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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
Why would we make our future captain in ROR an odd man out??? Why shift Eichel, just doesn't make sense to bring in Stamkos to disrupt the good that we have going.
- bobmack13


If we could grab Stamkos we would have an even better thing going
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:03 PM ET
If we could grab Stamkos we would have an even better thing going
- mattmoulson


This...

It's not like if we have ROR riding shotgun with Eichel or Stamkos that he will be less capable of being a good captain..

EDIT: Now if only someone would show Kane how to get all those shots to go past the goalie
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
Why would we make our future captain in ROR an odd man out??? Why shift Eichel, just doesn't make sense to bring in Stamkos to disrupt the good that we have going.
- bobmack13

disrupt a non playoff team, why would we make our team better. Save money by not having playoff tickets
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
If we could grab Stamkos we would have an even better thing going
- mattmoulson


At 11 million dollars a year the question isn't about a better or worse thing...it's definitely a better or best argument. 11 million on one player, who has been injury prone lately and playing out of position...can understand some opposition to the idea. I love the idea and say sign him and see what happens...but I'm a gambler. You should never trust thoughts on probability from a gambler.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
This...

It's not like if we have ROR riding shotgun with Eichel or Stamkos that he will be less capable of being a good captain..

EDIT: Now if only someone would show Kane how to get all those shots to go past the goalie

- feetontheair22


You mean the best place to shoot isnt into the goalies crest?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:08 PM ET
If it came down to a decision between Eichel, ROR, and Stamkos i think ROR goes to wing

Eichel was drafted to be our #1C for the next 15 years...moving him now just slows down his progress

Stamkos may or may not demand to stay at C if he were to come here...not worth upsetting

ROR just seems to be the odd man out...in a pinch (or when we really need a faceoff) he can shift back into C

- feetontheair22


SO you take the guy off the dot who wins 56% of faceoffs?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 11 @ 5:08 PM ET
Why would we make our future captain in ROR an odd man out??? Why shift Eichel, just doesn't make sense to bring in Stamkos to disrupt the good that we have going.
- bobmack13

Are we scoring too many goals or something?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 11 @ 5:09 PM ET
SO you take the guy off the dot who wins 56% of faceoffs?
- hubie

Evander Kane took a lot of faceoffs this year. He plays wing
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:09 PM ET
This...

It's not like if we have ROR riding shotgun with Eichel or Stamkos that he will be less capable of being a good captain..

EDIT: Now if only someone would show Kane how to get all those shots to go past the goalie

- feetontheair22


Step 1: Shoot the puck at the space below the crossbar and between the goalposts.

Once he gets that down then he can move on to the goalie part of the process.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:09 PM ET
Are we scoring too many goals or something?
- sbroads24

If you remove OV's 50 they still have more goals lol
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
Evander Kane took a lot of faceoffs this year. He plays wing
- sbroads24

where in the post did I quoted is Kane's name?

wait my bad i didnt reed correctly, but he took 62
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
Step 1: Shoot the puck at the space below the crossbar and between the goalposts.

Once he gets that down then he can move on to the goalie part of the process.

- JetpackJesus


this post is good
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Going back to The Player being a great show, I was pissed that it was cancelled and that we didn't get an ending
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "great" show, but it was entertaining, and some kind of wrap-up would've been nice.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
A tip of the cap to Eichel for his rookie season, but he's nowhere close to winning the Calder, let alone in the conversation.

McDavid, Panarin and Gostisbehere OR Gibson are your nominees, with Panarin winning the Calder.

Even Larkin is ahead of Eichel given what he did for Detroit making the playoffs. An argument could even be made for Domi to be ahead of Eichel given his numbers and having less of a supporting cast and in a much tougher division.

Eichel is like 6th or 7th down the list in a deep year for the Calder.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:25 PM ET
When my kid was like 4 or 5 he used to run around down in the basement with a plastic ball and little hockey stick yelling in his best RJ voice "MAXIM AFINOGENOV, MAXIM AFINOGENOV, MAXIM AFINOGENOV, MAXIM AFINOGENOV."

With that Avi, you'll always be ok by me.

- Der Kaiser

Sounds like a great kid!
Sadly I even have his baby blue atlanta jersey..
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yup it's stupid to consider Panarin a rookie but he will win it cuz thems the rules.

I agree with your 3 finalists.

