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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 6:24 AM ET
Im sorry you dont see this correctly. we have a god awful D coach that is the worst Ive ever seen. Our D has been the worst in NHL since he's arrived. You cant put D failure on JB unless its not firing that clown earlier.

Our home record has suffered all season, what more do you need to see in that? WHy wait and prolong our agony? Just get better people here now.

- SMBDragon

who is out there right now that we could jettison WD and Lidster for?

i say wait and see if anyone comes available in the off season. like claude julien or someone else... frankly, we should have jettisoned AV in favour of Q but hindsight is 20/20
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:27 AM ET
nope...never been with a hooker ever. Not even interested in it at all.

Its too bad itd be immoral to post pics on internet of the shenanigans I get up to on my nights out. It'd be entertaining for many. My friends posted 1 pic once from my night out and it went viral....Im still hearing about it lol

- SMBDragon



Post of the year
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 6:55 AM ET
who is out there right now that we could jettison WD and Lidster for?

i say wait and see if anyone comes available in the off season. like claude julien or someone else... frankly, we should have jettisoned AV in favour of Q but hindsight is 20/20

- kaptaan

on the lidster side....anyone.
So sure there isnt many head coaches out there as we'd like. That could change in the next few months though.

I have always liked Carlyle. He is amazing as a coach. F(ck he actually succeeded in the LEAFS into the POs! My god. Better than babcock has done thats for sure. He'd be excellent even just to run the D.

Doug Houda would be great at either D coach or HC too. JB tried to get him before settling on the current crew.
Julien could become available too. He was excellent in the olympics.

SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 6:56 AM ET
Post of the year
- Canada Cup

why thank you.....I accept cash and cheque
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 8:00 AM ET
Im sorry you dont see this correctly. we have a god awful D coach that is the worst Ive ever seen. Our D has been the worst in NHL since he's arrived. You cant put D failure on JB unless its not firing that clown earlier.

Our home record has suffered all season, what more do you need to see in that? WHy wait and prolong our agony? Just get better people here now.

- SMBDragon


1 sad year & your in high panic mode like the sky is falling.
Show a lil patience & except the fact this season is not all that surprising.
Idc what happened last season when we had more prospects than ever before in our history & we had the need to force so many rookies to play this year.

U ignore the injuries & the 1st half schedule quite conveniently.
Bart & Weber were useless & nothing to do with coaching.
D don't grow on trees & the UFA market was thin & will be thin again.
The draft is where teams improve on D & has been that way for years.
Trading for top 4 D is hard until a team is under a cap crunch eg Boychuk/Leddy
I say an OS over & over again cuz a 1st & 3rd in 2017 is a fair price.
Lindholm is a huge upgrade if can be had for that. Demers a top 4 D UFA at best.
Add to that all the kids playing F & team defence suffered as expected.

U harp over & over all it is is coaching & all is fixed. I disagree when aged core & only 2 yrs into the transition. once again JB said the depth problem is on himself. The cup runs caused a lost tier of players where we have 30+ yr olds & kids. That gap is not filled & fixed easily.

28th PP had very much to do with lower scoring & home wins.
3rd period collapses on team D & Miller not worth his 6m.

Explain how WD's team goes from a 0-9 then beat SJ Ana & LA when the entire league struggles against those same teams on the road there?

Do forget JB saying we have not drafted D in the 1st rd in 10 yrs?
Does that not say anything or its heh just get a new D coach & voila.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 8 @ 8:34 AM ET
I don't know what to say boys other then the Canucks are just a complete garbage team. I'm sorry for all of you that need to go through this
- Bigalow

Good luck with year 13 of your rebuild DB. Looks like Shink will be an excellent bottom 6 addition and you guy can keep working on your top 6 for your next 5 years of mediocrity. Good on you guys.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 8:34 AM ET
1 sad year & your in high panic mode like the sky is falling.
Show a lil patience & except the fact this season is not all that surprising.
Idc what happened last season when we had more prospects than ever before in our history & we had the need to force so many rookies to play this year.

