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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nashville was in the playoffs for 8 straight years. Trotz will get the Jack Adams this year, he has never had a top-6 to work with before this year and Washington has been a juggernaut under him. Laviolette was out of work for many years because of how defensively flawed his system was, all offense in Philly. Luckily for him, he's coaching the best d-corps in the NHL or they may not be in the playoffs at all. He has turned them around offensively though.

I agree WD is not that great, but Trotz is top-5.

- neem55

Yes I agree with you, Laviolette is not defensively great. He tweaks games but he has holes too. Noticed that when he was in philly. (notice Ive never said I wanted him here....for that reason). Still beat the pens though.

THe point was some doubt a coaches role and credit rosters. But they went from terrible to #1 by adding him (and assistants), so obviously those people are very wrong.

We must all remember that its not all on 1 guy either. Its also who he has with him. Laviolette should partner with a defense coach that is stellar for a more complete system. People crediting a single coach for success dont understand that theres more people in that success story chain. HC's usually dont run defense. It does happen, but unusual. Houda for example runs bostons stellar D. But fans credit Julien which is completely inaccurate.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
I agree but Nashville was a different team when they missed. This unknown guy named Pekka Rinne was injured for most of the year and played only 24 games. Nashville missed the playoffs. This guys comes back and plays 65 games Nashville is in the playoffs. I think you should give him some credit as well.
- Linden_4_Capt

of course that is a factor as well.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
Nashville was in the playoffs for 8 straight years. Trotz will get the Jack Adams this year, he has never had a top-6 to work with before this year and Washington has been a juggernaut under him. Laviolette was out of work for many years because of how defensively flawed his system was, all offense in Philly. Luckily for him, he's coaching the best d-corps in the NHL or they may not be in the playoffs at all. He has turned them around offensively though.

I agree WD is not that great, but Trotz is top-5.

- neem55


edit: it was 9 times in ten seasons, not eight in a row. My bad.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yes I agree with you, Laviolette is not defensively great. He tweaks games but he has holes too. Noticed that when he was in philly. (notice Ive never said I wanted him here....for that reason). Still beat the pens though.

THe point was some doubt a coaches role and credit rosters. But they went from terrible to #1 by adding him, so obviously those people are very wrong.

We must all remember that its not all on 1 guy either. Its also who he has with him. Laviolette should partner with a defense coach that is stellar for a more complete system. People crediting a single coach for success dont understand that theres more people in that success story chain. HC's usually dont run defense. It does happen, but unusual. Houda for example runs bostons stellar D. But fans credit Julien which is completely inaccurate.

- SMBDragon



That's fair. I think it's safe to say whoever coaches d under Trotz deserves a HC nod perhaps, although I was under the impression that he as a coach is very defensive minded (which is why getting OV to "buy in" was such a big deal)
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:56 PM ET
That's fair. I think it's safe to say whoever coaches d under Trotz deserves a HC nod perhaps, although I was under the impression that he as a coach is very defensive minded (which is why getting OV to "buy in" was such a big deal)
- neem55

As I said, it does happen sometimes but rarely. Thats often an entire team defensive system then.
Problem with those systems is its not very flexible. So teams using that get killed in the playoffs by good coaches for being inflexible tactically. Thats why you'll get teams that have great seasons but no playoff success. And lets face it, trotz has pretty much none.

Look at st louis. Have they even won a playoff round with hitchcock? Dont recall them winning, and its for that same reason.

like Ive pointed out before in the last 10 years of the SC winners all 10 coaches of those teams have been tactical tweaker coaches. It is a reality of todays NHL. You cannot win the cup without it. So do not bet on washington or st louis winning the cup this year.
Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Apr 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
Good assessment, you're thoughtful and unbiased Calgary fan and we value you your trolling... I mean opinion
- neem55


If you couldn't see that in last nights game I'm sorry but your clearly blind... And a little bit in denial
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
BC cuts the lead in half.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:05 PM ET
Steaming, Im having one of those days again

