The funny thing is, what Myers got run out of town for is what Risto struggled with this year, bad possession numbers and having bad stretches.

I do think Risto is more of an all around prototypical top pairing D man though. Myers is a better 2-3 guy
- sbroads24

the problem with these big contracts for kids, your paying them based on improvement


if they don't take the next 2 steps, you have a higher cap then you want on a lower slot, and still have that upper end need

risto at 7 per, scares me right now

doesn't matter I would stay away from him all together, we don't need him.
- SABRES 89

seems we don't need stamkos either

the problem with these big contracts for kids, your paying them based on improvement


if they don't take the next 2 steps, you have a higher cap then you want on a lower slot, and still have that upper end need

risto at 7 per, scares me right now
- homiedclown

I think the max he gets is 5.5 based on Reilly and Maatta deals

I think the max he gets is 5.5 based on Reilly and Maatta deals
- sbroads24

I am fine with that. lock him up and move franson or gorges at the draft

I am fine with that. lock him up and move franson or gorges at the draft
- homiedclown

Or both. Sign Yandle.

I honestly think it's going to be hard to trade for a good young d man

Or both. Sign Yandle.

I honestly think it's going to be hard to trade for a good young d man
- sbroads24

I doubt we can expect better than yandle and fowler

they will have to trade for 1

ennis, girgens, pysyk, draft picks and many prospects will be in play IMO

Want Stamkos

1. Go for Stamkos
2. Have back up plan
- Havic3814

1. Collect underpants
2. ????
3. Profit

# Flawless

1. Collect underpants
2. ????
3. Profit

# Flawless
- sskkoo1

It's not about being a "Darcy", it's about being great for a long period of time, and we can't do that in the future being handcuffed by Stamkos. Take a look at St.Louis, they locked up Tarasenko long term for 7.5. I'm not saying that we're going to get Tarasenko, but we can get a high end difference maker for a lot cheaper. Signing Stamkos doesn't buy us a cup.
- bobmack13

I would advise anyone who has questions about the future impact of Stamkos on our ability to maintain a contending team in the future to do the analysis themselves...
Go to Generalfanager.com and copy the Sabres contracts into Excel (or someother spreadsheet) and play with the numbers
- their database includes when the contract expires...so, you can add in your assumptions on a new contract for said player...and add new players for that matter as well (draft picks, trades, UFA's)

When I did this about a month ago, it convinced me that we would be ok with Stamkos at $11M per for 7 years. I think the biggest issue was I had to assume that E. Kane was not resigned when his contract expired...but I felt comfortable that we could replace him with existing prospects and new draft picks.

Morale of the sotry -I turned into an advocate of pursuing Stamkos!

I would advise anyone who has questions about the future impact of Stamkos on our ability to maintain a contending team in the future to do the analysis themselves...
Go to Generalfanager.com and copy the Sabres contracts into Excel (or someother spreadsheet) and play with the numbers
- their database includes when the contract expires...so, you can add in your assumptions on a new contract for said player...and add new players for that matter as well (draft picks, trades, UFA's)

When I did this about a month ago, it convinced me that we would be ok with Stamkos at $11M per for 7 years. I think the biggest issue was I had to assume that E. Kane was not resigned when his contract expired...but I felt comfortable that we could replace him with existing prospects and new draft picks.

Morale of the sotry -I turned into an advocate of pursuing Stamkos!
- IonSabres

If you draft well, Stamkos won't hurt you. If you have to rely on paying UFA's to fill out your roster year after year, you're in trouble

Radulov

If you draft well, Stamkos won't hurt you. If you have to rely on paying UFA's to fill out your roster year after year, you're in trouble
- sbroads24

this IMO is why the hawks are struggling lately

bottom half of roster is blah

last few drafts not so good

and they over paid for goalie position

food
- DDM-Coga

fixed

one other thing to think of

if you get stamkos, big if
you get at least 1 top 4 d man this off season


what are your deadline needs going to be when you contend?

assuming no major injuries, bottom tier players that will allow you to keep your better draft picks


something else the hawks had to move in recent years

one other thing to think of

if you get stamkos, big if
you get at least 1 top 4 d man this off season


what are your deadline needs going to be when you contend?

assuming no major injuries, bottom tier players that will allow you to keep your better draft picks


something else the hawks had to move in recent years
- homiedclown

I think this is why we have to keep these picks over the next two seasons. If we can get a few more younger, top 9 or bottom 6 guys even, we will have those replacements coming up the ranks on time.

fixed
- homiedclown

Im ok with this

I think this is why we have to keep these picks over the next two seasons. If we can get a few more younger, top 9 or bottom 6 guys even, we will have those replacements coming up the ranks on time.
- RhinoFan

We already have a pipeline
http://www.sabresprospect...-april-2016-prospect.html


We can use the picks - or the pipeline - as currency if they will buy us proven young studs.

Radulov
- DDM-Coga

KHL bound in a year or T..............DAMN!

one other thing to think of

if you get stamkos, big if
you get at least 1 top 4 d man this off season


what are your deadline needs going to be when you contend?

assuming no major injuries, bottom tier players that will allow you to keep your better draft picks


something else the hawks had to move in recent years
- homiedclown

Picking in the high 20's for a bunch of years also kills your prospect pool. All the more reason to hit on the picks you make.

Or both. Sign Yandle.

I honestly think it's going to be hard to trade for a good young d man
- sbroads24

Please no

seems we don't need stamkos either
- homiedclown

Sinks, Bum

Sinks, Bum
- SABRES 89

Floats.

Floats.
- Der Kaiser

Won't be the same player

Floats.
- Der Kaiser

start at 6 minute mark

Won't be the same player
- SABRES 89

Does a lot of charity Work.