YeOldTimer
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I do tend to stay in the shadows, but occasionally I will pop my head up when I read something that just isn't true.
While I am not a fan of Okposo for the Canucks, Okposo is an excellent forward in many regards. Much of the bias against Okposo is that he doesn't use his physical body the way we wish he all would.
His success this year, in putting up .8 points per game, has come largely without Tavares as a linemate. They have hooked up here and there on the power play, but in 80% of the Isles games this year Okposo has not lined up with Tavares unless they are pressing for a goal late.
In fantasy (I am sure most of you do not care about fantasy) I find Okposo frustrating for two reasons...first off, his team should have him out there with Tavares every single shift, secondly there is no way he should consider going anywhere else. This is one of those cases where he will not be as good, no matter where he goes.
In my estimation a 5 year deal at $5.5 should make both he and the Isles happy. Just get it done boys....and then get Ok out there on the first line.
Lastly, on a separate note, I would never take Tavares over Toews. They aren't even in the same league when it comes to leadership abilities, their 200 foot game and this year there isn't even a big difference in their offensive game. Toews continually pisses me off, but no question he is the better player (IMO). - Dollars2Donuts
You should post more often.
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?
On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.
On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.
On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.
On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?
On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?
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Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)
Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA. - YeOldTimer
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neem55
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I do tend to stay in the shadows, but occasionally I will pop my head up when I read something that just isn't true.
While I am not a fan of Okposo for the Canucks, Okposo is an excellent forward in many regards. Much of the bias against Okposo is that he doesn't use his physical body the way we wish he all would.
His success this year, in putting up .8 points per game, has come largely without Tavares as a linemate. They have hooked up here and there on the power play, but in 80% of the Isles games this year Okposo has not lined up with Tavares unless they are pressing for a goal late.
In fantasy (I am sure most of you do not care about fantasy) I find Okposo frustrating for two reasons...first off, his team should have him out there with Tavares every single shift, secondly there is no way he should consider going anywhere else. This is one of those cases where he will not be as good, no matter where he goes.
In my estimation a 5 year deal at $5.5 should make both he and the Isles happy. Just get it done boys....and then get Ok out there on the first line.
Lastly, on a separate note, I would never take Tavares over Toews. They aren't even in the same league when it comes to leadership abilities, their 200 foot game and this year there isn't even a big difference in their offensive game. Toews continually pisses me off, but no question he is the better player (IMO). - Dollars2Donuts
I agree with everything else you've said, but why on earth would he not do better on another team if he's not playing with Tavares? If he plays with the Sedins he's not going to post more points? How about with mackinnon and duchene? Benn/Seguin? If anything, it seems to me if he signs with a team where he plays on the 1st line, he could match or exceed his previous highs.
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CanuckDon
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I'm more concerned what Edler will teach him. - A_SteamingLombardi
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Does Gary Lawless actually do any research before spewing his nonsense?
http://www.tsn.ca/canadia...o-respectability-1.465033 - docmorgan
I guess he overlooked JBs 1st draft here.....JV, JM, tryamkin, demko. what a haul!
last year was Boeser, brisebois, zhukenov, neil, olson, jasek, gaudette.
5 of those we know have been great looking prospects. We shall see how that works out.
We have rodin, larson coming next season and tryamkin has been tremendous. Yet he talks like theres bare cupboards. Lawless didnt do sh!t of any homework. Looks like he just said what his buddy down the block told him. |
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neem55
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Flagged for ignoring your 6th hand - CanuckDon
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?
On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.
On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.
On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.
On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?
On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?
Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)
Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA. - YeOldTimer
If we signed forwards, the 3 i'd targe(who we target would be depending on draft position) would be Stamkos, Ladd, Okposo. If Higgins and/or Burrows decided to retire this year, or we traded, we could go after Ladd, Okposo, and a Defenseman. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Hopefully Pedan can train Tryamkin to fight in the summer and he will KO a guy early on. Soon as he pummels a guy players will keep their distance - CanuckDon
youre right.....or maybe a few guys before being noticed. If its a tough customer esp. He should do that sooner than later.
Tryamkin can fight though....Ive seen video of it. I posted one previously.