U ignore the injuries & the 1st half schedule quite conveniently.
Bart & Weber were useless & nothing to do with coaching.
D don't grow on trees & the UFA market was thin & will be thin again.
The draft is where teams improve on D & has been that way for years.
Trading for top 4 D is hard until a team is under a cap crunch eg Boychuk/Leddy
I say an OS over & over again cuz a 1st & 3rd in 2017 is a fair price.
Lindholm is a huge upgrade if can be had for that. Demers a top 4 D UFA at best.
Add to that all the kids playing F & team defence suffered as expected.

U harp over & over all it is is coaching & all is fixed. I disagree when aged core & only 2 yrs into the transition. once again JB said the depth problem is on himself. The cup runs caused a lost tier of players where we have 30+ yr olds & kids. That gap is not filled & fixed easily.

28th PP had very much to do with lower scoring & home wins.
3rd period collapses on team D & Miller not worth his 6m.

Explain how WD's team goes from a 0-9 then beat SJ Ana & LA when the entire league struggles against those same teams on the road there?

Do forget JB saying we have not drafted D in the 1st rd in 10 yrs?
Does that not say anything or its heh just get a new D coach & voila.

- Nighthawk

if there was some logic to the defence systems and special teams it might not be a big deal... but when its a gong show everywhere, something's got to give.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 8:37 AM ET
Latest NCAA scoring race stats....

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/overall.php

Boeser tied for 3rd.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 8:38 AM ET
on the lidster side....anyone.
So sure there isnt many head coaches out there as we'd like. That could change in the next few months though.

I have always liked Carlyle. He is amazing as a coach. F(ck he actually succeeded in the LEAFS into the POs! My god. Better than babcock has done thats for sure. He'd be excellent even just to run the D.

Doug Houda would be great at either D coach or HC too. JB tried to get him before settling on the current crew.
Julien could become available too. He was excellent in the olympics.

- SMBDragon

agreed on the defense front and you agree regarding julien and waiting to see who else is out there. i've also liked carlyle, i think he got unfairly blamed in toronto... wouldn't mind him at all. think he'd bring systems and strategy to the team.

also, babcrock is overrated...

coach Q should be heading up team Canada from now on out and the only reason he isn't is cuz Babcock that wiener isn't willing to concede that Q is a better coach with more titles even though babcock had roughly the same or more talent (especially when hossa was added to the team the year they lost to the penguins - datsyuk zetterberg hossa lidstrom etc... and he couldn't win the cup)...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 8:40 AM ET
if there was some logic to the defence systems and special teams it might not be a big deal... but when its a gong show everywhere, something's got to give.
- kaptaan


Yes team D &/or system seems problematic mostly due to poor D corp.
I say it gives if 25 games into next season & problems still persist.
PP just sux but PK holds its own pretty much.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 8:41 AM ET
if CBJ lose both and we lose both, they take 3rd. If they get 1 point and we lose both games, we get 3rd.
- Codes1087

i brought it up cuz you kept mentioning WPG for some reason.... and didn't mention the BJs at all...
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 8:43 AM ET
Yes team D &/or system seems problematic mostly due to poor D corp.
I say it gives if 25 games into next season & problems still persist.
PP just sux but PK holds its own pretty much.

- Nighthawk

25 games in and we might have lost the season already... why not bring in a decent coach (carlyle, julien, etc...) who can implement systems by getting appropriate assistant coaches over the summer, and then use them in training camp and pre-season
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 8:45 AM ET
agreed on the defense front and you agree regarding julien and waiting to see who else is out there. i've also liked carlyle, i think he got unfairly blamed in toronto... wouldn't mind him at all. think he'd bring systems and strategy to the team.

also, babcrock is overrated...

coach Q should be heading up team Canada from now on out and the only reason he isn't is cuz Babcock that wiener isn't willing to concede that Q is a better coach with more titles even though babcock had roughly the same or more talent (especially when hossa was added to the team the year they lost to the penguins - datsyuk zetterberg hossa lidstrom etc... and he couldn't win the cup)...

