense?

http://www.tsn.ca/canadia...o-respectability-1.465033
- docmorgan

Don't read his crap and certainly don't re-post it here.

This is just great https://twitter.com/tryam...status/717087442818478080
- pker2theend

That was a perfectly good solid hit on Pirri and not even super hard - I can't believe this league is in a place where 3 guys feel like they need to take a run at Tryamkin after a hit like that

That was a perfectly good solid hit on Pirri and not even super hard - I can't believe this league is in a place where 3 guys feel like they need to take a run at Tryamkin after a hit like that
- docmorgan

Most winning teams do have an one for all mentality

That was a perfectly good solid hit on Pirri and not even super hard - I can't believe this league is in a place where 3 guys feel like they need to take a run at Tryamkin after a hit like that
- docmorgan

Let's see if they take a run at him this time next year. They're only running at him because he's 21 years old and has played less than 10 games.

While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?

On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.

On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.

On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.

On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?

On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?


Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)

Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA.

Does Gary Lawless actually do any research before spewing his nonsense?

http://www.tsn.ca/canadia...o-respectability-1.465033
- docmorgan

With the exception of the Canucks he isn't too far off. He lost me at Miller is done and the jury is out on Markstrom

Don't read his crap and certainly don't re-post it here.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That was a perfectly good solid hit on Pirri and not even super hard - I can't believe this league is in a place where 3 guys feel like they need to take a run at Tryamkin after a hit like that
- docmorgan

Hopefully Pedan can train Tryamkin to fight in the summer and he will KO a guy early on. Soon as he pummels a guy players will keep their distance

While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?

On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.

On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.

On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.

On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?

On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?


Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)

Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA.
- YeOldTimer

That's a lot of hands.

No thanks too Lucic.

With the exception of the Canucks he isn't too far off. He lost me at Miller is done and the jury is out on Markstrom
- CanuckDon

Exactly

Hopefully Pedan can train Tryamkin to fight in the summer and he will KO a guy early on. Soon as he pummels a guy players will keep their distance
- CanuckDon

I'm more concerned what Edler will teach him.

While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?

On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.

On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.

On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.

On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?

On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?


Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)

Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA.
- YeOldTimer

Backes is going to be 32 next year, He may still be a effective player at 35 but he seems a little redunadant with Sutter and Bo in the lineup. Younger, not older