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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:27 PM ET
schenn just saved a goal for the sharks would you guys take him back?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:29 PM ET
I had the Canadian telecast on my link and they mentioned some crazy stat to the effect that the Caps had lost 4 out of the last 6 playoffs series they had gone up 2-0 in.

So you're saying there's a chance? *prays*

- Yosimar89


I was watching the same feed when Healey starting to talk about how Mason had made a fantastic save and that he hadn't had a bad game in the last 14. 30 seconds later he gave up the long one.

Just want to point out. Without Mason's play of late, we're talking about the draft. The goal was horrible, but it happens. I just can't stand the thought of another 6 months of the Canadian media saying why doesn't Gm Clarke get a goalie. Sigh
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:30 PM ET
schenn just saved a goal for the sharks would you guys take him back?
- 2Real


I would. Trade Mason and Jake for him back and I'd even retain salary. We e got to start thinking short term here.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:31 PM ET
Do you start Neuvirth against his old team to shake things up?
- pharcyde

no
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:34 PM ET
no
- Giroux_Is_God


As much as I am angry about the performance, I said it before the series, if they don't get the pp sorted out, we'll lose in 4 or 5. Sad I was right
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:38 PM ET
I would. Trade Mason and Jake for him back and I'd even retain salary. We e got to start thinking short term here.
- Hextall271

he's a UFA
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 16 @ 11:48 PM ET
I would. Trade Mason and Jake for him back and I'd even retain salary. We e got to start thinking short term here.
- Hextall271




We could all be dead within the next couple years due to an alien invasion or something. Shouldn't plan for anything but short term.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:00 AM ET
lucic is a dumbass
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:01 AM ET
sharks score on their 5-3 that's how you get it done
ShayneHirter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: St.Catharines, ON, ON
Joined: 10.02.2006

Apr 17 @ 12:06 AM ET
I don't wanna say its over but..... its over
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 17 @ 12:58 AM ET
Do you start Neuvirth against his old team to shake things up?
- pharcyde

Nope. This is Mase's team and until they start scoring for him I don't take starts away from him.
lar6767
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.20.2013

Apr 17 @ 1:12 AM ET
Neuvirth has been better than Mason all year and is really the reason they're in the playoffs. Sure, Mason had to play down the stretch but they would have made it if Neuvirth was available too. He's similar to how Hextall was in a way. He sometimes makes amazing saves so everyone thinks he's great but he has a high GAA and if you want to win with him you'd better be able to score 4 or 5 a night because he's not stealing you many 1-0 or 2-1 wins.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 1:23 AM ET
oh look vinny scores for the kings
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 1:26 AM ET
oh look a team wins 2 games on the road
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 1:42 AM ET
Are other PK units in the playoffs as passive as the Flyers? I hate seeing guys stand around watching the puck get tossed around the ice. Washington doesn't stop pressuring when it's their turn. Special teams is the difference right now. Holtby is playing well, but outside of the first period tonight, he's not had to make the same kind of saves that Mason has.

I was never a huge Richards fan, but I gotta say, seeing him and Ovechkin sitting next to each other on the bench, Ovechkin patting him on the back, it made me a bit uncomfortable. Just never thought we'd see that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 17 @ 1:50 AM ET

- Landsbergfan


Say whatever you want about Bryzgalov but he's never deflated a team like that
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 17 @ 2:09 AM ET
Say whatever you want about Bryzgalov but he's never deflated a team like that
- SuperSchennBros


Really? I like the guy, but he had awful body language for a goalie. Every goal he let in was confidence sapping for the guys in front of him. He had a knack for getting deflated and then deflating his teammates with his attitude.

Won't defend Mase's terrible goal against, but let's not ignore he regrouped and made some great saves to keep them in the game up until the waning minutes. Whatever deflation occurred, he and the team got inflated again pretty darn quickly. That's some mettle.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 17 @ 2:43 AM ET
I'm not frustrated -- this is part of the process. It always has been.

Reading some of the typical comments...it's Negadelphia at its finest. No perspective, no desire to have any.