He has an advantage of reach, he holds the guy at arms length and he cant get hit, then pummels the dude with the other hand. So unless its scott or chara I dont see him losing. |
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YeOldTimer
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Location: BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Does Gary Lawless actually do any research before spewing his nonsense?
http://www.tsn.ca/canadia...o-respectability-1.465033 - docmorgan
About as much insight as the guys in Toronto last night projecting next year's roster for the Canucks. "The Canucks might draft a roster player and they will likely sign another one to play in their top 6. Here's three of the better names that are currently expected to be available." "Great job John."
You gotta think that these guys are being paid pretty close to minimum wage based on the quality of research and effort they put into their 'content'. |
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neem55
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I guess he overlooked JBs 1st draft here.....JV, JM, tryamkin, demko. what a haul!
last year was Boeser, brisebois, zhukenov, neil, olson, jasek, gaudette.
5 of those we know have been great looking prospects. We shall see how that works out.
We have rodin, larson coming next season and tryamkin has been tremendous. Yet he talks like theres bare cupboards. Lawless didnt do sh!t of any homework. Looks like he just said what his buddy down the block told him. - SMBDragon
I actually didn't think it was that far off, except his comment on Markstrom who has been "real good player for us" to use JB speak. He didn't mention the prospects on any of the teams, just the roster players this year. I agree with you we've got guys on the come-up. Hutton-Tram is still a very raw and new duo, I think it's fair to not say whether or not they are for real with such a small sample. Bae has been good and we all think will really be good next year, but 28 pts. in 69 games doesn't actually scream good right now. Similar with Hutton, he's got points, but his defensive metrics are not good at all. Basically he said "Sedins, Bo and Sutter, tanev/Edler are guys that are good right now" is that incorrect? |
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phyllee
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If we signed forwards, the 3 i'd targe(who we target would be depending on draft position) would be Stamkos, Ladd, Okposo. If Higgins and/or Burrows decided to retire this year, or we traded, we could go after Ladd, Okposo, and a Defenseman. - Retinalz
My top 3 free agent picks id want to sign, Stamkos, Lucic, Boedker |
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youre right.....or maybe a few guys before being noticed. If its a tough customer esp. He should do that sooner than later.
Tryamkin can fight though....Ive seen video of it. I posted one previously.
He has an advantage of reach, he holds the guy at arms length and he cant get hit, then pummels the dude with the other hand. So unless its scott or chara I dont see him losing. - SMBDragon
Rypien fought Hal Gill.
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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I actually didn't think it was that far off, except his comment on Markstrom who has been "real good player for us" to use JB speak. He didn't mention the prospects on any of the teams, just the roster players this year. I agree with you we've got guys on the come-up. Hutton-Tram is still a very raw and new duo, I think it's fair to not say whether or not they are for real with such a small sample. Bae has been good and we all think will really be good next year, but 28 pts. in 69 games doesn't actually scream good right now. Similar with Hutton, he's got points, but his defensive metrics are not good at all. Basically he said "Sedins, Bo and Sutter, tanev/Edler are guys that are good right now" is that incorrect? - neem55
this was svens 1st season here....he took awhile to get himself going and learning what is expected defensively. So when you consider the 28 pts were in the 2nd half, not bad.
Tree is damn good and far beyond what youd expect a D to be at 21 yrs old. It helps hammer has been mentoring him. Expect a very good player here. |
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YeOldTimer
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neem55
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My top 3 free agent picks id want to sign, Stamkos, Lucic, Boedker - phyllee
Stamkos
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I like Boedker, McGinn or Okposo too though. |
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Damien Cox , Steve Simmons, Glenn Healy
Taj , Tanbir, Brown to Bure
What are 3 loudmouth a$$holes from Vancouver and Toronto?
I continue in the same category Alex and take A$$holes for $600 |
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YeOldTimer
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Flagged for ignoring your 6th hand - CanuckDon
Always keep one hand free. You know, for snacks and stuff. |
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SMBDragon
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Rypien fought Hal Gill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XxMmYvarCg - A_SteamingLombardi
ya I remember that one.
There also was that kid that knocked out brad winchester with a single punch....cant remember his name.