- Iggysbff


The Calder isn't the "rookie of the year" award just like the Hart isn't the "best" player award. Like Pach's blog stated, the Calder is "to the player selected as the most proficient in his first year of competition in the National Hockey League (NHL)" No where does it say "rookie" in there, and this is Panarin's first year in the NHL. His 7 or whatever years of KHL experience have no relevance to anything involving the NHL.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
Step 1: Shoot the puck at the space below the crossbar and between the goalposts.

Once he gets that down then he can move on to the goalie part of the process.

- JetpackJesus


Ya, said another way, hit the damn net, unless you're playing it to go of the boards as a pass.

Edit: Although, he did play much better when he was on Eichels line with Samson.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
They're having fun right now with an article saying how the team isn't naming a captain (now would be an awfully weird time anyways...but Toronto media needed something I guess).

They're all saying how it means he's not on the team yet, and posting pics of Stamkos.

- stashu


They usually name the captains like a week before the season starts. That's how most teams do it. And since they shipped out their captain the Leafs will be without one until very close to next season.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Apr 11 @ 5:31 PM ET
Are we scoring too many goals or something?
- sbroads24


Not the point, 11+ mill for 6-7 years. You better make sure that he's not going to have any setbacks. The pro-Stamkos bandwagon assumes that missing a rib, and a blood clot issue is a non-issue.
I'm all about more goals, ect., but there has to be a smarter way.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 11 @ 5:32 PM ET
A tip of the cap to Eichel for his rookie season, but he's nowhere close to winning the Calder, let alone in the conversation.

McDavid, Panarin and Gostisbehere OR Gibson are your nominees, with Panarin winning the Calder.

Even Larkin is ahead of Eichel given what he did for Detroit making the playoffs. An argument could even be made for Domi to be ahead of Eichel given his numbers and having less of a supporting cast and in a much tougher division.

Eichel is like 6th or 7th down the list in a deep year for the Calder.

- As_I_See_It


Eyes roll.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:36 PM ET
A tip of the cap to Eichel for his rookie season, but he's nowhere close to winning the Calder, let alone in the conversation.

McDavid, Panarin and Gostisbehere OR Gibson are your nominees, with Panarin winning the Calder.

Even Larkin is ahead of Eichel given what he did for Detroit making the playoffs. An argument could even be made for Domi to be ahead of Eichel given his numbers and having less of a supporting cast and in a much tougher division.

Eichel is like 6th or 7th down the list in a deep year for the Calder.

- As_I_See_It

Where is Nylander on the list?

There are few people who may like domi as much as me ( my favorite player to watch in jrs.) but if you think they are on par with each other your crazy. Domi had 2 good months
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Apr 11 @ 5:42 PM ET
A tip of the cap to Eichel for his rookie season, but he's nowhere close to winning the Calder, let alone in the conversation.

McDavid, Panarin and Gostisbehere OR Gibson are your nominees, with Panarin winning the Calder.

Even Larkin is ahead of Eichel given what he did for Detroit making the playoffs. An argument could even be made for Domi to be ahead of Eichel given his numbers and having less of a supporting cast and in a much tougher division.

Eichel is like 6th or 7th down the list in a deep year for the Calder.

- As_I_See_It


Look at Eichel's last quarter of the season then look at the list of 2nd wingers he's played with. Do the same with Larkin and get back to us
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
McCormick won't play again because of blood clot issue.
- chilliard77


Not all blood clots are created equal. McCormick and Dupuis had DVT's which lead to PE's. Stamkos just had the one in his shoulder. McCormick and Dupuis and the other guy I can't think of off the top of my head all had life-threatening clots that could've broken off at anytime and went to the heart or brain and bam they're dead. Stamkos was able to wait a few days to have surgery that doesn't sound quite the same to me. Plus I don't think McCormick would've played any more than 10 games this year anyway even if he was 100% healthy.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 11 @ 5:50 PM ET
Look at Eichel's last quarter of the season then look at the list of 2nd wingers he's played with. Do the same with Larkin and get back to us
- turbo044


NO sense arguing with a Trana fan. They know all since they have all those cups regardless if Rod Stewarts Tonights the Night being #1 on the charts last time they won
Vanillaface
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

Apr 11 @ 5:53 PM ET
KHL should be considered a professional league since the quality of players there is higher than the A or other Euro leagues... it is not NHL level, but then neither was the World hockey assoc (WHA) and players from that league weren't allowed to win the calder either...
- kaptaan

I agree. Gretzky wasn't eligible to win the Calder because one year in the WHA.
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