Everyone here is talking about how acquiring Stamkos is impossible with the cap but no one is actually doing the math

Stamkos at 11.5M AAV can be fit snugly under the cap assuming a Girardi buyout and the game rising to 74M.
- rangerdanger94

And what about Miller(due for a raise, Kreider and Hayes needing to be mtched under current condiotns on the CBA.

The Rangers are going to overpay for one of Milan Lucic, Andrew Shaw or David Backes.
- tomburton99

Probably...and none of them will have any success. Lucic isn't going to score any more than Kreider but will cost 2-3x as much. Shaw and Backes won't have linemates with enough skill to work the zone and create chances for them.

And what about Miller(due for a raise, Kreider and Hayes needing to be mtched under current condiotns on the CBA.
- tomburton99

I did the math giving them all realistic raises. It's very, very possible.

I'll try and post the lineup with the cap hits when I get home

Everyone here is talking about how acquiring Stamkos is impossible with the cap but no one is actually doing the math

Stamkos at 11.5M AAV can be fit snugly under the cap assuming a Girardi buyout and the cap rising to 74M.
- rangerdanger94

Surely he will be on a deal longer than 1 year though

Surely he will be on a deal longer than 1 year though
- YuenglingJagr

I would assume yes

And I'm the crazy one for wanting this thing to get blown up? Does the world you live in without a salary cap, have gold plated poopers and rose pedals falling at your feet?
- tomburton99

I just want this team to have an identity. I don't care what it is. Speed. Grit. Whatever.

This speed team without speed, dump and chase without a solid forecheck, rely on Hank without any consistent D made this season painful to watch.

Year before last someone said going into the deadline: "Forget grit. We are a speed team. Let's double down on it and be good at that." I don't remember who said it but they were right.

I just want this team to have an identity. I don't care what it is. Speed. Grit. Whatever.

This speed team without speed, dump and chase without a solid forecheck, rely on Hank without any consistent D made this season painful to watch.

Year before last someone said going into the deadline: "Forget grit. We are a speed team. Let's double down on it and be good at that." I don't remember who said it but they were right.
- Maskdman3

but they couldnt keep Hagelin with the cap

I just want this team to have an identity. I don't care what it is. Speed. Grit. Whatever.

This speed team without speed, dump and chase without a solid forecheck, rely on Hank without any consistent D made this season painful to watch.

Year before last someone said going into the deadline: "Forget grit. We are a speed team. Let's double down on it and be good at that." I don't remember who said it but they were right.
- Maskdman3

I think most people here would agree that Hagelin's current contract is an overpayment for what he brings and that he doesn't really fit with how the rest of the contracts on our books are structured, but in hindsight I think his loss has a much bigger impact on our identity than originally thought.

He wasn't the biggest point producer by any means but he really pushed the pace and set the benchmark for how fast everyone on our team needed to be playing.

I did the math giving them all realistic raises. It's very, very possible.

I'll try and post the lineup with the cap hits when I get home
- rangerdanger94

I'll do it now. Tell me what the cap hits are for Miller, Mcilrath, Kreider, Hayes an other RD and a 7th D?

I'll do it now. Tell me what the cap hits are for Miller, Mcilrath, Kreider, Hayes an other RD and a 7th D?
- tomburton99

Miller: 3.025 million
Kreider: 4 million
McIlrath: 1 million
Hayes: 1.325 million

I'll do it now. Tell me what the cap hits are for Miller, Mcilrath, Kreider, Hayes an other RD and a 7th D?
- tomburton99

I'll need to have their current hits to tell you exact numbers but what I kind of remember doing was McIlrath, Hayes, and Kreider get 10% raises. Miller gets a bridge deal between what Hagelin and Kreider got as his numbers were better than Hagelins but not as good as Kreider's so I think $2.4M. 7th D I added in on veterans minimum and same for 13th F. Glass in the minors.

Miller: 3.025 million
Kreider: 4 million
McIlrath: 1 million
Hayes: 1.325 million
- jimbro83

Ok done.

Miller: 3.025 million
Kreider: 4 million
McIlrath: 1 million
Hayes: 1.325 million
- jimbro83

Way too much for Miller.

I think I'm underestimating Kreider's raise tho in my previous post. Maybe 3.1M or so for him.

Don't forget that Gorton got Stepan signed for around 3M per year after 44 points in 48 games.

I just want this team to have an identity. I don't care what it is. Speed. Grit. Whatever.

This speed team without speed, dump and chase without a solid forecheck, rely on Hank without any consistent D made this season painful to watch.

Year before last someone said going into the deadline: "Forget grit. We are a speed team. Let's double down on it and be good at that." I don't remember who said it but they were right.
- Maskdman3

I agree 100%. Once they dealt Hagelin away, the fastest player on the team, the speed identity went out the window.

The Rangers would have 1.95 million to fill 3 roster spots in RangerDangers roster. 3rd line LW, 4th line RW and 7th D all empty. So it's pretty much impossible.

The Rangers would have 1.95 million to fill 3 roster spots in RangerDangers roster. 3rd line LW, 4th RW and 7th D all empty. So it's pretty much impossible.
- tomburton99

The Rangers would have 1.95 million to fill 3 roster spots in RangerDangers roster. 3rd line LW, 4th line RW and 7th D all empty. So it's pretty much impossible.
- tomburton99

they need to go into next season with 1.95 mil in cap space

this year showed they can't be capped out, they need $$$ to make callups when there are injuries

they need to go into next season with 1.95 mil in cap space

this year showed they can't be capped out, they need $$$ to make callups when there are injuries
- jimbro83

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/96474

So it's a little bit more of a tighter squeeze than I remember it being. But the max the cap can be is actually $74.5M and the one I did there is at $74M, so that could free up another 500k. And then 100k here and there could shave off a 400-800k more if you skimp each deal a bit more and maybe Stammer signs for 11M instead of 11.5M.

Anyway, it's possible.

The Rangers have enough Soft players. We dont need twins who use their faces as punching bags when times get tough. I mean for chrissakes, defend yourself!!!



- MiloslavHorava

Rocky was similar. Let his opponent beat his head in until they had nothing left in the tank

Rocky was similar. Let his opponent beat his head in until they had nothing left in the tank
- Anthony5967

Except the Bruins won and the Canucks have yet to recover......

Kreider is a RFA. I don't see him getting more than Stepan or any other recent Ranger bridge contract.

Frankly, I think he has maxed out his potential and isn't worth a penny over $3M. Hagelin's UFA $4M deal is an overpayment and he provides a lot more than Kreider away from the puck while Kreider doesn't exactly provide a ton more with it.

Kreider is a RFA. I don't see him getting more than Stepan or any other recent Ranger bridge contract.

Frankly, I think he has maxed out his potential and isn't worth a penny over $3M. Hagelin's UFA $4M deal is an overpayment and he provides a lot more than Kreider away from the puck while Kreider doesn't exactly provide a ton more with it.
- Maskdman3

Agreed, you should trade him to us for Stephen Gionta so you can maximize your cap savings.

Agreed, you should trade him to us for Stephen Gionta so you can maximize your cap savings.
- smellmyfinger

No thanks. A bag of pucks will be more useful and saves an extra $800k in cap space.

No thanks. A bag of pucks will be more useful and saves an extra $800k in cap space.
- Maskdman3

The offer is out there if you change your mind

Czikas should be gone, that poop was dirty as (frank)