This. We need to have those players cooking in the minors for a while and then able to step in to key roles when the cap struggles come. That way they're ready to play in the system and can also play on the cheap.

Another reason why I want Rochester to start doing well. I know that we don't want a log jam of players that can't all play in ROC (although they could also go to the ECHL but that's different) I do want players being on the same team and with a similar system so that they build chemistry and can jump right in a la Detroit.
- Zschalberg

Richard Rackell -30th overall, developed for 4 years, now a top 6 player

JT Miller - 15th overall, back and forth from the AHL for last two years, now a 20 goal scorer. Will have even bigger role when they move Nash

Tyler Toffoli- 47th overall - Developed for 4 years, now a 20+ goal scorer


Yea....I'd like to have a couple guys like this waiting for when Kane wants 7+ a year

True. I get that this is their big bargaining chip, just annoys me when TT's agent is mad because "The Bills won't give us money now even though last year we said we'd take their offer for 2 years". You made the deal, if they don't want to do anything about it now, that's their call.
- Zschalberg

It's about financial security. If Tyrod Taylor goes into the season and bombs, or even gets hurt, the Bills can cut him with little ramifications. It's the nature of the business.

True. I get that this is their big bargaining chip, just annoys me when TT's agent is mad because "The Bills won't give us money now even though last year we said we'd take their offer for 2 years". You made the deal, if they don't want to do anything about it now, that's their call.
- Zschalberg

We have him for 2 more seasons still too. 1.3 in his 3rd year

We have him for 2 more seasons still too. 1.3 in his 3rd year
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

3rd season is voided

3rd season is voided
- sbroads24

Yup something about games started or something like that

Yup something about games started or something like that
- Stripes77

50% of snaps taken in 2015 I think

50% of snaps taken in 2015 I think
- sbroads24

Yeah just looked it up 50% in 15 or 50% in 16 or being on the active roster 5 days after the 2016 SB. So it was going to be voided no matter what.


Interesting based on his current value and breakdown.

http://www.spotrac.com/re...t-value-tyrod-taylor-560/

Richard Rackell -30th overall, developed for 4 years, now a top 6 player

JT Miller - 15th overall, back and forth from the AHL for last two years, now a 20 goal scorer. Will have even bigger role when they move Nash

Tyler Toffoli- 47th overall - Developed for 4 years, now a 20+ goal scorer


Yea....I'd like to have a couple guys like this waiting for when Kane wants 7+ a year
- sbroads24

16 1 Joel Armia
13 1 Zack Kassian
13 1 Marek Zagrapan
13 1 Drew Stafford

16 1 Joel Armia
13 1 Zack Kassian
13 1 Marek Zagrapan
13 1 Drew Stafford
- bluengold12

And if our GM is a "Genius" as some has touted him as, then those should be avoidable.

Richard Rackell -30th overall, developed for 4 years, now a top 6 player

JT Miller - 15th overall, back and forth from the AHL for last two years, now a 20 goal scorer. Will have even bigger role when they move Nash

Tyler Toffoli- 47th overall - Developed for 4 years, now a 20+ goal scorer


Yea....I'd like to have a couple guys like this waiting for when Kane wants 7+ a year
- sbroads24

johan Larsson, 23 yrs. old, bounces between Rochester and Buffalo for three seasons, full time Sabre this year--141 NHL games played, 16 goals, 21 assists, .262 points per game

or Zemgus Girgensons, 21--one season in Rochester three in Buffalo, 200 games played, 30 goals, 40 assists, .350 points/game

or Marcus Foligno, 24, who bounces between Rochester an buffalo for two seasons before landing with the Sabres full time--265 games, 35 goals, 57 assists, .351 points/game

16 1 Joel Armia
13 1 Zack Kassian
13 1 Marek Zagrapan
13 1 Drew Stafford
- bluengold12

Our Sidney Crosby

Our Sidney Crosby
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Re: trading the pick for studs: if we trade it we don't have it. THat's my point.

