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Apr 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
I'm assuming that Mashinter's presence on the 3rd line today is just part of another Q Jedi mind trick... But, if Mashinter or Bickell should see playoff ice time ahead of Weise, is it safe to say that we have a big issue in the bowels of 1901 W Madison Street? - jmarducci
If it's another Q jedi mind trick, I think it's working.
Let's see:
Mash in on 3rd line. CHECK
Weise out. CHECK
Rasmussen sent down. CHECK
Bickell (ignore this move)
Rundblad recalled. CHECK
Somebody call the men in the white coats for me.
Q and company have lost their minds.
Chicago BlackhawksVerified account @NHLBlackhawks 2m2 minutes agoThe #Blackhawks recall defenseman David Rundblad from the @goicehogs and reassign Bickell and Rasmussen to Rockford.
Oh sweeet lord baby jeebus no. - roots_gamble
No shocked to see Bickell go back down and I guess they just want Rasmussen to play. The Rundblad move however????
Don't tell me, tell Q.
We are getting the mind-(frank) of the century here by Q. Just think of how guys like Rasmussen and Weise feel. - savvyone-1
Mashinter should never see ice time over either of them. Sending Moose down? Bringing Runblad up? What in the (frank) is going on?! Just when I was starting to get hopeful too... Q is already in WTF mode and the series hasn't even started. Probably means he's gonna have 2 and 4 back together too. Makes me think One and Done when earlier this morning I very much thought the Hawks could win in 7.
Mashinter should never see ice time over either of them. Sending Moose down? What in the (frank) is going on?! Just when I was starting to get hopeful too... Q is already in WTF mode and the series hasn't even started. Probably means he's gonna have 2 and 4 back together too. Makes me think One and Done when earlier this morning I very much thought the Hawks could win in 7. - maria_wyeth
Ok confused now. Moose sent down and Runblad being called up? Ummmmm Everytime Moose is in, he is all hustle and solid overall. A perfect big C for 3/4 line stuff. That means land of lost toys Mashinter is in. Phuck O Dear.. Now Runblad?!?!?
I SAID IT... The X Factor is Q. Not a good start at all. Hell Hitch doesnt have to do anything. Q is already spun out and we havent even droppd the puck for game 1 Could be a real short post season people... Rundblad is uber soft and will be destroyed by the Blues. God please let this be bullschit...
If it's another Q jedi mind trick, I think it's working.
Let's see:
Mash in on 3rd line. CHECK
Weise out. CHECK
Rasmussen sent down. CHECK
Bickell (ignore this move)
Rundblad recalled. CHECK
Somebody call the men in the white coats for me.
Q and company have lost their minds. - savvyone-1
Media at the post-practice interview asked Q directly about Weise and why he wasn't playing him. Q did the dead-eye stare when answering. Made it clear he doesn't think he's made an impact.
Media asked Q directly about Weise today at the post-practice interview and why he wasn't playing him. Q did the dead-eye stare when answering. Made it clear he doesn't think he's made an impact. - pdx2ord
I wish they had asked why on earth they sent down Rasmussen over Mashinter
Or even if they had just asked Q to explain what impact Mashinter has made at all. What is Q seeing that literally everyone else is not?
I wish they had asked why on earth they sent down Rasmussen over Mashinter
Or even if they had just asked Q to explain what impact Mashinter has made at all. What is Q seeing that literally everyone else is not? - maria_wyeth
Unfortunately, that beauty decision had not been announced yet. You'd think if it was about Rockford's success in the playoffs, they'd send their long-time Captain down.
Unfortunately, that beauty decision had not been announced yet. You'd think if it was about Rockford's success in the playoffs, they'd send their long-time Captain down. - pdx2ord
I think it was Second City Hockey but possible another site/blog that did a breakdown of the stats with and without Mashinter and they are objectively a worse team by basically every metric when they play Mashinter... I'm just so perplexed how Q doesn't see that, or if he does, why he doesn't think that's important
Edit: not to mention that saddling TT with Mashinter basically guarantees TT isn't gonna be productive... no way Mash can finish anything TT sets up
Panik first one off the bench should someone slip up/get injured. If Mash taters sniffs any ice time outside of multiple injuries it's a disgrace to the rest of the team. There is absolutely no way him being on the ice gives the team a better chance to win.
