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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:29 PM ET
Hopefully Subban, like Drouin, will leave his feelings in the AHL
I really hope I'm wrong about Subban, right now I see Weber (not the good one, the one we already had and hopefully no longer will have).

- neem55


Agree on Subban. I don't think he does jack in the NHL that's why I always found people crying about his feelings hilarious
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 7:32 PM ET
Canuck D-men picked by year, round and games played.

2006
3rd Daniel Rahimi 0 games

2007
2nd Taylor Ellington 0 games

2008
2nd Yann Sauve 8 games

2009
3rd Kevin Connauton 163 games
4th Jeremy Price 0 games
5th Peter Andersson 0 games

2010
4th Patrick McNally 0 games
5th Adam Polasek 0 games
7th Sawyer Hannay 0 games

2011
5th Frankie Corrado 67 games
7th Henrik Tommernes 0 games

2012
5th Ben Hutton 75 games

2013
4th Jordan Subban 0 games
5th Anton Cederholm 0 games
6th Mike Williamson 0 games
7th Miles Liberati 0 games

That is piss poor
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:33 PM ET
He was a rookie playing 20 minutes a game! Hard to please eh k
- CanuckDon


Ya, I look at Parayko, The two guys on Carolina, Ghost, van rymsdyk... the list goes on. Young guys playing lots of minutes, playing good d or at least considerably better than Hutton. I think he has top-4 potential, but defensively he's got a loooong way to go and I'm skeptical. When he got bumped up in ice when Edler got injured it really stuck out to me that he is a liability in our end.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
Canuck D-men picked by year, round and games played.

2006
3rd Daniel Rahimi 0 games played

2007
2nd Taylor Ellington 0 games played

2008
2nd Yann Sauve 8 games

2009
3rd Kevin Connauton 163 games
4th Jeremy Price 0 games
5th Peter Andersson 0 games

2010
4th Patrick McNally 0 games
5th Adam Polasek 0 games
7th Sawyer Hannay 0 games

2011
5th Frankie Corrado 67 games
7th Henrik Tommernes 0 games

2012
5th Ben Hutton 75 games

2013
4th Jordan Subban 0 games
5th Anton Cederholm 0 games
6th Mike Williamson 0 games
7th Miles Liberati 0 games

That is piss poor

- A_SteamingLombardi


Pathetic
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:35 PM ET
Ya, I look at Parayko, The two guys on Carolina, Ghost, van rymsdyk... the list goes on. Young guys playing lots of minutes, playing good d or at least considerably better than Hutton. I think he has top-4 potential, but defensively he's got a loooong way to go and I'm skeptical. When he got bumped up in ice when Edler got injured it really stuck out to me that he is a liability in our end.
- neem55


He was used to the college schedule the long season def. took its toll on him. I'd be surprised if he isn't top 4 personally
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:36 PM ET
Canuck D-men picked by year, round and games played.

2006
3rd Daniel Rahimi 0 games played

2007
2nd Taylor Ellington 0 games played

2008
2nd Yann Sauve 8 games

2009
3rd Kevin Connauton 163 games
4th Jeremy Price 0 games
5th Peter Andersson 0 games

2010
4th Patrick McNally 0 games
5th Adam Polasek 0 games
7th Sawyer Hannay 0 games

2011
5th Frankie Corrado 67 games
7th Henrik Tommernes 0 games

2012
5th Ben Hutton 75 games

2013
4th Jordan Subban 0 games
5th Anton Cederholm 0 games
6th Mike Williamson 0 games
7th Miles Liberati 0 games

That is piss poor

- A_SteamingLombardi

Yup. Continuing to pick them int the 4th-7th round and expecting it to pan out... what do they call it when you keep doing the same stupid thing and expect different results?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 7:36 PM ET
Yup. Continuing to pick them int the 4th-7th round and expecting it to pan out... what do they call it when you keep doing the same stupid thing and expect different results?
- neem55

Gillis?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:37 PM ET
Ya, I look at Parayko, The two guys on Carolina, Ghost, van rymsdyk... the list goes on. Young guys playing lots of minutes, playing good d or at least considerably better than Hutton. I think he has top-4 potential, but defensively he's got a loooong way to go and I'm skeptical. When he got bumped up in ice when Edler got injured it really stuck out to me that he is a liability in our end.
- neem55


Also, for the record, I want them to take the best D man at 6th
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:37 PM ET
He was used to the college schedule the long season def. took its toll on him. I'd be surprised if he isn't top 4 personally
- CanuckDon


that is true, I've give you that. 82 games is a big schedule/adjustment. I hope you're right, I see big defensive gaps but he's good with the puck on his stick that's for sure.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:37 PM ET
Gillis?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Also called a Nonis
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 23 @ 7:38 PM ET
Canuck D-men picked by year, round and games played.