Re: Good team down the road: lets eat this cow one steak at a time, OK. Let's get good now before we worry about being good down the road.
- Der Kaiser

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

johan Larsson, 23 yrs. old, bounces between Rochester and Buffalo for three seasons, full time Sabre this year--141 NHL games played, 16 goals, 21 assists, .262 points per game

or Zemgus Girgensons, 21--one season in Rochester three in Buffalo, 200 games played, 30 goals, 40 assists, .350 points/game

or Marcus Foligno, 24, who bounces between Rochester an buffalo for two seasons before landing with the Sabres full time--265 games, 35 goals, 57 assists, .351 points/game
- Michael Pachla

3 more good examples

johan Larsson, 23 yrs. old, bounces between Rochester and Buffalo for three seasons, full time Sabre this year--141 NHL games played, 16 goals, 21 assists, .262 points per game

or Zemgus Girgensons, 21--one season in Rochester three in Buffalo, 200 games played, 30 goals, 40 assists, .350 points/game

or Marcus Foligno, 24, who bounces between Rochester an buffalo for two seasons before landing with the Sabres full time--265 games, 35 goals, 57 assists, .351 points/game
- Michael Pachla

I still think these three would make a formidable 3rd line for several years to come. I actually think murray should give them all 3-ish year contracts at a reasonable "you haven't really proven anything" rate. if one of them busts out in those 3 years, trade them at high value and replace them with Justin Bailey.

Who wants a muStash ride?

I still think these three would make a formidable 3rd line for several years to come. I actually think murray should give them all 3-ish year contracts at a reasonable "you haven't really proven anything" rate. if one of them busts out in those 3 years, trade them at high value and replace them with Justin Bailey.
- seedy

For all 3 it would be too expensive of a 3rd line IMO. Do you think that line would total under 6m total? Cause that is what i would want the total 3rd line salary at.

3 more good examples
- sbroads24

i'm not a fan of trading away their first round pick this season...as deep as the prospect pool is, the talent level isn't as high as it could be, imo...

heading into next season they'll have their top-two centers and two top-six wingers with ennis as a wild card...Foligno, Girgensons and Larsson should all be considered top-nine...

where's the toffolis, taresenkos, nylanders, teravainens and such

i'm not a fan of trading away their first round pick this season...as deep as the prospect pool is, the talent level isn't as high as it could be, imo...

heading into next season they'll have their top-two centers and two top-six wingers with ennis as a wild card...Foligno, Girgensons and Larsson should all be considered top-nine...

where's the toffolis, taresenkos, nylanders, teravainens and such
- Michael Pachla

Im not a fan of it either, im usually pro draft picks. However, They need a top pairing d-man and I only see that happening one of two ways. A package around the 2016 1st or Reinhart. Anyone else who costs less is likely not a solution to the top pair problem (fowler, yandle etc.)

Im not a fan of it either, im usually pro draft picks. However, They need a top pairing d-man and I only see that happening one of two ways. A package around the 2016 1st or Reinhart. Anyone else who costs less is likely not a solution to the top pair problem (fowler, yandle etc.)
- Sabresfan-365

Why trade Reinhart ? For someone better than him ?

We have a incredible player and now lets trade him and make a hole.

Why trade Reinhart ? For someone better than him ?

We have a incredible player and now lets trade him and make a hole.

- cabin

He is just as untouchable as Jack, IMO.

Why trade Reinhart ? For someone better than him ?

We have a incredible player and now lets trade him and make a hole.

- cabin

Again, that's why im pro trading the pick...

Edit: especially after seeing Reinhart's jump and our fall in the draft order.

Im not a fan of it either, im usually pro draft picks. However, They need a top pairing d-man and I only see that happening one of two ways. A package around the 2016 1st or Reinhart. Anyone else who costs less is likely not a solution to the top pair problem (fowler, yandle etc.)
- Sabresfan-365

they're ranked 15th in goals-against with a new system and without that type of d-man...not saying they don't need one, but i'd rather keep the pick and see what they've got for another season

He is just as untouchable as Jack, IMO.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

What would it cost to trade for a player like him if he was on another team and they were stupid enough to make him available .

Again, that's why im pro trading the pick...

Edit: especially after seeing Reinhart's jump and our fall in the draft order.
- Sabresfan-365

Good. I'm tired of waiting on picks to fail and try to trade them away for even more picks.