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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
whoops messed up the year
when you have
Carter Richards Gagne Giroux Knuble Hartnell Briere replaced with Giroux Raffl Read Voracek (sucks now) Couturier (can't score for his life) Schenn what are you going to do

- 2Real


Become a Sharks fan. Bye now.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:08 PM ET
whoops messed up the year
when you have
Carter Richards Gagne Giroux Knuble Hartnell Briere replaced with Giroux Raffl Read Voracek (sucks now) Couturier (can't score for his life) Schenn what are you going to do

- 2Real


I find myself asking this question often after reading your posts. Are you a Flyers fan? Honest question...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:09 PM ET
Neither does your way.

But on one hand Stamkos is a know quantity where picks and prospects and European FA's aren't.

For every Panarin there is a Jrir Dopita.

With Stamkos age he can be part of the plan for the now and future. He doesn't cost you picks and he fills a need.

I don't know why there is this set order of:

Draft, develop, once better sign FA.

- J35Bacher


I disagree about the "known quantity." Not related, but he has suffered significant injuries 2 of the last 3 years (well, for this year's playoff, anyway) and his goals (pro-rated) have gone down for 3 straight years, as have his points for 4 years. If he was continually putting up 50G/85 points, that's one thing. But he hasn't been.

He'll likely command the biggest contract in the league, and means you are paying your second line center $8M+. For me, I'd stay away.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:09 PM ET
scumbag flyers fans

complain about how scoring sucks

laugh/scoff at the thought of signing stamkos

- 2Real


LOL, such hatred.

Childish Flyers fan.

Flyers lose game.

Takes it out on people who disagree with him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
I find myself asking this question often after reading your posts. Are you a Flyers fan? Honest question...
- steelydan

uh yea been a fan and went to games all the time while growing up now I ask are you?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
Neither does your way.

But on one hand Stamkos is a know quantity where picks and prospects and European FA's aren't.

For every Panarin there is a Jrir Dopita.

With Stamkos age he can be part of the plan for the now and future. He doesn't cost you picks and he fills a need.

I don't know why there is this set order of:

Draft, develop, once better sign FA.

- J35Bacher

It's the money that turns me off. Does a 6mil and a 5mil forward make my team better than one 11mil guy?

I think it probably does.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
whoops messed up the year
when you have
Carter Richards Gagne Giroux Knuble Hartnell Briere replaced with Giroux Raffl Read Voracek (sucks now) Couturier (can't score for his life) Schenn what are you going to do

- 2Real


You start to actually make a good point, and then it just gets childish...have fun hating life.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
LOL, such hatred.

Childish Flyers fan.

Flyers lose game.

Takes it out on people who disagree with him.

- steelydan

wouldn't stamkos help tremendously with the flyers scoring woes? Yes/No?
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
uh yea been a fan and went to games all the time while growing up now I ask are you?
- 2Real


Yup. I am as well. Thanks for the clarification.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
I find myself asking this question often after reading your posts. Are you a Flyers fan? Honest question...
- steelydan


He's one of those guys who can only be happy when he's miserable, and misery loves company.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
You start to actually make a good point, and then it just gets childish...have fun hating life.
- jmatchett383

childish? so someone is childish when they produce a counter point to your argument?
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
wouldn't stamkos help tremendously with the flyers scoring woes? Yes/No?
- 2Real


Yes
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
Yes
- steelydan

there we go sign the best players
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:12 PM ET
wouldn't stamkos help tremendously with the flyers scoring woes? Yes/No?
- 2Real


Counter question: Could the Flyers, in lieu of entering cap hell, find two players that equal up Stamkos' production at a fraction of the cost? Yes/No (Good call on the formatting of Q/A. Really helps cut down on the BS).
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
I find myself asking this question often after reading your posts. Are you a Flyers fan? Honest question...
- steelydan

Yeah, he's a long time fan.

You need a malcontent in every bunch just to keep the conversation moving. If not him than nature will fill the vacuum with who knows what?

We should treasure our little malcontent for what he is.

By the way... Where's Joe?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
childish? so someone is childish when they produce a counter point to your argument?
- 2Real


About as childish as assuming someone is a liberal and using it as a derogatory term when they disagree with you about something non-political. Yes, you are a child, and you act like a petulant brat who only wants to make people miserable. You are a very bad, mean-spirited person, and I feel sorry for you.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
I disagree about the "known quantity." Not related, but he has suffered significant injuries 2 of the last 3 years (well, for this year's playoff, anyway) and his goals (pro-rated) have gone down for 3 straight years, as have his points for 4 years. If he was continually putting up 50G/85 points, that's one thing. But he hasn't been.

He'll likely command the biggest contract in the league, and means you are paying your second line center $8M+. For me, I'd stay away.

- jmatchett383



I would say he is a pretty consistent goal scorer. He is a player you still need to worry about on the PP and 5v5 when he has the puck.

Now I will say if it is in the 11-12 range I wouldn't go there. 10 and below I would make a play for him/
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
Counter question: Could the Flyers, in lieu of entering cap hell, find two players that equal up Stamkos' production at a fraction of the cost? Yes/No (Good call on the formatting of Q/A. Really helps cut down on the BS).
- steelydan

who are two players that will be a bigger threat than stamkos that we can sign for cheaper?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
About as childish as assuming someone is a liberal and using it as a derogatory term when they disagree with you about something non-political. Yes, you are a child, and you act like a petulant brat who only wants to make people miserable. You are a very bad, mean-spirited person, and I feel sorry for you.
- jmatchett383

you're the one constantly throwing out personal attack which is childish i'm talking about the flyers and how this team isn't as good as the 2008-09 team
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yeah, he's a long time fan.

You need a malcontent in every bunch just to keep the conversation moving. If not him than nature will fill the vacuum with who knows what?

We should treasure our little malcontent for what he is.

By the way... Where's Joe?

- mayorofangrytown

I think he mentioned champagne a few pages back. Hopefully he was responsible
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
I would say he is a pretty consistent goal scorer. He is a player you still need to worry about on the PP and 5v5 when he has the puck.

Now I will say if it is in the 11-12 range I wouldn't go there. 10 and below I would make a play for him/

- J35Bacher


He's a dynamic player and would be the best forward on the team. He would also give you a sniper. But I don't think you're getting him for $10M or lower.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
I think he mentioned champagne a few pages back. Hopefully he was responsible
- TobyFlenderson


Just best to ignore him, he's just miserable and wants to drag other along with him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
you're the one constantly throwing out personal attack which is childish i'm talking about the flyers and how this team isn't as good as the 2008-09 team
- 2Real


That's awesome.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
who are two players that will be a bigger threat than stamkos that we can sign for cheaper?
- 2Real


Aww, that's such a shame. You have no problem demanding a Y/N format, yet you refuse to play when it's turned around on you? That's OK. I don't really feel the need to manipulate sentences in my favor to have a discussion.

Sharp, Marchand, Oshie, Kane, Hornqvist are some of the few UFA's in 2017 and 2018.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Counter question: Could the Flyers, in lieu of entering cap hell, find two players that equal up Stamkos' production at a fraction of the cost? Yes/No (Good call on the formatting of Q/A. Really helps cut down on the BS).
- steelydan



I don't know.

Do they continue to produce after getting their money?

Also a lot of the UFA's are around the 28, 29 and above range. It's rare a 26 year old superstar hits FA.

I guess my thing is when talking free agency is that Stamkos isnt a must have. But when people say spend money on guys like Okposo or Lucic or Beodker I would rather then just pony up for the superstar if I spend money. If that makes sense. Also looking down the road I don't see player like Stamkos hitting the market. And future FA lists don't look promising.

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