- kaptaan


Like Babcock or not but Q got high draft picks to make his life easier.
Babcock & Holland did it the hard way & for many years.
Taking nothing away from Q or Babcock but its Tallon & Holland that get it done.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 8:50 AM ET
25 games in and we might have lost the season already... why not bring in a decent coach (carlyle, julien, etc...) who can implement systems by getting appropriate assistant coaches over the summer, and then use them in training camp and pre-season
- kaptaan


25 games in is what JB said is the 1st indicator.
Nothing will happen before then IMO
After that I'd hire a coach only if one is available or fired preferably.
P Maurice or D Cameron or Julien come to my mind.
If not then & WD is gone then an interim coach from within maybe.
Next year is not a make or break year but the kids need to progress.
Only other possibility is all the kids come on like gangbusters & we leap ahead faster on our move towards a new core. I won't hold my breath on that one but do expect 1 or 2 of the kids to show they belong & make big strides.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 8:57 AM ET
i always liked what carbonneau was doing in mtl before that idiot gainey fired him for not playing Price enough... carbo knew halak could win them some games and get them into the playoffs, but gainey the clown wanted price to get all the starts...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 9:02 AM ET
i always liked what carbonneau was doing in mtl before that idiot gainey fired him for not playing Price enough... carbo knew halak could win them some games and get them into the playoffs, but gainey the clown wanted price to get all the starts...
- kaptaan


Thats a good oneπŸ‘πŸ‘
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 9:10 AM ET
Ran the sim 10x & only 1 3rd pick
Ran Tankathon Sim 10x & 1 1st & 1 3rd

Not good lol
Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Apr 8 @ 9:11 AM ET
Ran the sim 10x & only 1 3rd pick
Ran Tankathon Sim 10x & 1 1st & 1 3rd

Not good lol

- Nighthawk


Just shows how hard it is this year
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 9:16 AM ET
Just shows how hard it is this year
- Bigalow


No guarantees for any team in the lotto thats for sure.
Still a good pick no matter how it goes down in the top 6-8 picks.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 8 @ 9:23 AM ET
Thats a good oneπŸ‘πŸ‘
- Nighthawk

price was just learning the game and wasn't playing great by any stretch...

just read this, maybe gainey doesn't deserve all the heat for the firing, http://www.habseyesonthep...omething-smells-rotten-in

then there's this which supports what i wrote earlier
http://bleacherreport.com...-happy-to-be-on-the-bench
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 9:38 AM ET
My. Predictions for the summer


Demko signed in the next 5 days if not today.

North Dakota BC born Dman sign with us by the 15 th

Lotto pick or Sergachev first round pick

Second round Carter Hart or Neimelainen

Third round Ty Ronning

Lots of Sedin trade talk and Fire WD on the 1040

Canucks let Hamhuis walk

Two UFA signings ( one might be Lucic)

Lots of arguing on here
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 8 @ 9:46 AM ET
My. Predictions for the summer


Demko signed in the next 5 days if not today.

North Dakota BC born Dman sign with us by the 15 th

Lotto pick or Sergachev first round pick

Second round Carter Hart or Neimelainen

Third round Ty Ronning

Lots of Sedin trade talk and Fire WD on the 1040

Canucks let Hamhuis walk

Two UFA signings ( one might be Lucic)

Lots of arguing on here

- VANTEL


lol yep
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 9:52 AM ET
My. Predictions for the summer


Demko signed in the next 5 days if not today.

North Dakota BC born Dman sign with us by the 15 th

Lotto pick or Sergachev first round pick

Second round Carter Hart or Neimelainen

Third round Ty Ronning

Lots of Sedin trade talk and Fire WD on the 1040

Canucks let Hamhuis walk

Two UFA signings ( one might be Lucic)

Lots of arguing on here

- VANTEL


All very plausible each & every point lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 8 @ 9:53 AM ET

edit: Was pretty disappointing to watch the 3 straight wins vs the California teams. Good for the kids for sure but three losses there would have basically solidified top 3 in one of Matthews Laine or Pulojevi (hopefully) that would have been able to step in and contribute next season. As much I want the D pick and would be ok with Sergechev or even Chychrun...those guys won't be ready for awhile.

Would be nice to get a franchise talent that can step in and contribute next season.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 8 @ 9:54 AM ET
derp.
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