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mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
He will be the number 2 or 3 in two years when Hank is gone. This kid is going to be very good and you don't take the chance of letting him drop.

Bo and Sutter will handle top line duties until some one steps in . I think in his final year he will put up Dubois /Tkachuk like numbers

- VANTEL

He will be really good plus hes big. He has put up good numbers this year and looks like he is trending up for sure.

If we pick at 5 we are getting a great player if we trade down to 10 we will get another great player.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
Not at 5 but if we can move down then absolutely
- mauryballstein

Buttons has him at number 5 and I seen on Twitter earlier today he is still climbing.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Is Dubois good?
Figure oilers take a dman or Tkachuk gets taken in that pick. So should we be happy with Dubois?

- Scooby_Doo

They will take tkachuk id assume or trade down and take a dman.

Some have compared dubois to jamie benn. Thats who I am hoping for at 5.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Is Dubois good?
Figure oilers take a dman or Tkachuk gets taken in that pick. So should we be happy with Dubois?

- Scooby_Doo


From what i read he has all the skills. Logan Brown looks good as well. I like Dubois.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 12:22 PM ET
Buttons has him at number 5 and I seen on Twitter earlier today he is still climbing.
- VANTEL


That's cause for concern.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:22 PM ET
Why not ? Just cus your not picked 1st doesnt mean you cant be a number 1. He could bust out but he could be the best player in the draft who knows. Bo was taken then and if he was put in a position to generate offense instead of being a shut down center all year would look much better.

At the end of the day we need to get bigger and get top end talent at both forward and defense. I just don't think a dman at 5 is worth it but if we can land dubois I walk away happy and have him playing center.

- mauryballstein

"size" isn't the issue with our forwards its toughness. Probably have the two weakest stars in the league in the sedins.

I would agree and be happy with dubios. I just think the hype like every other year for guys with size is getting a little old. Don't have to be 6'6" to be an nhl and how many forwards are that size that are good? Defence sure.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:23 PM ET
He will be really good plus hes big. He has put up good numbers this year and looks like he is trending up for sure.

If we pick at 5 we are getting a great player if we trade down to 10 we will get another great player.

- mauryballstein


I wish you guys would give your head a-shake. This talk of trading down is foolish. Brown won't be there at 10. You will be standing there holding your johnsons after you select the second coming of Ben Hutton.

Take Dubois Tkachuk or Brown . Forget this damn foolishness of trading down.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
That's cause for concern.
- VanHockeyGuy

Buttons jumped on my bandwagon
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
They will take tkachuk id assume or trade down and take a dman.

Some have compared dubois to jamie benn. Thats who I am hoping for at 5.

- mauryballstein


I like Jamie benn.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
How do you figure? The team just isnt good. So if you say that about the leafs or the oilers are you depressing too? I don't get that comment at all
- mauryballstein

No team has ever been good for centuries but looking at the good things is a lot better then always talking about the bad. Good crop of players coming and no idea how its going to go from season to season. 2 years ago no one would have guessed Van would in the playoffs after Torts season.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
I wish you guys would give your head a-shake. This talk of trading down is foolish. Brown won't be there at 10. You will be standing there holding your johnsons after you select the second coming of Ben Hutton.

Take Dubois Tkachuk or Brown . Forget this damn foolishness of trading down.

- VANTEL


Trading down to 7 and getting 20th pick makes a tonne of sense.

Draft brown or Dubois at 7. Take bean or Mcavoy at 20.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
I wish you guys would give your head a-shake. This talk of trading down is foolish. Brown won't be there at 10. You will be standing there holding your johnsons after you select the second coming of Ben Hutton.

Take Dubois Tkachuk or Brown . Forget this damn foolishness of trading down.

- VANTEL

look at picking up another 2nd rounder take 2 D men there. Lots of quality there still.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
look at picking up another 2nd rounder take 2 D men there. Lots of quality there still.
- manvanfan

exactly if its an option im all for it
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
Trading down to 7 and getting 20th pick makes a tonne of sense.

Draft brown or Dubois at 7. Take bean or Mcavoy at 20.

- Scooby_Doo


I don't see a new GM of a rebuilding team giving up a second first round pick to move up 2 spots that is not in the top 3
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
Buttons has him at number 5 and I seen on Twitter earlier today he is still climbing.
- VANTEL

button also had Van taking Carlo at 23 last season. He went 37th. haha
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
look at picking up another 2nd rounder take 2 D men there. Lots of quality there still.
- manvanfan

There is not a lot of quality in the second round unless you consider Tyler Benson high quality.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
I wish you guys would give your head a-shake. This talk of trading down is foolish. Brown won't be there at 10. You will be standing there holding your johnsons after you select the second coming of Ben Hutton.

Take Dubois Tkachuk or Brown . Forget this damn foolishness of trading down.

- VANTEL

Why trading down is an option. We are all here just talking what ifs. There is 10 players who I want in this draft so one of them has to be there at 10 unless of course they get abducted by aliens
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
exactly if its an option I'm all for it
- mauryballstein

What about Burrows to NJ for 4 4th round picks hahaha.



I'm sorry.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
button also had Van taking Carlo at 23 last season. He went 37th. haha
- manvanfan

Carlo looked like a stud at this years prospect game.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
I don't see a new GM of a rebuilding team giving up a second first round pick to move up 2 spots that is not in the top 3
- VANTEL


They aren't rebuilding.
We could throw in Jensen or Shinkaruk to soften the blow.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
What about Burrows to NJ for 4 4th round picks hahaha.



I'm sorry.

- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
There is not a lot of quality in the second round unless you consider Tyler Benson high quality.
- VANTEL

I don't see him being taken 2nd round. late first.
Lucas Johansen, Kale Clague, Sam Steel, Libor Hajek, Jordan Kyrou, Nathan Bastian, Cam Dineen, Dillion Dube, Maxime Lajoie, Noah Gregor, Markus Niemelainen.

All players id be super happy with if we could get in the second round. I don't think they will turn out to be superstars but hope 3-4 D or top 9 forwards.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 12:38 PM ET

- mauryballstein

okay i'd accept 2 of them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Why trading down is an option. We are all here just talking what ifs. There is 10 players who I want in this draft so one of them has to be there at 10 unless of course they get abducted by aliens
- mauryballstein

Burkie put it best yesterday. There are cliffs. The top 2-3 players are on a cliff by themself. There is a significant drop off after that cliff. Then the next 3-4 players are on the next cliff and after that another significant drop off.

The words that stand out are significant drop off. We have enough prospects and young player. Take the BPA

Take the quality not the quantity. We can't fix everything in one year.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
Is Dubois good?
Figure oilers take a dman or Tkachuk gets taken in that pick. So should we be happy with Dubois?

- Scooby_Doo

He is the next best center in my mind. So yeah I would be quite happy with that.
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