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jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:43 PM ET
I think if we really want Linholm, we're going to be giving them McCabe.

McCabe, Girgensons, and 2nd

- sskkoo1



If I'm Anaheim, I'm trading a defenseman bc we have 6 young guys we like
Adding McCabe to that makes ZERO sense

That leaves me with 5 young D
I protect my top 4, & hope they take Bieksa or my #5 young guy I didn't protect

In order to do that though...
I need to get back a young forward I won't have to protect, Fasching or Bailey...
bc we can only protect 4 forwards if we do this
Getzlaf, Perry, Silfverberg & Kesler most likely
I'm not taking a guy back that will then just get picked in the expansion draft

jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
He and Stamkos are washed up.
- sbroads24



Hahaha
Totally agree
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Apr 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
I'd take Luke Schenn on the cheap
kingcong39
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Apr 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
I think if we really want Linholm, we're going to be giving them McCabe.

McCabe, Girgensons, and 2nd

- sskkoo1


You may be right but I'm not giving up a young D like McCabe who is loaded with potential and cost controlled.
Sabresfan-365
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Apr 7 @ 11:45 PM ET
Nash with Eichel would be nice.
- SABRES 89


The no trade makes things complicated but id be all for this. GMTM/Sens came pretty close to acquiring him before the trade to NY.
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Apr 7 @ 11:45 PM ET
You may be right but I'm not giving up a young D like McCabe who is loaded with potential and cost controlled.
- kingcong39

No way i'd move McCabe
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:46 PM ET
I meant in a deal for Nash, sorry.
- SABRES 89



Yeah... I'm hoping we don't end up giving him up
Might take that Bailey though

Hopefully they get desperate enough that we can dictate the terms of the deal
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Apr 7 @ 11:47 PM ET
The no trade makes things complicated but id be all for this. GMTM/Sens came pretty close to acquiring him before the trade to NY.
- Sabresfan-365

Might be easier to grab Nash then Hall, Rangers need to move money.
Sabresfan-365
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Apr 7 @ 11:48 PM ET
Might be easier to grab Nash then Hall, Rangers need to move money.
- SABRES 89


in terms of assets yes but Nash has the final say, this will probably require a pegula-copter ride.
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Apr 7 @ 11:49 PM ET
in terms of assets yes but Nash has the final say, this will probably require a pegula-copter ride.
- Sabresfan-365

you are correct, I forgot about that however, play with Eichel and Co. or MAYBE get exposed in a waiver draft.
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:50 PM ET
I think i would float girgensons and pysyk for the best possible lhd and see what offers you get. Murray will probably want somebody very specific and it will cost more. Trading reinhart really gets us into borrowing from peter to pay paul territory. If its a team from the west i would guess bailey or fasching are gonna be asked for. I think you just mentioned it, but winning a bunch of meaningless games this last month has hurt. Really wanted that pick to be useful sometime next year. Probably not gonna happen now.
- rover16




That's what I'm thinking too
Girgs + Pysyk can't get us a partner for Risto unless Milbury becomes a GM again
That's why I think it's gonna be Fasching
Unless Bailey + a 1st is enough

If only Ennis, Girgs & Pysyk didn't have subpar seasons
I think they lost any high end trade value they might have had
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:52 PM ET
I'd take Luke Schenn on the cheap
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UFA I think
He just fought Getzlaf a couple minutes ago

Bringing him in only makes sense of we can dump Gorges & Franson though
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Apr 7 @ 11:52 PM ET
That's what I'm thinking too
Girgs + Pysyk can't get us a partner for Risto unless Milbury becomes a GM again
That's why I think it's gonna be Fasching
Unless Bailey + a 1st is enough

If only Ennis, Girgs & Pysyk didn't have subpar seasons
I think they lost any high end trade value they might have had

- jdfitz77

i think Ennis is exposed if there is a draft
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Apr 7 @ 11:52 PM ET
UFA I think
He just fought Getzlaf a couple minutes ago

