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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 12 @ 7:46 PM ET
Nice to see Burrows getting the recognition he deserves.

I can understand the thinking of jettisoning the vets for younger players to speed up the rebuild but I would keep Burrows in a mentoring role for the younger players coming up. Guys a warrior. Hansen’s the same deal.

- bloatedmosquito


After all your nonsense about signing vets for large sums of salary and the team not going into full rebuild you are good with paying 4.5 mil to a biting, hair pulling diver who taunts people about being abused by their parents and racial slurs to mentor our kids. Why would I expect anything else from you?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 12 @ 7:50 PM ET
Fair enough, I'm resigned to keep Burrows if we don't need the spot or cash. He is definitely a classy guy who I have loved on the team. I also personally would like another top-5 next year. That being said, if JB wants Stamkos and Lucic he's got to go. No harm in signing UFA's IMO, especially young ones. Miracles aside, at least let him come into camp and fight for a roster spot.
- neem55



Burrows is known for good reason to be one of...if not the least classiest guy in the league.... unless we have another Burrows in the system????
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 12 @ 7:53 PM ET
Before everyone jumps off the port Mann don't forget to pay the toll! Lol seriously how about instead of thinking the sky is falling or whatever we just let the kid make his damn choice... He just lost a huge game for himself.. How about before people start writing him off or forming an opinion one way or the other we let the kid get over being knocked out of the froze four.. For all we know that "3 days" tweet from his dad is announcing his Signing Friday.. People just taking a damn breathe because of the whole vessey thing. So ridiculous
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Before everyone jumps off the port Mann don't forget to pay the toll! Lol seriously how about instead of thinking the sky is falling or whatever we just let the kid make his damn choice... He just lost a huge game for himself.. How about before people start writing him off or forming an opinion one way or the other we let the kid get over being knocked out of the froze four.. For all we know that "3 days" tweet from his dad is announcing his Signing Friday.. People just taking a damn breathe because of the whole vessey thing. So ridiculous
- MaWLz

I never seen anyone jumping from a bridge. I seen a few people questioning what people's thoughts are, and what is possibly going on. You're response is more dramatic than any of the posts that I seen on here today .
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 12 @ 7:57 PM ET
Burrows is known for good reason to be one of...if not the least classiest guy in the league.... unless we have another Burrows in the system????
- boonerbuck

He was a good team guy for us regardless of his antics. Burrows was a team player.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 12 @ 8:06 PM ET
I never seen anyone jumping from a bridge. I seen a few people questioning what people's thoughts are, and what is possibly going on. You're response is more dramatic than any of the posts that I seen on here today .
- VANTEL

Lol no dramatics at all. But when people are talking about trading a top prospects rights before he's even said anything how is that not dramatic? Just to name one
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:11 PM ET
Lol no dramatics at all. But when people are talking about trading a top prospects rights before he's even said anything how is that not dramatic? Just to name one
- MaWLz


Nashville probably wished they traded. As long a that loophole is there GMs have to be leery.

Just because someone brings up a topic or discusses top story of the day does not make them a pillow biter or bridge jumper
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:31 PM ET
did anyone post or anyone have a link for the TL hallway news conference?
- hillbillydeluxe

It's on canucks dot com, under future is bright I think. Found it
https://youtu.be/wKlkv5rLMh0

anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:31 PM ET
Freidmans 30 on 30 had some interesting Canuck stuff
- VANTEL

Care to share?
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:33 PM ET
He was a good team guy for us regardless of his antics. Burrows was a team player.
- thundachunk

Is a team player. He aint off this team yet
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:33 PM ET
Two things Vancouver has to be leery of are travel and taxes. Benning is not going to wait until year four like other GMs . I think if Demko hasn't signed by draft then Canucks may look at options. They are offering him a professional contract for next year, if he refuses then all bets are off.

Not 1040 info, and not panicking, just smart buisiness.

- VANTEL


Saw an article a few months back about tax rates in various NHL cities and Vancouver wasn't too bad. Not as good as Florida but better than other provinces and some US states.

Not much we can do about travel.

For a goalie, the key consideration is almost always the opportunity to play. Probably not many organizations out there would be a better option than Vancouver for Demko. He would probably have a pretty good chance at being the number one in Utica next year, offering him a similar development opportunity to what Markstrom did in 2014/15.

He wouldn't be rushed to the NHL before he's ready, and be forced to play behind a losing team. Such a situation could end his career prematurely.