Their may be a fatality!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
They will need a long leash when the flames kick your wussy asses all the way back to Hongcouver. Calgary 7 Cansucks 1 book it and (frank) you.
- mooseknuckle

Thanks for showing your racism, keep up the class.
Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Apr 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
They will need a long leash when the flames kick your wussy asses all the way back to Hongcouver. Calgary 7 Cansucks 1 book it and (frank) you.
- mooseknuckle


Lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
As I said, it does happen sometimes but rarely. Thats often an entire team defensive system then.
Problem with those systems is its not very flexible. So teams using that get killed in the playoffs by good coaches for being inflexible tactically. Thats why you'll get teams that have great seasons but no playoff success. And lets face it, trotz has pretty much none.

Look at st louis. Have they even won a playoff round with hitchcock? Dont recall them winning, and its for that same reason.

like Ive pointed out before in the last 10 years of the SC winners all 10 coaches of those teams have been tactical tweaker coaches. It is a reality of todays NHL. You cannot win the cup without it. So do not bet on washington or st louis winning the cup this year.

- SMBDragon


Again, he's never had a top-6 forward group. The all-time leading scorer for Nashville? Who knows, they've never had any talent up front. His fist year in washington to a game 7 away from the conference finals, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by no playoffs success.

We'll see how washington does this playoffs, I know where I put my money before the season started so I sure hope you're wrong
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
Steaming, Im having one of those days again

Their may be a fatality!

- vancity787

I fired one of my girls Friday, 1st firing in 24 years of business, it's not fun.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:11 PM ET
poop 3-1 Quinnipiac, PP goal
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
They will need a long leash when the flames kick your wussy asses all the way back to Hongcouver. Calgary 7 Cansucks 1 book it and (frank) you.
- mooseknuckle


poor grammar and racist, are you from Calgary by chance?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
poop 3-1 Quinnipiac, PP goal
- A_SteamingLombardi


Do you have a link??
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
Just stating that there are a lot of Chinese here which there are. not racism
- Bigalow


Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Apr 7 @ 6:16 PM ET

- neem55


You guys are a little sensitive today
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:16 PM ET
Do you have a link??
- neem55

I'm watching TSN2.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 7 @ 6:17 PM ET
I found that my best bosses were very >>>unemotional. Thats not the right word but it took a lot to get them going. Very calm and soft spoken.
- thundachunk


People like passion/vigor, or at least the idea of it, but just like having a daily rant, you can't take it serious after awhile.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'm watching TSN2.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Ahh crap. I'm on campus. I'll find one...
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 6:18 PM ET
Again, he's never had a top-6 forward group. The all-time leading scorer for Nashville? Who knows, they've never had any talent up front. His fist year in washington to a game 7 away from the conference finals, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by no playoffs success.

We'll see how washington does this playoffs, I know where I put my money before the season started so I sure hope you're wrong

- neem55

I guess Im thinking of his nash years. I forget this isnt his 1st year w caps.
might be too many blonde gfs for me recently
the red heads always been smarter.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 6:18 PM ET
You guys are a little sensitive today
- Bigalow

I have a half Asian Daughter and a half Asian Granddaughter, so you can take your racism and shove it up your ass.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 6:20 PM ET
I have a half Asian Daughter and a half Asian Granddaughter, so you can take your racism and shove it up your ass.
- A_SteamingLombardi

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:20 PM ET
I guess Im thinking of his nash years. I forget this isnt his 1st year w caps.
might be too many blonde gfs for me recently
the red heads always been smarter.

- SMBDragon


Not a brunette guy? I like the olive skin, so I lean in that direction. Give me four beers and I tend to not notice hair color among other things though...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 6:25 PM ET
You guys are a little sensitive today
- Bigalow


I'm not a fan of racism of any kind on any given day. You're implying Hongcouver is not a racist name is just as ignorant as it gets.
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