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sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 18 @ 3:01 PM ET
wow -- I guess they should keep the reviews, or get better refs
- etchtech


I can see missing a call if you are jumping or whatever but 37%

I will try and find the link
etchtech
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.30.2015

Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
Holy Mackrel.


That's outrageous. I do not believe this should be reviewable.

I read elsewhere an idea I like - if you challenge and lose the challenge its a 2 minute delay of game penalty.

- bcallaway

that's not bad. the league does want more scoring. separate topic, what about making the minor penalties like the major penalties? By that I mean, the team that committed the penalty remains shorthanded for the entire 2 minutes even if the team on the power play scores
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
https://www.yahoo.com/spo...s-must-die-152539096.html

it is towards the end of the article
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 18 @ 3:04 PM ET
that's not bad. the league does want more scoring. separate topic, what about making the minor penalties like the major penalties? By that I mean, the team that committed the penalty remains shorthanded for the entire 2 minutes even if the team on the power play scores
- etchtech


I see what you are doing there but that would cause too much confusion for the casual fan and the NHL is all about the casual fan
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Apr 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
that's not bad. the league does want more scoring. separate topic, what about making the minor penalties like the major penalties? By that I mean, the team that committed the penalty remains shorthanded for the entire 2 minutes even if the team on the power play scores
- etchtech


That's a possibility.

What do you think about not allowing the shorthanded team to ice the puck on penalties?

I've always wanted to see that one experimented with.

sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 18 @ 3:10 PM ET
That's a possibility.

What do you think about not allowing the shorthanded team to ice the puck on penalties?

I've always wanted to see that one experimented with.

- bcallaway


You have to let them ice the puck otherwise they are hemmed in the zone and might not get a change leading to more injuries IMO
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
Funny you should ask

I just read something on this

Off-sides was reviewed 99 times this season

62 upheld and 37 ruled no goal

So based only on the Video Replays they get it wrong 37% of the time

- sycsam


That's convenient math as we like to say
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Apr 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
You have to let them ice the puck otherwise they are hemmed in the zone and might not get a change leading to more injuries IMO
- sycsam


Sissy.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 18 @ 3:26 PM ET
Sissy.
- bcallaway


We are fans of a team that takes a lot of penalties and gets injured a lot do we really want a top line of Paajarvi Brodziak Jaskin?
etchtech
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.30.2015

Apr 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
We are fans of a team that takes a lot of penalties and gets injured a lot do we really want a top line of Paajarvi Brodziak Jaskin?
- sycsam

As a Hawks fan, I say Yes
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-offside-coach-s-challenges-must-die-152539096.html

it is towards the end of the article

- sycsam

How many were overturned without concrete evidence because it is impossible to pinpoint exactly where the puck is due to the angle, puck off the ice, and depth of the puck between the player and the boards.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
As a Hawks fan, I say Yes
- etchtech

RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Apr 18 @ 3:39 PM ET
I will say it was very nice sitting on my balcony two blocks from UC watching all the hawks fans go home disappointed.
- sycsam


Similar story:
My wife and I live outside of Orlando. After the game yesterday, we took a walk to enjoy the great weather around Disney's Boardwalk where the ESPN Club resides. As we passed, there were still crowds of Hawk fans sitting in the open air part of the restaurant. My wife, who has no shame when it comes to the Blues, yelled "let's go Blues," and the collective grown heard from inside was music to our ears.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
Similar story:
My wife and I live outside of Orlando. After the game yesterday, we took a walk to enjoy the great weather around Disney's Boardwalk where the ESPN Club resides. As we passed, there were still crowds of Hawk fans sitting in the open air part of the restaurant. My wife, who has no shame when it comes to the Blues, yelled "let's go Blues," and the collective grown heard from inside was music to our ears.

- RobShouts

Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Apr 18 @ 4:05 PM ET
What if the rule became: If an offside is challenged, the player who was offside must be a minimum distance offside to win the challenge. Essentially something like 6 inches past the blue line.

This would allow us to rectify Duchene's blatant offside and at the same time crack down on the number of challenges made. The players won't start playing to go over the line by 6 inches because the refs will still be calling the offside as normal.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Apr 18 @ 4:16 PM ET
Funny you should ask

I just read something on this

Off-sides was reviewed 99 times this season

62 upheld and 37 ruled no goal

So based only on the Video Replays they get it wrong 37% of the time

- sycsam


37/99 challenges overturned the call.
37/100 000 000 000, zone entries proven to have been called incorrect on the season.

Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
37/99 challenges overturned the call.
37/100 000 000 000, zone entries proven to have been called incorrect on the season.


- Blue Clam


Hence the convenient math comment, lol.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
So the future is panoramic cameras inside the ice looking up (goal lines and blue lines)?
- Jason Millen


My initial reaction is read the rule literally. It doesn't matter if the skate is touching or not. It's where the back skate is, either in the air or on the ice.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 5:05 PM ET
37/99 challenges overturned the call.
37/100 000 000 000, zone entries proven to have been called incorrect on the season.


- Blue Clam

You do realize that they miss all kinds of offside calls where they blow the play dead when it really isn't offside? Or when they miss the call but a goal isn't scored?

These are not review-able.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
37/99 challenges overturned the call.
37/100 000 000 000, zone entries proven to have been called incorrect on the season.


- Blue Clam

The fact that they had 99 reviews when it can only be reviewed on a play that had a goal scored right after is amazing actually.

That is a lot. I didn't expect anything near that many chances when I heard they were starting to review. Let alone 37 goals called back because they were really offside. (and by really offside, I mean maybe offside)

Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Apr 18 @ 6:02 PM ET



Guru's been banned unitl May 16.

Commenting on Paul Stewart's blog.

I guess he didn't heed my warning.

Fizbo is heading to the scene now for complete coverage.....

- bcallaway


Those refs are tricksy. Bring down the ban hammer and delete all posts (evidence).
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
This gif made me chuckle and then I felt shame. Poor Steve Mason.

https://twitter.com/Hocke...status/722171959426084864
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
The fact that they had 99 reviews when it can only be reviewed on a play that had a goal scored right after is amazing actually.

That is a lot. I didn't expect anything near that many chances when I heard they were starting to review. Let alone 37 goals called back because they were really offside. (and by really offside, I mean maybe offside)


- carcus

From the time I first heard about the rule change this year I thought the off side challenge was a cheap way to negate a goal. The goalie interference I can see because you're talking about an actual play on which a goal was scored, but a player going slightly off side has no bearing on weather or not the goal would have been scored.

I was glad to see that the Blues, as far I can recall, have not used the off side challenge this year and if the roles were reversed, I would definitely consider that a cheap win.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
From the time I first heard about the rule change this year I thought the off side challenge was a cheap way to negate a goal. The goalie interference I can see because you're talking about an actual play on which a goal was scored, but a player going slightly off side has no bearing on weather or not the goal would have been scored.

I was glad to see that the Blues, as far I can recall, have not used the off side challenge this year and if the roles were reversed, I would definitely consider that a cheap win.

- fattyboubatty

I thought we had one where we challenged and it was overturned.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Apr 18 @ 6:41 PM ET
You do realize that they miss all kinds of offside calls where they blow the play dead when it really isn't offside? Or when they miss the call but a goal isn't scored?

These are not review-able.

- carcus


That's why I phrased it the way I did.
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