Markstrom is the Canucks next number one guy and his next contract should be ending when Demko is more proven and in his prime. Demko is also a Canucks draft pick so he will probably see more of an investment made in him here than anywhere else he might sign as a free agent.

The career path is very similar to what Cory Schneider went through and is almost ideal if he's willing to be patient and become a legitimate NHL keeper with a long career.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:37 PM ET
Care to share?
- anavar



His opinion o bite to the story, he wondered if Benning and Talon could work together
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 12 @ 8:37 PM ET
Care to share?
- anavar

12. At Vancouver’s end-of-season media conference, Trevor Linden quashed rumours he’d look to bring another executive into the hockey department. Prior to that comment, I wondered if someone like Dale Tallon could be a fit. He did receive an extension in Florida but the Panthers are also undergoing a shift to more of an analytics-based approach. He’s had success building two teams, so it would come down to whether or not he and Jim Benning could work together. Benning might also appreciate never talking to a reporter again. Tallon was Vancouver’s first-ever draft pick. Maybe he’s still got a membership at Point Grey. Purely my opinion.

13. No problem with Benning admitting possible interest in Loui Eriksson. The Bruins might have a problem with it, however.

14. Drake Caggiula told Brad Schlossman of the Grand Forks Herald that a decision on his pro future could take up to a month. (Maybe he needs it after that wild-looking celebration on Monday.) North Dakota’s run to the NCAA title was a great thing for the school, its fans and players, but bad for the NHL teams who hoped to scoop Caggiula by getting him into a game and burning a contract year. That includes Edmonton, Ottawa and Vancouver. Now, some other clubs (like Chicago) can get back in the race. There was a ton of interest, with one exec saying “no doubt" 25 teams asked. Panarin’s bonuses will open up even more opportunity for talented young players on lower salaries to get an opportunity. Will Chicago also get 2014 first-rounder Nick Schmaltz to leave too?

15. Three guys who could be making quicker decisions: North Dakota defenceman Troy Stecher, who should close in the next few days. It’s believed Edmonton and Vancouver are the favourites. Quinnipiac goalie Michael Garteig has to make a choice too. Not as certain on teams, but I'm expecting interested parties to try to get something signed this week. In the OHL, Barrie’s Justin Scott is having a huge playoff with 13 goals in nine games. Undrafted after four junior seasons.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
I went to see game 2, he's a force out there for such a small dude.
- neem55


Was he as forceful as Jordan Schroeder? They've already got Baertschi for their top six so forget the small guys altogether. In my opinion those are wasted picks for the Canucks who'd be better to try for a home run on a higher-risk power forward than take an undersized player who will just end up being another career AHL'er.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:39 PM ET
So is everything that Canucks management does, people still need to talk and worry about things
- Bigalow

Do we need to worry for 13 years like the Flames fans?
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
I use to enjoy your posts. Too bad you've become one of these people^^^^

- boonerbuck

Mixing it up a bit. Trying to fit in. Sorry.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:43 PM ET
I'm going to sleep. Can't wait for tomorrow and the playoffs. Gotta get rested up... Not much sleep with games in the West starting at ten/ ten thirty eastern time...
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:54 PM ET
Burrows is known for good reason to be one of...if not the least classiest guy in the league.... unless we have another Burrows in the system????
- boonerbuck


People do tend to forget that when Burrows was a diving, hair-pulling, trash-talking alleged finger-biter, the term 'Agitator' was a legitimate NHL job. Like 'puck-moving defenceman', or 'enforcer', or 'face-off specialist'. Those roles have sort of morphed into one type of uni-player over the past few years so. (Probably making the league less interesting to watch.)

Burrows himself evolved into a reliable 5 on 5 offensive contributor, a premier penalty-killer, and a bit of a shootout specialist. For a few years he was easily one of the top 20 wingers in the league.

But because of the smear campaign the NHL did on him he'll never be remembered for those things or how he scratched and clawed his way to the NHL.

Thanks Ron McLean!

YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
Sadly I dont think any of those players you mention in combination with a 2nd rounder would get a mid-first. Maybe the second and Torts second would but a team would have to not care when they get that extra second, which is unlikely as a mid-range team. I would like to see JB try, but I think it would be a tough sell with the assets they have
- WhiteLie


You'd think that if he's only looking at moving up 10 spots or so from their second pick in a deep draft that he'd be able to make something work. I believe this is the year they need to be bold and try to do something along the lines of what Burke did with the Sedins. Trade a bunch of middling assets for something that will have a more significant impact.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
23. Favourite Alex Burrows story from Vancouver: during Mike Gillis’s first season, the Canucks went through a long losing streak and the knives were out for Alain Vigneault. Gillis didn’t want to do it, so they had meetings with every coach and player to figure out what was going on. Burrows was one of the few playing well at the time, so they told him he should be satisfied with his play. The response: “Satisfaction is the first step to regret.” Love that.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:01 PM ET
Nashville probably wished they traded. As long a that loophole is there GMs have to be leery.

Just because someone brings up a topic or discusses top story of the day does not make them a pillow biter or bridge jumper

- VANTEL


Unless you're Boston or Toronto and think you'd have a really good chance at signing the player, I doubt a potential college UFA would have much market value, and therefore such a limited a market would also hamper the returns.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Apr 12 @ 9:07 PM ET
12. At Vancouver’s end-of-season media conference, Trevor Linden quashed rumours he’d look to bring another executive into the hockey department. Prior to that comment, I wondered if someone like Dale Tallon could be a fit. He did receive an extension in Florida but the Panthers are also undergoing a shift to more of an analytics-based approach. He’s had success building two teams, so it would come down to whether or not he and Jim Benning could work together. Benning might also appreciate never talking to a reporter again. Tallon was Vancouver’s first-ever draft pick. Maybe he’s still got a membership at Point Grey. Purely my opinion.

13. No problem with Benning admitting possible interest in Loui Eriksson. The Bruins might have a problem with it, however.

14. Drake Caggiula told Brad Schlossman of the Grand Forks Herald that a decision on his pro future could take up to a month. (Maybe he needs it after that wild-looking celebration on Monday.) North Dakota’s run to the NCAA title was a great thing for the school, its fans and players, but bad for the NHL teams who hoped to scoop Caggiula by getting him into a game and burning a contract year. That includes Edmonton, Ottawa and Vancouver. Now, some other clubs (like Chicago) can get back in the race. There was a ton of interest, with one exec saying “no doubt" 25 teams asked. Panarin’s bonuses will open up even more opportunity for talented young players on lower salaries to get an opportunity. Will Chicago also get 2014 first-rounder Nick Schmaltz to leave too?

15. Three guys who could be making quicker decisions: North Dakota defenceman Troy Stecher, who should close in the next few days. It’s believed Edmonton and Vancouver are the favourites. Quinnipiac goalie Michael Garteig has to make a choice too. Not as certain on teams, but I'm expecting interested parties to try to get something signed this week. In the OHL, Barrie’s Justin Scott is having a huge playoff with 13 goals in nine games. Undrafted after four junior seasons.

- MaWLz

Thanks mawlz
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:07 PM ET
His opinion o bite to the story, he wondered if Benning and Talon could work together
- VANTEL

Tallon just signed a multi-year contract extension in January. Don't think they'd have done that if they were planning on moving on from the architect of their most successful team in years, or removing much of his autonomy to allow for a transition to more analytics-based decision making.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 12 @ 9:25 PM ET
People do tend to forget that when Burrows was a diving, hair-pulling, trash-talking alleged finger-biter, the term 'Agitator' was a legitimate NHL job. Like 'puck-moving defenceman', or 'enforcer', or 'face-off specialist'. Those roles have sort of morphed into one type of uni-player over the past few years so. (Probably making the league less interesting to watch.)

Burrows himself evolved into a reliable 5 on 5 offensive contributor, a premier penalty-killer, and a bit of a shootout specialist. For a few years he was easily one of the top 20 wingers in the league.

But because of the smear campaign the NHL did on him he'll never be remembered for those things or how he scratched and clawed his way to the NHL.

Thanks Ron McLean!

- YeOldTimer


Burrows is a good hockey player winding down his career. He's not on my radar for role model though and this is where I disagree with people.

His history about how he worked hard, followed his dream and beat the odds is nice. Not having him in the locker room doesn't change the inspirational story. The story isnt worth extra millions either. Seems our better vets get loads of scrutiny for not earning their pay checks regardless of earlier home discounts that most of the core did anyways.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 12 @ 9:29 PM ET
Mixing it up a bit. Trying to fit in. Sorry.
- YeOldTimer


I'm just yanking your chain. I was only a little surprised.
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