It's kind of funny that everyone talks about drafting and development as the only way to build a cup winner yet the past 6 cup winners have added major pieces via trade or free agency.
- golfingsince

Every contender needs

Number 1 C (two-way or offensive juggernaut)
Number 1 D (all purpose)
Hot Goalie

Don't have that, you don't win.

It's kind of funny that everyone talks about drafting and development as the only way to build a cup winner yet the past 6 cup winners have added major pieces via trade or free agency.
- golfingsince

Well it comes down to scouting - all 3 avenues, just scouting at different levels of hockey

When your team sucks at drafting obviously the junior scouting needs work

When your team has trouble identifying good pro talent at the NHL level and overpays players, then your pro scouts have failed to adequately assess the free agent/trade target's value

I was pretty anti-tank, still kinda am (losing on purpose is gutless), but having good amateur scouts and a good draft helps a lot. The Leafs org has not had any decent young prospects for a long long time. In the Burke era they were so devoid of talent. They kept drafting "character" - aka plugs like Tyler Biggs, etc with 1st rounders. Then they kept trying to sign a bunch of college kids, all sucked except for Bozak. (See Hanson, Irwin, etc). Euro scouting sucked too - Freaking Niklas Wallin.

Getting guys like Hunter helps the org a lot.

we are bathed in glory
- DoubleDown

he has info we don't have bro don't you worry we're in good hands

Bell Media just announced he's been fired
- stinger67

Any of you guys live in Chateauguay ?

Débat à 91.9 avec un dude qui s'appelle lui-même le "Pere Noel du Poker" sur le fait si c'est correct ou pas traiter un gars de "someone who is attracted to the opposite sex" sur la glace.

Hey boy...

Well it comes down to scouting - all 3 avenues, just scouting at different levels of hockey

When your team sucks at drafting obviously the junior scouting needs work

When your team has trouble identifying good pro talent at the NHL level and overpays players, then your pro scouts have failed to adequately assess the free agent/trade target's value

I was pretty anti-tank, still kinda am (losing on purpose is gutless), but having good amateur scouts and a good draft helps a lot. The Leafs org has not had any decent young prospects for a long long time. In the Burke era they were so devoid of talent. They kept drafting "character" - aka plugs like Tyler Biggs, etc with 1st rounders. Then they kept trying to sign a bunch of college kids, all sucked except for Bozak. (See Hanson, Irwin, etc). Euro scouting sucked too - Freaking Niklas Wallin.

Getting guys like Hunter helps the org a lot.
- twiztedmike

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it

Every contender needs

Number 1 C (two-way or offensive juggernaut)
Number 1 D (all purpose)
Hot Goalie

Don't have that, you don't win.
- AdamFrench

Pretty much. You at least need one of the top 2 and #3, plus a bunch of depth.

Any of you guys live in Chateauguay ?
- golfingsince

Fred, he moved in with Carla

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

Fred, he moved in with Carla
- Symba007

I'd be cautious about playdates at the Teale's.

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

lol.

well done.

Fred, he moved in with Carla
- Symba007

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

Well it comes down to scouting - all 3 avenues, just scouting at different levels of hockey

When your team sucks at drafting obviously the junior scouting needs work

When your team has trouble identifying good pro talent at the NHL level and overpays players, then your pro scouts have failed to adequately assess the free agent/trade target's value

I was pretty anti-tank, still kinda am (losing on purpose is gutless), but having good amateur scouts and a good draft helps a lot. The Leafs org has not had any decent young prospects for a long long time. In the Burke era they were so devoid of talent. They kept drafting "character" - aka plugs like Tyler Biggs, etc with 1st rounders. Then they kept trying to sign a bunch of college kids, all sucked except for Bozak. (See Hanson, Irwin, etc). Euro scouting sucked too - Freaking Niklas Wallin.

Getting guys like Hunter helps the org a lot.
- twiztedmike

i think there's a difference between tanking (Buffalo last year, trading any goalie who dared to win a game) and looking at your roster and saying "these guys are (frank)ing terrible and i hate them and i want them gone", which is what Toronto did.

i think there's a difference between tanking (Buffalo last year, trading any goalie who dared to win a game) and looking at your roster and saying "these guys are (frank)ing terrible and i hate them and i want them gone", which is what Toronto did.
- DoubleDown

either way it's a shame for the folks in Butt (frank), SK.

i think there's a difference between tanking (Buffalo last year, trading any goalie who dared to win a game) and looking at your roster and saying "these guys are (frank)ing terrible and i hate them and i want them gone", which is what Toronto did.
- DoubleDown

yeah I don't think Toronto tanked. they had a poopty roster and they moved some guys for viable assets.

Buffalo panicked last year and started giving guys away each time they won a game or two

yeah I don't think Toronto tanked. they had a poopty roster and they moved some guys for viable assets.

Buffalo panicked last year and started giving guys away each time they won a game or two
- dt99999

so what Adam said. Thanks.

so what Adam said. Thanks.
- Fountain-San

I guess I should have read his post more carefully instead of just skimming it but in essence yes.

also you're fat.

so what Adam said. Thanks.
- Fountain-San

Geoff has been disqualified.

yeah I don't think Toronto tanked. they had a poopty roster and they moved some guys for viable assets.

Buffalo panicked last year and started giving guys away each time they won a game or two
- dt99999

At least they gave Ted Nolan a chance......

At least they gave Ted Nolan a chance......
- golfingsince

ugh... forgot about that guy

Geoff has been disqualified.
- dt99999

i would love for the Habs to hire James Tanner

i would love for the Habs to hire James Tanner
- DoubleDown

i would love for the Habs to fold