i guess im not surprised leafs fans already want to trade their shiny new #1 center considering how many people wanted sundin gone when he was in his prime.

this is why we cant have nice things.

Removing phaneuf and Kessel while also getting some good prospects in return

Signing Babcock

Trading clarkson

Winning the lottery

Who would of thought?

Stamkos anyone?
- Santo_44

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.

3 picks in the top 31

5 in the top 60 if I'm not mistaken
- Santo_44

sort of. It's top 61.
1st overall
25th-30th(Pit)
31s(Tor)
60(WSH)
61(TOR)

and then I think we have mid 3rd rounder, maybe SJ around 75ish.

I'm thinking what if Zaitsev is as good as advertised and perhaps better? He could become the next Klingberg if he pans out. That puts him in #2 talk and clears things up on the back end a little.

Rielly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Corrado
Hunwick - Carrick
Marincin

Loov, Percy, Valiev waiting in the wings.....

And that's if they don't acquire anyone else. Not bad.....

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.
- gravyface

the leafs will be paying kessel $1.2M for 7 years. pretty ridiculous.

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.
- gravyface

Cap space and do you really think the Leafs win this lotto if they don't unload Kessel? He may have been the factor that has you picking 4th instead of 1st.

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.
- gravyface

yeah but either way, Kessel was a drain on building a culture of winning where 'entitlement' doesn't exist. He doesn't have the heart and needed to be gone.

sort of. It's top 61.
1st overall
25th-30th(Pit)
31s(Tor)
60(WSH)
61(TOR)

and then I think we have mid 3rd rounder, maybe SJ around 75ish.
- Njuice

Devils

http://www.generalfanager...teams/toronto-maple-leafs

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.
- gravyface

you forget about the player we pick with the Pens first this year?

That deals not over

I'm thinking what if Zaitsev is as good as advertised and perhaps better? He could become the next Klingberg if he pans out. That puts him in #2 talk and clears things up on the back end a little.

Rielly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Corrado
Hunwick - Carrick
Marincin

Loov, Percy, Valiev waiting in the wings.....

And that's if they don't acquire anyone else. Not bad.....
- Phenom

I think COrrado is the 7th D of that group. By the season after next we will be looking for a top pairing D.

Rielly - Mystery Man
Gardiner - Zaitsez
Marincin - Carrick
young player

the leafs will be paying kessel $1.2M for 7 years. pretty ridiculous.
- daeth

Been paying Tim Gleason more, no one seems to bat an eyelash about that

Cap space and do you really think the Leafs win this lotto if they don't unload Kessel? He may have been the factor that has you picking 4th instead of 1st.
- smellmyfinger

Still, from a hockey deal perspective, you need to get a return for your star players in their prime that's not what-ifs and just cap space.

My only beef is the return for Kessel and moving Panik for nothing. If Kapanen doesn't pan out, we lost that deal.
- gravyface

Panik?

Jesus H Christ If that's our biggest concern, we are doing alright.

Panik?

Jesus Haha Mary. If that's our biggest concern, we are doing alright.
- walshyleafsfan

He did get 8 points in 30 games with the Hawks

Been paying Tim Gleason more, no one seems to bat an eyelash about that
- pinksocked

because the leafs have been poop and in the middle of a rebuild while paying gleason.

kessel's $1.2M is going to affect the team when they should be good.

because the leafs have been poop and in the middle of a rebuild while paying gleason.

kessel's $1.2M is going to affect the team when they should be good.
- daeth

NO

Where do I buy my Shanahan jersey

Honestly, I think Matthews should start in the AHL next year. Especially if we get Stamkos.
Here's why.
1. Leafs said they want to draft and develop: they made Nylander go through the ahl and so should Matthews. Learn the systems and culture.
2. Bozak, lupul, michalek, holland don't have a place on this team and need to be moved ASAP
3. They need to play their older prospects next year to figure out which ones they're keeping.

Start the year
Jvr - Stamkos - Nylander
Soshnikov - Kadri - Hyman
Leivo - Laich - brown
Greening - ??? - leipsic

Playing these prospects will allow us to see who stays and they're old
Enough that we need to make these decisions now. Too many prospects in the pipe behind them.

NO
- pinksocked

its fact

Still, from a hockey deal perspective, you need to get a return for your star players in their prime that's not what-ifs and just cap space.
- gravyface

D Harrington was injured. He could still pan out.

F Kapenen is very young - some ppl count him as close to ready but he is not. He is even healthy scratch for Marlies sometimes in playoffs but only because the depth is insane. I think him and Lindberg take turn getting into games.

And the 25th-30th pick this year.

We won't know what we have until 3 years but we DEFINITELY got rid of a player with no heart. An entitled player with no heart. The team would not have had the same culture this season with him. Kadri and Rielly would not have signed long-term for significant home town discounts.

It wasn't an ideal trade, but it's okay. F__ Kessel.

Where do I buy my Shanahan jersey
- twiztedmike

touch that up a bit and get it on a t shirt

Honestly, I think Matthews should start in the AHL next year. Especially if we get Stamkos.
Here's why.
1. Leafs said they want to draft and develop: they made Nylander go through the ahl and so should Matthews. Learn the systems and culture.
2. Bozak, lupul, michalek, holland don't have a place on this team and need to be moved ASAP
3. They need to play their older prospects next year to figure out which ones they're keeping.

Start the year
Jvr - Stamkos - Nylander
Soshnikov - Kadri - Hyman
Leivo - Laich - brown
Greening - ??? - leipsic

Playing these prospects will allow us to see who stays and they're old
Enough that we need to make these decisions now. Too many prospects in the pipe behind them.
- ILoveLamp

matthews is probably a 40+ point player next year. he stays

D Harrington was injured. He could still pan out.

F Kapenen is very young - some ppl count him as close to ready but he is not. He is even healthy scratch for Marlies sometimes in playoffs but only because the depth is insane. I think him and Lindberg take turn getting into games.

And the 25th-30th pick this year.

We won't know what we have until 3 years but we DEFINITELY got rid of a player with no heart. An entitled player with no heart. The team would not have had the same culture this season with him. Kadri and Rielly would not have signed long-term for significant home town discounts.

It wasn't an ideal trade, but it's okay. F__ Kessel.
- Njuice

what did we get for Spaling? Him and Polak was like two 2nds, add that in

Spaling counts for 1/4 of a 2nd rounder

because the leafs have been poop and in the middle of a rebuild while paying gleason.

kessel's $1.2M is going to affect the team when they should be good.
- daeth

Or just simply not sign any bad contracts? Then is shouldn't be a bother at all.