Speaking of rypien....I wonder how much his death had an effect on the play of team mates like bieksa etc. They did seem to have sudden declines. Couldnt blame them.
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neem55
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this was svens 1st season here....he took awhile to get himself going and learning what is expected defensively. So when you consider the 28 pts were in the 2nd half, not bad.
Tree is damn good and far beyond what youd expect a D to be at 21 yrs old. It helps hammer has been mentoring him. Expect a very good player here. - SMBDragon
I totally agree with that, but if your assessing the current roster there's more maybe's than actually looking like bonafides IMO. I really like both Bae and Tree, but are they going to be difference makers next year? I'm honestly not sure, and not surprised some journalist who doesn't follow the Canucks isn't either. Wheras
I think with Bo, Sedins, Sutter, edler/Tanev I'm pretty sure that they will be good next year.
When I looked at the article again, I realized how much he talked about prospects with Toronto and agree with you a bit more: we have more going than he`s suggesting. But I kinda agree with him: they need to get off the fence and rebuild IMO and they look like a team in limbo. |
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Damien Cox , Steve Simmons, Glenn Healy
Taj , Tanbir, Brown to Bure
What are 3 loudmouth a$$holes from Vancouver and Toronto?
I continue in the same category Alex and take A$$holes for $600 - VANTEL
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YeOldTimer
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youre right.....or maybe a few guys before being noticed. If its a tough customer esp. He should do that sooner than later.
Tryamkin can fight though....Ive seen video of it. I posted one previously.
He has an advantage of reach, he holds the guy at arms length and he cant get hit, then pummels the dude with the other hand. So unless its scott or chara I dont see him losing. - SMBDragon
That video you're referring to is a KHL fight and I wouldn't say he completely dominated the other guy. He seems to be aware that guys over here are bigger and more experienced at fighting than he's used to. A bit wary which is a good thing. But yeah, some combat training would come in handy. What's Prust doing these days? |
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Always keep one hand free. You know, for snacks and stuff. - YeOldTimer
That's why Vantel went back to one woman. |
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ya I remember that one.
There also was that kid that knocked out brad winchester with a single punch....cant remember his name.
Speaking of rypien....I wonder how much his death had an effect on the play of team mates like bieksa etc. They did seem to have sudden declines. Couldnt blame them.
A friends death affected my work ability for several months too. - SMBDragon
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neem55
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That video you're referring to is a KHL fight and I wouldn't say he completely dominated the other guy. He seems to be aware that guys over here are bigger and more experienced at fighting than he's used to. A bit wary which is a good thing. But yeah, some combat training would come in handy. What's Prust doing these days? - YeOldTimer
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Makita
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While watching Lucic lose it over Hamhuis trying to poke in a loose puck last night, I wondered how I'd feel if Benning ends up signing him?
On the one hand he's clearly a neanderthal and almost certain to do things that would be an embarrassment to the organization and its fan base.
On the other hand, the Canucks are kinda missing that physical element, especially in their top 6. Watching the impact Tryamkin's size has made to the Canucks D leaves me wanting more of that imposing presence throughout the lineup.
On the third hand, Canucks don't have the team toughness to dive head first into the whirlpools of stupidity he would inevitably create.
On the fourth hand, Lucic has only played for two teams, both of which are 'sweetheart markets'. Would he get nearly the same latitude for his antics if he played for the Canucks, or would he quickly achieve Raffi status with the league?
On the fifth hand, if Benning is committed to keeping Miller through next year, how does his signing of Lucic go over and what sort of fun does that lead to in the dressing room? Maybe a distraction that's beyond Henrik's leadership abilities?
Would they just be better off trying hard to sign someone else instead that brings some of the same qualities, like perhaps McGinn or Backes? Benning has a connection to Lucic but does he have a reasonable shot at signing Backes? (Now that Kesler's no longer here perhaps he'd be less concerned about his wife being defiled?)
Hmmmmm. Quite a dilemma and I'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot about it until Lucic signs an extension in LA. - YeOldTimer
What are you an octopus with all those hands....Lucic would be an anchor to this team, my opinion. Please stay away Mr. Benning |
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