Keith slots in on 1st d pairing when he gets back. Please ignore if I got anybody on their wrong sides here, assume everyone is playing on their strong side.
Panik first one off the bench should someone slip up/get injured. If Mash taters sniffs any ice time outside of multiple injuries it's a disgrace to the rest of the team. There is absolutely no way him being on the ice gives the team a better chance to win.
Keith slots in on 1st d pairing when he gets back. Please ignore if I got anybody on their wrong sides here, assume everyone is playing on their strong side. - roots_gamble
beautiful lineup. I agree with every part. No idea why Q insists on deliberately not playing the best roster he could
Unfortunately, that beauty decision had not been announced yet. You'd think if it was about Rockford's success in the playoffs, they'd send their long-time Captain down. - pdx2ord
Seriously! I just also don't understand what Mashinter has done that Weise hasn't... besides NOT making good hits
Media at the post-practice interview asked Q directly about Weise and why he wasn't playing him. Q did the dead-eye stare when answering. Made it clear he doesn't think he's made an impact. - pdx2ord
Wow Q... Big brass ballz. Ok fine. If this team flames in round 1 and guys like Weise are sitting and watching? Again Q not playing the best 12 forwards he has.
I thought Weise was a great addition. A guy you need for the dump-chase playoff style. A guy who will hammer the D and battle on the boards. Now Q sits him.
If Im the GM, Q better be prepared for a WTF one way conversation if the team gets run early. Just wow....
beautiful lineup. I agree with every part. No idea why Q insists on deliberately not playing the best roster he could - maria_wyeth
Guess I've never fully understood who makes the decision about call-ups and send-downs. Is it Stan? or Q? or ideally, both?
ETA: Because if the former, I'm picturing in my head (not seriously), Stan saying "OK, you don't want to play the experienced playoff forward I got you in Weise, deal with my fav toy, Runblad."
Guess I've never fully understood who makes the decision about call-ups and send-downs. Is it Stan? or Q? or ideally, both?
ETA: Because if the former, I'm picturing in my head (not seriously), Stan saying "OK, you don't want to play the experienced playoff forward I got you in Weise, deal with my fav toy, Runblad." - pdx2ord
I actually think you are right. Q won't play people that Stan knows are better than Mashinter, so why not recall Runblad?
Especially since Rasmussen could be moved to wing, and can take faceoffs, and he's big, there isn't a single thing I can think of that Mashinter even can do (not to mention him actually doing it, like all the enforcing he is allegedly here for) that Rasmussen can't do better.
Stan: I made some trades that people are going to hate me for (Danault) and you won't even play the people I got, won't play the best 12 forwards you have. Fine then, Have fun with Bladder
Blues need a coach that they will play for--regardless of his track record-- and the coach has to adjust to get the most out of the players and WIN big games-- so far that has NOT happened in the playoffs-- with Hitch and the Blues core as constructed--
Take a look at Trotz and the Caps how they are performing under him as opposed to Boudreau-- Trotz track record isn't highlighted by Cups or several hundred wins-- BUT the players will go through a wall for him--
Of the group you mentioned the only one I would want is Parayko-- and thought I heard the Hawks had him lined up and Armstrong swooped in last minute or something like that-- - jb3333
I would have loved that but Bowman probably would have given him away probably with Danault or Dano in either of the trades. I like Trotz ,you are right about him. Ithink Hitch gets a bad rap here because he coaches a rival Blues. If ya ever met the guy, you'd like him instantly. He's just doing his job the way he believes in, just like Q ,Trotz, or any of us in our line of work. If we never had Q and Hitch fell into our laps ,I would have no problem with him behind the bench here.
Hawks win game one 2-1. Mashinter and Rundblad with a goal and assist each.
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Apr 11 @ 7:04 PM ET
Guess I've never fully understood who makes the decision about call-ups and send-downs. Is it Stan? or Q? or ideally, both?
