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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
Being the position they are in, to miss the playoffs would be a collapse. You have to take expectations from the beginning of the season out of the equation now, because it doesn't matter. I think the NHL playoff calculator has them at 80% to make it.
- PLindbergh31


It would suck, but I wouldn't consider it a collapse because they have been trying to claw their way up into the playoffs. It's not like they've been in a playoff position all year and are in danger of being knocked of a position.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
probably the truth...we will make sure to rationalize it either way though
- YuenglingJagr


Then we can talk all summer about whether it was worth it for them to just miss, or would it have been better to tank for a higher pick.

(obviously being competitive is better)
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
They arent just playing for themselves, they are playing for Hockeybuzz damnit.

Hope someone has told them.
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
It would suck, but I wouldn't consider it a collapse because they have been trying to claw their way up into the playoffs. It's not like they've been in a playoff position all year and are in danger of being knocked of a position.
- Scoob


It would be a collapse given their play and record going back to the new year.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
No way! Homer is a dumb-dumb head and set this organization back 20 years. Hextall for president. He's done so much!!!!
- steelydan



Well the one and only trade he has gotten flak for still has tremendous potential to turn up roses. Hartnell scratched again recently and 3 more years left. 114 PIM this season isn't something that's missed.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Being the position they are in, to miss the playoffs would be a collapse. You have to take expectations from the beginning of the season out of the equation now, because it doesn't matter. I think the NHL playoff calculator has them at 80% to make it.
- PLindbergh31


http://dropyourgloves.com...?League=1&Date=2016-02-24
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
So if you had to choose between being eliminated by the Leafs or Wings, which would it be?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
Being the position they are in, to miss the playoffs would be a collapse. You have to take expectations from the beginning of the season out of the equation now, because it doesn't matter. I think the NHL playoff calculator has them at 80% to make it.
- PLindbergh31


http://www.sportsclubstat...anceWillMakePlayoffs.html
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
It would suck, but I wouldn't consider it a collapse because they have been trying to claw their way up into the playoffs. It's not like they've been in a playoff position all year and are in danger of being knocked of a position.
- Scoob


I understand that, but purely from a mathematically probability, it would be. I'm looking at it strictly from their current position in the standings. 3 teams for 2 spots, Wings/Bruins play each other, and the Flyers have a game at home vs. the worst team in the NHL, as well as against an Islanders team who is crippled on the blueline, and down to Greiss/Berube.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
So if you had to choose between being eliminated by the Leafs or Wings, which would it be?
- twiztedmike


no
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
no
- YuenglingJagr

yep
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
I understand that, but purely from a mathematically probability, it would be. I'm looking at it strictly from their current position in the standings. 3 teams for 2 spots, Wings/Bruins play each other, and the Flyers have a game at home vs. the worst team in the NHL, as well as against an Islanders team who is crippled on the blueline, and down to Greiss/Berube.
- PLindbergh31


it would just be unfortunate how it ended up...either way there is still a very good chance they make it in
orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
I understand that, but purely from a mathematically probability, it would be. I'm looking at it strictly from their current position in the standings. 3 teams for 2 spots, Wings/Bruins play each other, and the Flyers have a game at home vs. the worst team in the NHL, as well as against an Islanders team who is crippled on the blueline, and down to Greiss/Berube.
- PLindbergh31


would most certainly be a collapse.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
it would just be unfortunate how it ended up...either way there is still a very good chance they make it in
- YuenglingJagr


I think they make it for sure. Then from there it's all gravy. Making the playoffs this year puts them ahead of schedule.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
So if you had to choose between being eliminated by the Leafs or Wings, which would it be?
- twiztedmike


The Bears.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
would most certainly be a collapse.
- orangekrush2010


Common sense would acknowledge that to be the case. If they don't make it you will see people trying to rationalize it, instead of just taking it for what it is. That said, I think they make it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
So, looking at each team's schedule, I think it's pretty likely the Islanders and, possibly, the Penguins rest some of their players. It would benefit the Islanders to stay 4th in the Metro and be the 1st wild card than finish 3rd in the metro. They'd want the Flyers to secure the 2nd wild card, which would push them into the Atlantic for their first and second round matchups.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
So, looking at each team's schedule, I think it's pretty likely the Islanders and, possibly, the Penguins rest some of their players. It would benefit the Islanders to stay 4th in the Metro and be the 1st wild card than finish 3rd in the metro. They'd want the Flyers to secure the 2nd wild card, which would push them into the Atlantic for their first and second round matchups.
- PhillySportsGuy


Just win tonight, that's all that matters right now
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
So, looking at each team's schedule, I think it's pretty likely the Islanders and, possibly, the Penguins rest some of their players. It would benefit the Islanders to stay 4th in the Metro and be the 1st wild card than finish 3rd in the metro. They'd want the Flyers to secure the 2nd wild card, which would push them into the Atlantic for their first and second round matchups.
- PhillySportsGuy

Doesn't really matter who finishes in the second wild card spot. The 1st wild card is playing in the Atlantic. The 2nd plays the team with the best record. That's Washington in the Metro.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
Doesn't really matter who finishes in the second wild card spot. The 1st wild card is playing in the Atlantic. The 2nd plays the team with the best record. That's Washington in the Metro.
- mayorofangrytown


I want the Caps. Win or lose, will be a good series
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
Doesn't really matter who finishes in the second wild card spot. The 1st wild card is playing in the Atlantic. The 2nd plays the team with the best record. That's Washington in the Metro.
- mayorofangrytown


I thought it was only if both teams from the same division make it as the wild cards
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 6 @ 3:48 PM ET
I want the Caps. Win or lose, will be a good series
- arichardson22

If they get into the playoffs it will almost certainly be the Caps.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 6 @ 3:48 PM ET
Common sense would acknowledge that to be the case. If they don't make it you will see people trying to rationalize it, instead of just taking it for what it is. That said, I think they make it.
- PLindbergh31


orangekrush2010
Location: Its fun to do bad things, MT
Joined: 05.17.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:55 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


i guess the guy didn't find his glasses.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 6 @ 3:55 PM ET
Doesn't really matter who finishes in the second wild card spot. The 1st wild card is playing in the Atlantic. The 2nd plays the team with the best record. That's Washington in the Metro.
- mayorofangrytown


I think the Flyers are playing with house money just getting into the playoffs, so if they can make Washington sweat in the first round, I'm cool with that. The Flyers have played them pretty tough. I have no delusions that the Flyers can keep up with them in a 7 game series, but I think they will make Washington work for it.
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