Just to reply to everyone:

I see what you all mean in that it doesn't make much sense for the Leafs and it's definitely a fair point. I'd probably feel the same way if I were in your shoes.

Just thought I'd try and bring and interesting angle into the draft win.

Well you need a goalie...what would you toss back to us for Rask?

Or would you wait to acquire/draft that as well? Still a young goalie.
- RickJames77

A milk crate and a temper tantrum

You would be trading Marners best years for Bergerons worst years though.
- smellmyfinger

yeah, see above. Totally get it.

To be honest, I forget how "old" he is sometimes

First player I remember watching as an 18 yo in the NHL. (frank) I'm getting old

You would be trading Marners best years for Bergerons worst years though.
- smellmyfinger

I'd absolutely take Bergeron for Marner.

But I'm a big Berge fan, and I like the sure thing as opposed to the risk.

A milk crate and a temper tantrum
- burn

Ok, ok, I guess I'll stop

Well, enjoy the night, you all deserve it

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose.

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.

Ok, ok, I guess I'll stop

Well, enjoy the night, you all deserve it
- RickJames77

No need to leave. You're one of the more reasonable non-leaf fans that frequents our threads...

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

Were you going to make a point?

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

Kindly,

Go (frank) yourself

Matthews looked sooooo unhappy. He's totally not gonna report and ask for a trade ......
- HB77

well-played

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

No need to leave. You're one of the more reasonable non-leaf fans that frequents our threads...
- --Lamp--

We are all Leafs fans now...

Ok, ok, I guess I'll stop

Well, enjoy the night, you all deserve it
- RickJames77

Boston always kills us in trades (minus the kaberle trade) so i want nothing to do with trading with the bruins hahaha

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out what WPG or CLB would take. JVR + TOR 1st 2017 + TOR 2nd 2017? Now that's probably a pretty tempting package for someone... our 1st next year is (I'm totally guessing) an 8th or 9th overall probably, and our 2nd would be pretty impressive at that position too.

I'm not even sure I'd do this... that would be an expensive price.

As someone else mentioned earlier, we probably use JVR to snag a good defenseman instead, maybe thru draft.
- --Lamp--

I have a feeling that they stay put. We don't want to give up our 1st next year and end up with another Seguin situation.

No need to leave. You're one of the more reasonable non-leaf fans that frequents our threads...
- --Lamp--

Thanks, appreciate it

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

Tanking and rebuilding are the same thing. You use the word "rebuild" when you like the team you're talking about, and "tank" when you don't like them.

We've tried the retool-on-the-fly thing for a long time now. How would you have approached the hand that Shanahan had?

Note: I'd say this about any team who "tanked" or "rebuilt" or whatever you want to call it. Buffalo last year did same; I've never had any problem with what they did. They needed to remake their team, and they needed good picks to do it.

Quit whining.

Thanks, appreciate it
- RickJames77

but you can leave and let the door hit you on the way out if you wanted to

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose.

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

Oh (frank) off dude. Were you saying this when other teams tanked and won the lotto? (frank)ing losers just can't accept Toronto Maple Leafs becoming relevant again

but you can leave and let the door hit you on the way out if you wanted to
- twiztedmike

Is the door sexy?

Does anyone think that drafting Mathews changes the possibility of stamkos signing with the leafs in the off season?
- elpidio1975

Yeah cause nobody needs a Stamkos Mathews 1 2 punch.

Yeah cause nobody needs a Stamkos Mathews 1 2 punch.
- the_eye

Stamkos demoted to Matthews wing.

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose.

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

All I remember is our fans complaining we didn't tank properly last year, and for the last several years. Why do you think we complain about long gone fringe players like Deveraux.

Oh (frank) off dude. Were you saying this when other teams tanked and won the lotto? (frank)ing losers just can't accept Toronto Maple Leafs becoming relevant again
- TML4Life85

You better hope Dozzer doesn't see this.

If so, enjoy your 3 month ban...
- RonPielep

JVR - Matthews - Marner

So in a year where the nhl overreacts and attempts to discourage tanking by changing the lottery, the team with the least intent on winning games, wins the lottery as well creating the potential for a large negative impact on teams that werent trying to lose.

A lottery win in the same city that repeatedly condemned tanking a year ago, while lauding their team for committing the same act the very next season.


- atmarising

Not sure what your point is? Are you surprised that the team with the best odds to win the lotto actually won the lotto? Are you surprised that a GM who knew his team had no shot this year traded for any assets he could get that would help in the future? Or are you surprised that fans are happy that their team gets the first pick?