ETA: Because if the former, I'm picturing in my head (not seriously), Stan saying "OK, you don't want to play the experienced playoff forward I got you in Weise, deal with my fav toy, Runblad." - pdx2ord
I find it so hard to believe that (a) Stan and Q wouldn't talk about movement between Chicago and Rockford, or possible trades, or anything else that affects on-ice performance; (b) that Q would deliberately not play someone just to stick it to Stan; (c) that Stan would deliberately put skaters on the team that Q hates just to stick it to the coach.
Can these guys really be stupid enough to deliberately screw up a potential Cup championship team, just because of pique or ego or power struggle - these are not stupid men, they have each been successful in the sport, what they do is in full view of the public, the press, McD and Rocky, and (most important) us idiots on hockey blogs.
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL Joined: 03.04.2011
Apr 11 @ 7:04 PM ET
Hawks win game one 2-1. Mashinter and Rundblad with a goal and assist each. - SimpleJack
You can put down the sauce until at least game day, preferably an hour before puck-drop.
But, I can see the need to drink early and often with a bench general that should be ready for the guys in the white coats before the 1st puck is dropped in the 2016 playoffs.
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL Joined: 03.04.2011
Apr 11 @ 7:09 PM ET
I find it so hard to believe that (a) Stan and Q wouldn't talk about movement between Chicago and Rockford, or possible trades, or anything else that affects on-ice performance; (b) that Q would deliberately not play someone just to stick it to Stan; (c) that Stan would deliberately put skaters on the team that Q hates just to stick it to the coach.
Can these guys really be stupid enough to deliberately screw up a potential Cup championship team, just because of pique or ego or power struggle - these are not stupid men, they have each been successful in the sport, what they do is in full view of the public, the press, McD and Rocky, and (most important) us idiots on hockey blogs. - StLBravesFan
You/we'd like to think so Sage, but are our eyes deceiving us?
I think not.
If this latest round of b.s. doesn't smack of a power struggle, of a guy with 3 Cups telling the GM, here suck this, I don't know what does.
There is no earthly reason to send #70 down and skate Mash. None. Nada. Zero.
#70 -- better skater, faster, can and does hit people, goes to the front of the net, vg defensively, can play C or wing. Similarly, there is no earthly reason to bring back #5 other than to say this is clearly a pissing contest between Q and Stan.
If it's another Q jedi mind trick, I think it's working.
Let's see:
Mash in on 3rd line. CHECK
Weise out. CHECK
Rasmussen sent down. CHECK
Bickell (ignore this move)
Rundblad recalled. CHECK
Somebody call the men in the white coats for me.
Q and company have lost their minds. - savvyone-1
Rasmussen might be desired by Dent for the Hogs playoffs. He can be called up in a second if the Hawks need him. Bickell obviously had nothing to show or no interest in making an efforts so good riddance.
I find it so hard to believe that (a) Stan and Q wouldn't talk about movement between Chicago and Rockford, or possible trades, or anything else that affects on-ice performance; (b) that Q would deliberately not play someone just to stick it to Stan; (c) that Stan would deliberately put skaters on the team that Q hates just to stick it to the coach.
Can these guys really be stupid enough to deliberately screw up a potential Cup championship team, just because of pique or ego or power struggle - these are not stupid men, they have each been successful in the sport, what they do is in full view of the public, the press, McD and Rocky, and (most important) us idiots on hockey blogs. - StLBravesFan
For as much as I joke about, I'm sure you're right. It would be very surprising if either of them did things purposely just to stick it to the other. However, I wonder if ego/stubbornness doesn't sometimes cloud their judgment. How else do you explain Stan resigning Runblad? Maybe he sees upsides in Runblad's game that aren't really there and he hasn't come around to admitting it to himself yet.
And Q isn't stupid, and that's the point. He's not stupid. He sees the games and he sees the stats. He has to know, via the eye test and the hard numbers, that the Hawks are a weaker team with Mashinter on the ice than they are without him. It's absolutely baffling. And scratching Panik for Mash is one thing, they play a different style of game. But keeping Mashinter over Rasmussen is beyond perplexing. Both are big bodies that can get physical and are players that clearly work very hard. Moose has more skill than Mashinter. There is nothing Mashinter gives this team that Moose can't/doesn't on top of more offensive upside than Mash has. Grasping at straws for an explanation for this nonsense and you end up with, well he must be sticking it to Stan