2006
3rd Daniel Rahimi 0 games

2007
2nd Taylor Ellington 0 games

2008
2nd Yann Sauve 8 games

2009
3rd Kevin Connauton 163 games
4th Jeremy Price 0 games
5th Peter Andersson 0 games

2010
4th Patrick McNally 0 games
5th Adam Polasek 0 games
7th Sawyer Hannay 0 games

2011
5th Frankie Corrado 67 games
7th Henrik Tommernes 0 games

2012
5th Ben Hutton 75 games

2013
4th Jordan Subban 0 games
5th Anton Cederholm 0 games
6th Mike Williamson 0 games
7th Miles Liberati 0 games

That is piss poor

- A_SteamingLombardi


What's even sadder is not one of Connautons 163 games were for the Canucks
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:38 PM ET
that is true, I've give you that. 82 games is a big schedule/adjustment. I hope you're right, I see big defensive gaps but he's good with the puck on his stick that's for sure.
- neem55


It's his shot generation and possession in college which was truly incredible. He shown some of that ability in his first season. I'm impressed
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:41 PM ET
Gillis?
- A_SteamingLombardi


JB will pick d early I hope, but he hasn't yet in two years either. Brisbois and tree were a good start as 3rd rounders, time to pick d in the top 2 rounds for a few years here. Not exclusively mind you, I just think its well past time to start picking one regularly in one of those rounds.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:42 PM ET
It's his shot generation and possession in college which was truly incredible. He shown some of that ability in his first season. I'm impressed
- CanuckDon


right. But I don't put Karllson in my top-5 for this same reason. The position is called defenseman not rear wing
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
JB will pick d early I hope, but he hasn't yet in two years either. Brisbois and tree were a good start as 3rd rounders, time to pick d in the top 2 rounds for a few years here. Not exclusively mind you, I just think its well past time to start picking one regularly in one of those rounds.
- neem55


First draft he took Demko. Great pick. Then used his 3rd on Tree. Last year he didn't have a second and used a high 3rd on Brisbouis. It's a priority, he knows Gillis left a hole on D
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 7:46 PM ET
What's even sadder is not one of Connautons 163 games were for the Canucks
- VANTEL

From my calculation we got 111 games from 16 d-men we drafted over 8 years
75 from Hutton
28 from Corrado
8 from Sauve
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
Anybody watching the Nashville game? Weber, Ellis, Josi, Ekholm are unreal. All have something in common too

edit: Ekholm was picked later than 1st or 2nd round actually. two first rounders, a second and a 4th.

- neem55


I'm watching it. They are losing and gave up the lead in the series.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
First draft he took Demko. Great pick. Then used his 3rd on Tree. Last year he didn't have a second and used a high 3rd on Brisbouis. It's a priority, he knows Gillis left a hole on D
- CanuckDon


That's true, I'd imagine Demko was BPA for JB and he couldn't pass it up(was a great call). You're right he knows it's a priority, but again I'm ready to see it now.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
How many of them were picked top 10?
- CanuckDon



neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:51 PM ET
I'm watching it. They are losing and gave up the lead in the series.

- boonerbuck


the series is 2-2, Anahiem is very good (before the season the odds on favorite to win the cup). the game is 2-1 and very close, let's not paint a false picture here.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 7:52 PM ET
That's true, I'd imagine Demko was BPA for JB and he couldn't pass it up(was a great call). You're right he knows it's a priority, but again I'm ready to see it now.
- neem55

I think he was filling a hole, Canucks have very weak goalie depth.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 7:54 PM ET
I think he was filing a hole, Canucks have very weak goalie depth.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Ya maybe, I see Markstrom as being pretty dam good. Backups aren't too hard to come by. Again, I don't disagree with the Demko pick he's looking unreal and I hope he dominates the AHL.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
Ya maybe, I see Markstrom as being pretty dam good. Backups aren't too hard to come by. Again, I don't disagree with the Demko pick he's looking unreal and I hope he dominates the AHL.
- neem55

We'll see what Cloutier does to him
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 23 @ 7:56 PM ET
Awful. Similar to Patrick White, Shink, Gaunce, CoHo... need I go on? I mean we've seen so many busts at forward, I'm a little shocked you guys don't want to see more d picks. I think either way JB is the guy to do it, but how many times do we have to see it?
- neem55


The really bad first rounders picked by Gillis and Nonis have nothing to do with the first rounders JB is picking.

I understand you are sick of seeing forwards picked in the first but it is not a sound scouting policy.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 23 @ 8:00 PM ET
Burrows is a hair puller but Shaw is a homophobic hair puller.
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