Word, the thought just crossed my mind and I watched Tampa do away with Detroit last night. But again Tampa also has very good goaltending and other strengths.
- Buffalo--Sabres

The Bishop for Cory Conacher trade....



Ottawa must still hate themselves for that.

The Bishop for Cory Conacher trade....



Ottawa must still hate themselves for that.
- Sabre_Tooth

I know right?

What does Risto get? What do Samson, and Eichel's deals look like??? I worry now.
- bobmack13

right now risto, eichel and reinhart are not even fringe all star players

no reason to worry yet

What does Risto get? What do Samson, and Eichel's deals look like??? I worry now.
- bobmack13

Risto will get paid this offseason, but it will be good to get him locked up. I am hoping to just pay the man now and avoid signing him again when caps go up and player salaries are higher. Eichel and Samson are a couple years away and IMO that you don't preplan for contracts 2 years away if are RFA. If they were both UFA, I'd be worried too...

We have their rights, they aren't 50 goal scorers and we have the cap space to lock them up. By then Gio, Gorges and Franson are gone...Moulson in his last year.

8 years at 8.5 is different from 7 at 11
- homiedclown

he didn't ask about 11M he asked about 10M.

11 million is about 15% of your salary cap on a single player, and together with ROR, you're at 25%. That puts some real ropes around us once the youngins come off their ELCs and enter their prime years.

right now risto, eichel and reinhart are not even fringe all star players

no reason to worry yet
- homiedclown

They are are future going forward. I don't think that Stamkos is an end all to the promised land. 1 top flight winger, 1 offensive d-man, and we're golden.

he didn't ask about 11M he asked about 10M.

11 million is about 15% of your salary cap on a single player, and together with ROR, you're at 25%. That puts some real ropes around us once the youngins come off their ELCs and enter their prime years.
- Der Kaiser

cap will go up

moulson, gionta, franson, gorges etc will be off the books


again, as of now we are not paying all stars when their elc expires

he didn't ask about 11M he asked about 10M.

11 million is about 15% of your salary cap on a single player, and together with ROR, you're at 25%. That puts some real ropes around us once the youngins come off their ELCs and enter their prime years.
- Der Kaiser

This is a good post

cap will go up

moulson, gionta, franson, gorges etc will be off the books


again, as of now we are not paying all stars when their elc expires
- homiedclown

I used a $77 Million cap, which is up. People going off the books will not affect the percentages - whoever is on the books will only have 75% of the cap available for their comp.

And we can't really say Eichel Risto and Reinhart are going to be great when we want them to lead us to the playoffs and cup, but that they aren't going to be great when we're budgeting for their salary caps.

My point is this - I think Stamkos can get us a cup. I don't think Stamkos can be part of a dynasty. (I don't mind a cup first.)

They are are future going forward. I don't think that Stamkos is an end all to the promised land. 1 top flight winger, 1 offensive d-man, and we're golden.
- bobmack13

stamkos is one of the top 5 goal scorers and will continue to be one for the next 5 years, no questions asked


if you want to bank on potential, darcy is your gm


if you want to win a cup, you need a lot more then potential



we have no clue as of now if eichel will be a first line player on a cup winning team, same for reinhart


we have no clue if risto will be a top line d man on a cup winning team


what I do know is the 2006--07 ducks team had perry getz on second line, in their second season and they won the cup

This is a good post
- bobmack13

darcy regier agrees

darcy regier agrees
- homiedclown

I used a $77 Million cap, which is up. People going off the books will not affect the percentages - whoever is on the books will only have 75% of the cap available for their comp.

And we can't really say Eichel Risto and Reinhart are going to be great when we want them to lead us to the playoffs and cup, but that they aren't going to be great when we're budgeting for their salary caps.

My point is this - I think Stamkos can get us a cup. I don't think Stamkos can be part of a dynasty. (I don't mind a cup first.)
- Der Kaiser

I will worry about 2019 in 2 years plus


life is too short and I want a f@cking cup

I will worry about 2019 in 2 years plus


life is too short and I want a f@cking cup
- homiedclown

Last five words in both our posts = common ground

Last five words in both our posts = common ground
- Der Kaiser

agreed

Want Stamkos

1. Go for Stamkos
2. Have back up plan

stamkos is one of the top 5 goal scorers and will continue to be one for the next 5 years, no questions asked


if you want to bank on potential, darcy is your gm


if you want to win a cup, you need a lot more then potential



we have no clue as of now if eichel will be a first line player on a cup winning team, same for reinhart


we have no clue if risto will be a top line d man on a cup winning team


what I do know is the 2006--07 ducks team had perry getz on second line, in their second season and they won the cup
- homiedclown

Do we need Stamkos, or can ROR be our Andy MacDonald?

Do we need Stamkos, or can ROR be our Andy MacDonald?
- Der Kaiser

selanne popped in 48 goals that year, insert stamkos for him, ror for mcdonald

Fair. That being said his defense left a bit to be desired for a true number 1. I liked Myers and honestly if we had him now we'd look pretty good. I'm still okay with the trade, too.
- Zschalberg

The funny thing is, what Myers got run out of town for is what Risto struggled with this year, bad possession numbers and having bad stretches.

I do think Risto is more of an all around prototypical top pairing D man though. Myers is a better 2-3 guy

darcy regier agrees
- homiedclown

It's not about being a "Darcy", it's about being great for a long period of time, and we can't do that in the future being handcuffed by Stamkos. Take a look at St.Louis, they locked up Tarasenko long term for 7.5. I'm not saying that we're going to get Tarasenko, but we can get a high end difference maker for a lot cheaper. Signing Stamkos doesn't buy us a cup.

Do we need Stamkos, or can ROR be our Andy MacDonald?
- Der Kaiser

I need a drink....

Do we need Stamkos, or can ROR be our Andy MacDonald?
- Der Kaiser

I used to love MacDonald. Very under the radar player for a while

It's not about being a "Darcy", it's about being great for a long period of time, and we can't do that in the future being handcuffed by Stamkos. Take a look at St.Louis, they locked up Tarasenko long term for 7.5. I'm not saying that we're going to get Tarasenko, but we can get a high end difference maker for a lot cheaper. Signing Stamkos doesn't buy us a cup.
- bobmack13

45 years plus w/o stamkos has not gotten us a cup either


ice the best team possible and worry about the cap later

I used to love MacDonald. Very under the radar player for a while
- sbroads24

this


an ape and myself wanted him for years when the attempt was to retool on the fly

what do you think he's looking for? $6M+ on a five-year deal?
- Michael Pachla

doesn't matter I would stay away from him all together, we don't need him.