Wow. Ok.

I'll just put that on the shelf and let it breath..........
- bcallaway

That call in the final minutes? The Blues cross check in both crease all game long. Officiating has been bad both ways. It is really declining but the decline has been more in the vain of "let em play" so where does that call fit?

That said, the Blues know the Hawks are frustrated and are staying composed. Looks like they have learned from the past. They deserve credit for it. The whole Shaw and Crow episodes give officials the sense the Hawks are the ones playing out of control.

That call in the final minutes? The Blues cross check in both crease all game long. Officiating has been bad both ways. It is really declining but the decline has been more in the vain of "let em play" so where does that call fit?

That said, the Blues know the Hawks are frustrated and are staying composed. Looks like they have learned from the past. They deserve credit for it. The whole Shaw and Crow episodes give officials the sense the Hawks are the ones playing out of control.
- tredbrta

Officiating has been bad. On this we agree.

After the Corey Crawford melt down that somehow morphed into a Blackhawk power play the officials, lets just say, had a lot of "correcting" to do.

Shaw is one of those fellows that's only doing his job if he's making himself a butt-hole. If I'm in stripes, I look the other way from time to time when he gets the occasional stick to the nards on a face off too.

It'd be like me complaining if Steve Ott were being abused.....

It is amazing how many different instances there were last night of visual frustration from a number of players. Very uncharacteristic.

Better?
- usmcaaron

yeah.

just did not want you to get the boot.

That call in the final minutes? The Blues cross check in both crease all game long. Officiating has been bad both ways. It is really declining but the decline has been more in the vain of "let em play" so where does that call fit?

That said, the Blues know the Hawks are frustrated and are staying composed. Looks like they have learned from the past. They deserve credit for it. The whole Shaw and Crow episodes give officials the sense the Hawks are the ones playing out of control.
- tredbrta

I got to break th news to you: if you ever played hockey then you know all the way upnto even beer leagues when you near the paint you get cross checked by the dmen. Sometimes you can give some back. But there has always been a palpable line to not cross. That line tends to be a certain force from a cross check, which is the rarest and then the gone awry jackhammer where you get two maybe three shots in short succession without getting called but that fourth usually is considered over the top.

Shaw just got unlucky and caught JayBo in a vulnerable spot after a whistle where JayBo nearly kissed the pipes. That was probably enough to be considered crossing the line.


But honestly I have been watching it both ways. You could almost make the same call against the other team as any of the calls being made. Who knows exactly why one thing warrants a call and another does not. I have seen Steen look like he is sculpting marble out there with all his stick work and I have seen Toews do the same.

Anyone wondering how the 2014 Hawks series would have turned out with Elliott in net instead of Miller?
- Jason Millen

I wondered in series when Miller was looking bad.

That call in the final minutes? The Blues cross check in both crease all game long. Officiating has been bad both ways. It is really declining but the decline has been more in the vain of "let em play" so where does that call fit?

That said, the Blues know the Hawks are frustrated and are staying composed. Looks like they have learned from the past. They deserve credit for it. The whole Shaw and Crow episodes give officials the sense the Hawks are the ones playing out of control.
- tredbrta

Hawks spent the entire game crosschecking and interfering as well. Both teams got away with it until Shaw hit a player in the back away from the play into the goal posts. It shouldn't surprise you that throwing someone head first into a metal post draws a penalty when minor crosschecks do not.

Hawks got the favorable end of the worst call in a long time. They got away with multiple high sticks where players got cut. Both teams got away with crosschecks, running the goalie, interference, etc.

He is adorable, isn't he?

Everyone thought it would be the Blues that couldn't keep their cool. And that was the safe bet based on history.

Seems to me that some have a really tough time losing, especially because of the opponent.

This rivalry makes me happy.
- carcus

Losing sucks. Winning is better. The rivalry is great. Blues are the better team.

Petro is playing good considering he is most certainly playing through some form of injury. He never used to balk so greatly at getting hit.

So, we've got Flyers, Flames, Leafs, and Red Wings fans rooting for the Blues. These are crazy times.
- eggsegan

Yup! Strange days indeed.

A huge positive I see from last night is that the team came together and won. No bullpoop retaliation penalties, no folding in the face of adversity.

Probably not that different since the entire team was injured.
- .....

And we got no timely goals.

Petro is playing good considering he is most certainly playing through some form of injury. He never used to balk so greatly at getting hit.
- BluemanGuruu

He is good defensively, but man he is terrible with the puck in the O zone.

I would be interested in a hawks fan perspective on shaw.

Suspension or just a hefty fine?
- sycsam

So far, most Hawks fan I've seen are behind Shaw on this one, saying if someone can't handle name calling, they shouldn't be playing or watching hockey. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Also, as far as Crawford is concerned, I saw two instances where a call was blown in that situation. During Crawford's tirade, he hit the linesman in the face. Accident or not (though it didn't look like an accident), the rulebook clearly states that's a major, or if the ref feels inclined, a match penalty. Instead the linesman did nothing, patting Crawford on the back after pulling him off Fabbri. If that's not obvious bias, I don't know what is.

Wow. Ok.

I'll just put that on the shelf and let it breath..........
- bcallaway

Yeah the hawks fans "anger" with officiating is hysterical.