Bringing him in only makes sense of we can dump Gorges & Franson though

- jdfitz77

Watching Kings and Ducks now, i've always liked Luke Schenn
sskkoo1
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Apr 7 @ 11:53 PM ET
If I'm Anaheim, I'm trading a defenseman bc we have 6 young guys we like
Adding McCabe to that makes ZERO sense


That leaves me with 5 young D
I protect my top 4, & hope they take Bieksa or my #5 young guy I didn't protect

In order to do that though...
I need to get back a young forward I won't have to protect, Fasching or Bailey...
bc we can only protect 4 forwards if we do this
Getzlaf, Perry, Silfverberg & Kesler most likely
I'm not taking a guy back that will then just get picked in the expansion draft

- jdfitz77


No, but if Anaheim is having trouble signing 2 of their top young defenseman and they can send one away to us thereby locking up the remaining top guy, and than also replacing him with the slightly lesser production of McCabe while also picking up offensive assets (girgensons/draft picks) than that might be an option they want to explore.
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:54 PM ET
Might be easier to grab Nash then Hall, Rangers need to move money.
- SABRES 89



WAY WAY easier
Not just their Cap, but also his age & injury this year will steer some teams away
Hall is also a lot younger
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:57 PM ET
No, but if Anaheim is having trouble signing 2 of their top young defenseman and they can send one away to us thereby locking up the remaining top guy, and than also replacing him with the slightly lesser production of McCabe while also picking up offensive assets (girgensons/draft picks) than that might be an option they want to explore.
- sskkoo1



It doesn't make sense bc then they'd have to expose someone like Theodore, and I just don't see that happening

Bieksa, Stoner, & 6 good defenseman under 25
They'll leave the old guys in protected
But it doesn't make sense for them to take a defenseman back in a deal
Young forward makes WAY more sense

Sorry if my last reply seemed harsh at all
National Beer Day, lol
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Apr 7 @ 11:57 PM ET
WAY WAY easier
Not just their Cap, but also his age & injury this year will steer some teams away
Hall is also a lot younger

- jdfitz77

Agree
Sabresfan-365
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Apr 7 @ 11:57 PM ET
you are correct, I forgot about that however, play with Eichel and Co. or MAYBE get exposed in a waiver draft.
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Hadn't really thought of it that way. Id like to think he'd welcome the chance to play with eichel.
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Apr 7 @ 11:58 PM ET
I think we should bring back Chad Johnson, seems like a smart move.
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Apr 7 @ 11:59 PM ET
Hadn't really thought of it that way. Id like to think he'd welcome the chance to play with eichel.
- Sabresfan-365

I think I made that sound wrong, Play with Eichel and co. or stay with the Rangers and have a chance at being exposed in waiver draft. I doubt he wants to play with an expansion team. Is that what you meant also?
jdfitz77
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Apr 7 @ 11:59 PM ET
i think Ennis is exposed if there is a draft
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Even if he scores 20+ again next year?
I'd guess we'd just trade him if he rebounds like I expect him to


Heck, we might have to wait till next offseason to trade for Risto's partner
We don't have much to offer right now
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Apr 8 @ 12:01 AM ET
Even if he scores 20+ again next year?
I'd guess we'd just trade him if he rebounds like I expect him to


Heck, we might have to wait till next offseason to trade for Risto's partner
We don't have much to offer right now

- jdfitz77

gotta expose a certain amount of money don't we ? Ennis is 4.6 a year.
jdfitz77
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Apr 8 @ 12:01 AM ET
No way i'd move McCabe
- SABRES 89



Me either
I said back in the day that I expected it to be McCabe eventually paired with Risto, and Zadorov on the 2nd pair with Myers
jdfitz77
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Apr 8 @ 12:03 AM ET
gotta expose a certain amount of money don't we ? Ennis is 4.6 a year.
- SABRES 89



True...
Depends who we still have
Moulson & Gorges make up about half of what we'd need to expose if they're still around
It shouldn't be an issue


This Kings vs Ducks game is GREAT!
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