This Washington team is the President's Trophy winner. The best team in the sport and have been all year. They have been building to this team, this moment.

Building from what? A first-round loss in 2012-13. Missing the playoffs in 2013-14. A second-round loss last year. To this year, a team that is loaded for bear and could very well win the Cup.

Does no one else see how comparable the Flyers trajectory is to what the Capitals are now, with a little patience and luck?

Two years ago -- just two years ago -- Alex Ovechkin was a team cancer, was worst in the league in plus-minus, should be stripped of his captaincy. Adam Oates got fired, George McPhee got the boot -- after trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat.

I know I won't change the mind of a single hater. But this Flyers team isn't the best version of what this franchise is going to be in two years. It's just not. They are learning some good, tough lessons, the kind you have to learn -- think Nick Cousins won't have his head on a swivel now, coming through the neutral zone in the playoffs?

Those of us who have watched hockey or sports know it's true -- sometimes, you aren't quite set to face a powerful team and you get your asses kicked.

But it can turn so freaking quickly, it can make your head spin. And the Flyers have a few prospects, a little cap room, and players on the right side of 30

Their time is coming
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 3:02 AM ET
I'm not frustrated -- this is part of the process. It always has been.

Reading some of the typical comments...it's Negadelphia at its finest. No perspective, no desire to have any.

This Washington team is the President's Trophy winner. The best team in the sport and have been all year. They have been building to this team, this moment.

Building from what? A first-round loss in 2012-13. Missing the playoffs in 2013-14. A second-round loss last year. To this year, a team that is loaded for bear and could very well win the Cup.

Does no one else see how comparable the Flyers trajectory is to what the Capitals are now, with a little patience and luck?

Two years ago -- just two years ago -- Alex Ovechkin was a team cancer, was worst in the league in plus-minus, should be stripped of his captaincy. Adam Oates got fired, George McPhee got the boot -- after trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat.

I know I won't change the mind of a single hater. But this Flyers team isn't the best version of what this franchise is going to be in two years. It's just not. They are learning some good, tough lessons, the kind you have to learn -- think Nick Cousins won't have his head on a swivel now, coming through the neutral zone in the playoffs?

Those of us who have watched hockey or sports know it's true -- sometimes, you aren't quite set to face a powerful team and you get your asses kicked.

But it can turn so freaking quickly, it can make your head spin. And the Flyers have a few prospects, a little cap room, and players on the right side of 30

Their time is coming

- AllInForFlyers

um we didn't make the playoffs last year
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 17 @ 3:55 AM ET
um we didn't make the playoffs last year
- 2Real


If that's all you took from that, no worries

It's just hockey. YMMV
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 17 @ 4:06 AM ET
If that's all you took from that, no worries

It's just hockey. YMMV

- AllInForFlyers

how are we going to get players to make this team better?
Williamc5468
Joined: 11.20.2015

Apr 17 @ 4:27 AM ET
I've been saying it all year Giroux is the most over-rated player in the league. People on these boards have been bashing me about it and defending him. He isn't a superstar but sure gets paid like one. Never won anything individually or as a team. Non-exists in 5 on 5, never has scored 30 goals in a season & provides no leadership. Left off team Canada this year, gee I wonder why?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 17 @ 5:38 AM ET
how are we going to get players to make this team better?
- 2Real


We aren't.

It's gonna be the same team, doing the same things, for the rest of time.

Feel better?

Because I am not going to argue with you about it -- you are entitled to your view, whether it's positive or negative. But the one thing I haven't done on the boards is argue of late, and that isn't changing now
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 17 @ 6:03 AM ET
I've been saying it all year Giroux is the most over-rated player in the league. People on these boards have been bashing me about it and defending him. He isn't a superstar but sure gets paid like one. Never won anything individually or as a team. Non-exists in 5 on 5, never has scored 30 goals in a season & provides no leadership. Left off team Canada this year, gee I wonder why?
- Williamc5468


I now understand why some parents put locks on the outside of closet doors.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 7:18 AM ET
oh look vinny scores for the kings
- 2Real


We need Vinny and LSchenn back asap!
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