So far, most Hawks fan I've seen are behind Shaw on this one, saying if someone can't handle name calling, they shouldn't be playing or watching hockey. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Also, as far as Crawford is concerned, I saw two instances where a call was blown in that situation. During Crawford's tirade, he hit the linesman in the face. Accident or not (though it didn't look like an accident), the rulebook clearly states that's a major, or if the ref feels inclined, a match penalty. Instead the linesman did nothing, patting Crawford on the back after pulling him off Fabbri. If that's not obvious bias, I don't know what is.
- RobShouts

Same thing happened at the end of the game Panarin was trying to hit Brouwer and smoked the linesman.

Actually once Crawford swung his blocked at Fabbri he was done if you follow the rule book.

But in the end who cares? The refs are trying to be good and allow an outlet for frustration which is commendable. All the same I will be happy if the Blues win because no one can say it was given to them.

Crawford should have gotten Five for fighting and a match penalty for punching with his blocker

That should have been the extent of that

Fabbri tried to miss him and Toews shoved him in to Crawford

That has been my biggest issue and maybe Jammer or another goalie can help me out

But why is the goalie ticked at the guy that is pushed in to him and not ticked at his own player for pushing him in to the tender?
- sycsam

Because he cannot see behind Fabbri. He got emotional and lost his cool. There was the play where Schwartz got him and I thought it should have been called. When you become defensive you lose some level of your rationality.

Yeah the hawks fans "anger" with officiating is hysterical.
- Gerk

I do not get it. The series should be over.

But I know over the last three years I have maybe turned a blind eye to what some players were doing and harped on what the other team got away with. Since at least this year I have tried to notice when I see a Blues player get away with a noncall. Plus ever since that damn informal logic class I am trying to ferret out my confirmation bias. So after my initial emotional reaction to some things I am asking myself if I am seeing and hearing what I want to see and hear. You catch yourself trying to make something real that isn't.

Jammer in an overtime said to watch a play where it looked like Tarasenko was pulled down on a semi brek and then thenother team went the other way and scored. I looked at it again, though I did not admit it at the time, and sure enough Jammer was right, Tarasenko had lost his balance and was not interfered with.

Shaw has appologized and the Hawks made this statement.

"
“We are extremely disappointed in Andrew Shaw's actions last night. His comments do not reflect what we stand for as an organization. We are proud to have an inclusive and respectful environment, and to support various initiatives such as the You Can Play Project and the Chicago Gay Hockey Association. We will use this opportunity to further educate our players and organization moving forward, so that we all may learn from it."

So if thatnis what you believe and the hot air of your words are soon gone what action do you have to offer to show that deeds meet your words?

Cleary in this case the Hawks should say as a consequence in a huge game to show our support is real Shaw will miss the game or is going to commit to a hundred or more hours working for some LGBT charity over the summer.

Words are wind.

“We are extremely disappointed in Andrew Shaw's actions last night. His comments do not reflect what we stand for as an organization. We are proud to have an inclusive and respectful environment, and to support various initiatives such as the You Can Play Project and the Chicago Gay Hockey Association. We will use this opportunity to further educate our players and organization moving forward, so that we all may learn from it."
- BluemanGuruu

If you think you're having a bad day at work.

Some poor front office schmuck was tasked this morning with drafting an official apology statement.


Who knew there was a Chicago Gay Hockey Association? Show of hands, please.......

If you think you're having a bad day at work.

Some poor front office schmuck was tasked this morning with drafting an official apology statement.


Who knew there was a Chicago Gay Hockey Association? Show of hands, please.......
- bcallaway

I did.

Chicago has a well established LGBT community coming out of Boystown which is the area around Wriggely field.

Actually what he said is not funny and is extremely hurtful to some people.

Shocking as it might be other words he could have used that today are considered hate speech tend have consequences.

But the real problem I was just going to comment on is the NHL is still investigating this. Campbell is such an idiot he cannot figure out what he said? Or is trying to bide time and figure out how to get out of doing something he probably is against. That guy needs to be fired. Might help with the concussion lawsuits as well knowing that idiot is fired.

And Coach Q spent nearly his entire post game presser complaining about the officials & their lack of consistency.

Has he been watching the games or what???
- usmcaaron

Yeah I really enjoyed listening to him complain about the officials. I was thinking wow, did you watch the game? After Shaw's treatment of the officials ontop of a few punches from Hawks landing on linesmen, and there is Q piling it on

You know that will go over well.

NHL saying they are investigating is a way to buy time to suspend him for a regular season game next year, not a playoff game this year. My guess.

Pains me to say this.... well deserved win by the Blues. Capitalizing on turnovers, staying focused and good back/fore checking will lead to wins. The Blues did, and have been doing, all those things better this series.
- GrimReeper

This is a classy gesture.

NHL saying they are investigating is a way to buy time to suspend him for a regular season game next year, not a playoff game this year. My guess.
- Antilles

Read Puck Daddy article that talks anout Campbell dealing with this same thing in 2011 and he basically said no one heard him say it so we cannot do anything.

Read Puck Daddy article that talks anout Campbell dealing with this same thing in 2011 and he basically said no one heard him say it so we cannot do anything.
- BluemanGuruu

There is an official inside the penalty box with him... if he couldn't hear what was being said, fire him.

I wondered in series when Miller was looking bad.
- BluemanGuruu

Let's just say I was strongly suggesting he should have been replaced more than once in that series.